General Discussion Is Gone

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by historicalduck7, Jun 24, 2026 at 9:30 AM.

  1. candacedtg

    candacedtg Staff Member

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    I don't know if that's something that's feasible, to be honest. I will send the suggestion up, but I don't want anyone getting their hopes up.
     
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  2. jj-dogg

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    I sincerely apologize that you had to witness that arguing. I was frustrated and confused at the time, but I recognize that it was unprofessional to bring those frustrations into the discussion server. I could have handled the situation much better, and I regret that our conversation escalated into a back-and-forth exchange.

    That said, my perspective on the situation remains unchanged. While I accept responsibility for how I conducted myself, I still believe there are aspects of the situation on which we simply have different viewpoints, and I respect that we may have to agree to disagree.
     
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  3. LeadCatcher

    LeadCatcher Well-Known Member

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    and yet he is still arguing…. You have my utmost sympathy and respect Candace if this is what you have to deal with day in and day out.
     
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  4. jj-dogg

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    I realized that now and I apologize. It was completely unprofessional to put that in a discussion setting in the public for everyone to be forced to witness.
     
  5. candacedtg

    candacedtg Staff Member

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    While I know this is an interesting discussion, just post it one to two times max. Don't derail this conversation as folks will find the post organically, and I don't want people to ignore this just because it's been posted a few times.
     
  6. candacedtg

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    At least I gave y'all a small glimpse into it, which is why I just left it alone and replied publicly. This is minor compared to some of the other stuff I see. Figured I would be clear and honest with everyone.
     
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  7. lexie

    lexie Well-Known Member

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    I understand you don't want to give hopes, but at least you try to do you best. Thanks for that!
     
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  8. jj-dogg

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    Candice and I both agreed to stop arguing. Let's move on, please.
     
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  9. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    I dont understand why a ban on one DTG medium doesnt equal a ban across all. Not issuing a carpet ban just means problems move over to another medium and youve said yourself the bar for banning is higher on the forums then it is on discord. Might explain a few things.
     
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  10. chrism#4685

    chrism#4685 Well-Known Member

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    Nah it's all good and old business now, thanks!
     
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  11. operator#7940

    operator#7940 Well-Known Member

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    I'd guess because they're not interconnected, people use different names and it'd be a helluva lot of work to chase the same person across 6 different platforms.
     
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  12. ivor2024

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    So the General Discussion section will STILL remain in the Train Sim Classic forum. D'oh!

    Whilst posted in humour I think this is both a brilliant and viable option!

    With all due respect Candace, closing down the GD section for TSW customers means many of us won't even want to use this forum afterwards so you waving the ban hammer around as a deterrent is a comically impotent threat.
    ;)
     
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  13. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Closing General Discussion would kill this forum near instantly.
    Dovetail would not do any more damage than it already plans to.
     
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  14. GeraltDW

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    Has abusal potential, too. Someone could just make accounts and "run amok" in the name of someone else on one of the other platforms, just to get them banned everywhere.
     
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  15. jj-dogg

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    LMAO true
     
  16. Redbus

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    Can't remember where I read it, but I rather like the idea of merging the GD and OT forums and calling it 'Community Corner'. Especially if that forum has some additional community moderation (of which those of whom are responsible, cool-headed adults).
     
  17. polarstar

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    …I guess what I was trying to get across is that forum members are posting that some of DTG product(s) are broken/not fit for purpose and this is causing potential buyers NOT to part with their money AND this is happening on DTG’s OWN forum ! it makes good business sense to shut this forum down…not agreeing just saying !
     
  18. Pipe

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    So much drama. It's their forum and if they decide to have a pole dance section in it, what gives. I'd only miss the inputs from hundreds of beta-testers which guide me to a purchase (or not) decision.

    Good thing SimRail went Playstation.
     
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  19. candacedtg

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    Just adding on, it isn’t always fair to assume someone is one and the same either, as people impersonate each other all the time. I also don’t mind letting people interact in a community and don’t want to just aggressively move to a ban unless they break the rules in a new place. I try to give folks a chance, personally.

    *Unless you literally ask for a ban, and tell me to do it. I’ll do it, but, will be sure.
     
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  20. candacedtg

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    To be blunt, some folks will unfortunately do that, so that’s my “hey hey now, don’t put the thoughts into folks’ heads, please!” I know it’s in jest, but I know it’s going to be a week of playing Oprah and handing out bans like free tickets to a carnival ride.
     
  21. candacedtg

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    Alright, I have to get on to other stuff, but I will be getting the serious suggestions to the team.

    Personally I like the idea of just a “community corner” where general discussions take place, as that seems the most beneficial to everyone. Note that I said “personally”.

    I’ve already sent up the idea of community volunteer mods, keeping just general open, archiving older and unneeded threads, along with a few other ideas. The updated rules seem to be taken well by everyone, and I find that to be a good thing.

    I also know that the Forums have to meet certain compliance considerations and laws, so part of the issue may be implementing that. But I’ve sent every bit of feedback up unless it was uh…colorful and unhelpful at all. I probably won’t respond too much, but will check in this weekend
     
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  22. smugstarlord#4202

    smugstarlord#4202 Well-Known Member

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    Community mods is a good idea, as long as theyre the right ones
     
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  23. coldo121

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    Threatening to ban people because they disagree with a decision DTG are making just shows the attitude DTG has towards it's customers.
     
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  24. jenson

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    I would also like to state that Wikipedia, one of the largest sites on the Internet, is largely but not exclusively run by volunteer administrators.

    I understand that Wikipedia is based in a different country and works on a different business model, but it shows that a site that the public can edit can be successfully moderated by its community.
     
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  25. smugstarlord#4202

    smugstarlord#4202 Well-Known Member

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    Thats not a threat. Lol
     
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  26. trainsimplayer

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    Indeed, many of the thousands of 'independent' forums and sites across the internet.
    I imagine Dovetail's concern is if anything happens in their name - although if they hand the forums to the community their name would likely be removed anyway. So I fail to see the issue with that one.
     
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  27. jj-dogg

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    Exactly. I have no issue with moderators issuing a warning if someone makes a mildly distasteful joke. However, immediately threatening a ban over a lighthearted joke, without first providing context or a warning, feels excessive and unprofessional. A simple explanation or warning would go a long way toward resolving the situation respectfully.
     
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  28. Emmy_MAN

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    JJ-dogg,
    Could you please just stop it now!!

    One post from you would have been enough, but no – it’s precisely because of people like you that DTG decided to remove the General Discussion forum.

    And all the users here spent 12 pages pleading with DTG not to do it, and pointing out that it might also require banning a user.

    And what are you doing here? You want to have a pointless discussion about why you were banned – are you actually all right?
    If I’d been candacedtg, I’d have given you a 24-hour ban here.

    And please just reply to my post.
     
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  29. jj-dogg

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    OK, can you please calm down?

    I was just replying to someone in a way that was not related to anything me and Candace had said. Besides, we both have decided to stop talking about it, so why are you bringing it up?

    I just made a simple reply to someone, and I was going to keep it that way. Dude, just relax, OK?
     
  30. LeadCatcher

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    This guy will never learn .. so I just gave him a “Perma-Ban” myself - jj-dogg ——> ignore list. There are times one must take matters into their own hands and not wait for higher authorities :).


    I feel if more would take similar actions to the chronic offenders rather than reacting and engaging, many of the more “salty threads” would peter out quite quickly.

    Edit - After thought - before someone comes in and starts they have the right to talk or criticize in any manner they want , I agree wholeheartedly with your freedom of speech - Spent 22 years in uniform protecting that right. But Freedom of speech does not mean I have to listen to nor read it.

    good day
     
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  31. jj-dogg

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    Can you guys just calm down?

    I'm not trying to start anything. I just replied to someone's comment, and I don't plan on taking it any further than what I did. I just responded to someone, and I did nothing more.

    And when I apologized and agreed with Candace that I was not going to take this silly drama any further, I meant it.

    So, let's all take a chill pill and simmer down, okay?
     
  32. jj-dogg

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    Okay.....thanks?
     

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