Route Wcml: Crewe - Preston - Feedback Thread

So playing scenario locomotive on test. Once you past the 1st neutral zone out of crewe train looses power and nothing you do will bring back on. So done a physics reset that work I was able to move. But checked my train 10 mins after pulling away only to relise I only had one carriage attached to me the rest detached themselves somewhere. Then it just ctd. This on xbox series x. Happened to anyone else. JT Benedict

 

With regard to the reverb, wonder if this is loco specific. Having reinvested in the route yesterday evening and eventually setting off with the second part of 7T75 (Class 20’s) there was mucho reverb at all the structures I passed under eventually heading out on to the main line. Is it something affecting the electrics only?

 

Which 20's were they Vern, TSV railfreights?

 

It seems to vary, Vern, I took a pair of 20s L/E from Crewe back to SP and found that some bridges (like those just south of Hartford) had reverb but others (including the ones just north of it) do not, nor does the mini-tunnel up near Weaver Jn so I don't think it's down to the locos but given how it's some bridges and not others raises questions, I'm thinking perhaps a checkbox or something was missed for those particular assets?

 

BR Blue version I think.

 

I had power issues from Arpley - Bickershaw with the empties, could not get much over 20 mph, then I realised over the sound of the 1st loco on full power I could hear an idle 20 sound, the rear loco was doing nothing, I stopped & checked number 2 loco & the master key was in & reverser in forward, I moved reverser to off & removed master key & set off this time both locos were giving power.

 

That could be something JT need to look at for when taking over trains in service, worked by locos in multiple. In fact, they are not making great progress on the second section of 7T75 up to Warrington so I may stop the train and check that out, when I go back on later. Certainly so far as coming out of Bickershaw, that would mean 1000hp trying to shift 2100 tonnes…

 

Great route when it works (really enjoy the JT series) but lots of blurring and impossible to do anything involving Crewe (including spawning on foot for a walk around) without a CTD. Can see the game struggling even to load UK only DLCs after the last update so rapidly losing confidence I can complete anything on any route. Xbox series X with all DLCs uninstalled except for UK routes/stock, only TSW6 installed and a fresh load each time.

 

Unfortunately this route isn't playable for me (PC).

Attempted to play 5 services, 4 of them CTD, one short Class 101 service worked.
Played MML - no issues, Played CNN - no issues, came back to this route 1 service works, then the following 2 both CTD.

Either the recent DTG "updates" have caused core instability, or the DLC is excessively heavy on assets.

Of concern was hearing that a well known Youtuber "changed their settings to 2K" to record a video...... that for me makes me think this DLC has tipped the edge of how much the game can handle.

 

You are correct that it is very hard to get into Crewe on XSX without CTD, no matter if spawning on foot or loading in a service. I have found that there are a few more reliable ways to do it:

1. Spawn into Crewe at a time when there isn't a lot of activity. When I was looking for some collectibles I found that 0700 or earlier seemed to work okay.
2. At other times, try spawning into Crewe E.M.D. first, and then fast travel to Crewe, or even just walk. There seems to be less of a chance of CTD when doing this.
3. Both of these have worked for me in 4K. However, they didn't help when I tried to spawn into Journey service 1P16, starting at Crewe. I got a crash every single time. I was able to load the service by switching to HD first, as suggested by candacedtg. You can always switch back to 4K once your drive away from Crewe.

This with all layers installed except PFT and CL5. Using workarounds I haven't encountered anything on XSX that is truly impossible. Hopefully this will be helpful until a fix arrives. Good luck!

 

Thanks! That’s really useful and I’ll try those. Really demoralising position especially for those of us who’ve enjoyed this game since the days of TSW 2020!

 

CTD on anything Crewe related. Seriously considering a refund and going for Trent Valley. Xbox series X

 

Trent valley is just as bad in the crewe area

 

AWS for signal PN89, first one south of Preston on the Up Main, seems to be dead. Approached the signal showing Green and got no response from the AWS at all.

 

Could this be Tom's (as in the JT route builder) YT demo clip earlier and even he admitted having to drop from 4K to 2K to get his route to run reasonably smoothly and even then he was still getting jitters and sound squelchies.

 

I made a test scenario with the JT 142 the older version with the auto box as I know the cab occlusion is good with reverb. I made a run from Crewe to preston and I'm sorry to say that most of the bridges have little to no reverb on them and some it seems have their A.D.S.R (Attack Sustain Decay Release) borked as the sounds just start to play but can't attain correct levels because attack is set too high and needs to be adjusted much lower for the sound to activate almost instantly the train passes the bridge or tunnel.
The long walled section coming out of Warrington north with bridges has virtually nothing as you pass through it very immersion breaking.
Compared to the last two releases this is very disappointing, I'm not sure if something has nerfed the sounds prior to or after release but it would be great if it could be remedied?

 

A few updates on previously reported issues...

I stopped 7T75 (Part 2) and went back to check the cab controls in the second loco, all correct with desks switched out and both reversers in the off position.

Once again concur about reverb, only a few structures on the main line run had any evidence of reverb and, as Mart mentions above, the cueing is off on those that do have it.

Think someone mentioned the Class 20 and HAA braking performance. Again can concur, it seems off. Needing to check my speed a little on the 1 in 105 down section, I had to put the brake handle to about 60% (about 75 PSI on the train pipe and 20 PSI on the loco bogies) to get the slightest retardation. If i was driving that train for real I would be red carding the whole consist for poor brakes. Not saying we need Class 380 through the windscreen braking here, but they need a bit more bite once you get past Initial Application.

 

1P19 is a SPAD on spawn

 

Massive shame. Although I’m from the North East I visited Crewe Heritage Centre a couple of years ago and have great memories of the area.

 

As a test as I know JT Preston - Carlisle used to work flawlessly, I took an 87 passenger service north from Preston & I did not have to wait long before it went all 8bit & low res on the loco & cartridges.

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