General Discussion Is Gone

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by historicalduck7, Jun 24, 2026 at 9:30 AM.

  1. candacedtg

    candacedtg Staff Member

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    Just making a note-Suggestions to send up for today:
    • Moving some of the older threads to Feedback might be a good idea, as not all DLC/Packs have a feedback thread.
    • Volunteer Mods: discussed again, already on the list, but we need to have a clear and understandable selection process.
    Let me know if anything was missed.

    Also, apologies if anyone has misunderstood me, it appears there was a whole call to arms about how blunt I am. I am an American, I'm also a mom, so I try to say stuff in a concise way, while speaking without fluff or specific connotation/colloquialisms as possible. I also try to keep my tone professional, but it seems like to some folks in the UK it may read as "clipped". If you ever find fault with my wording, just ASK me to clarify, or DM me. I have 0 issues with that.
     
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  2. MadduckUK

    MadduckUK Well-Known Member

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    Hi cadamcedtg what does "clipped" mean?
     
  3. candacedtg

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    Basically, like I'm being short with people, or annoyed, or condescending.
     
  4. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    By the way. People in different countries or regions of the same country communicate differently. Some people can feel like they are not respected, even though the other person doesn't mean anything like that. If it is customary in your country to always and everywhere speak respectfully, this does not mean that people in other countries are used to speaking the same way. And not because they are bad people, but because that's how they've been doing it, since childhood. And childhood habits are the most persistent.
     
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  5. MadduckUK

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    Hi candacedtg, that doesn't sound like you , what makes you short, annoyed or condescending with people? We will try and fix it.
     
  6. candacedtg

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    I will post this clarification here, as it seemed to be the one point that ruffled feathers and struck the wrong chord:
    • Posting on the wrong forum, if GD is shut down, IF, won't get anyone a ban. We'll direct you to the right places and where you need to go. We'll do a "hey, make sure you're in the right place," then a warning, then continue on that track until a ban, if it escalates that far.
    • Purposefully directing people to post in the wrong area, or telling people to do it to get the GD forums opened back up and "force Dovetail's hand," is going to lead to a ban. We'll probably warn as stated above, unless it's something just completely against the rules, but we aren't going to be that harsh, as we understand that folks don't like the news, but acting irrationally and with a hot head can lead to a ban. I ask that everyone take a second, re-read what you're posting, and just debate with yourself if posting this will help or hurt decisions being made by DTG and the work we CMs are doing to bring community concerns forward. Or if perhaps you're posting this reactively and not in good faith. I have to do that a lot.
    • As is normal, harassment, continued actions in the same vein (like spamming a post on various areas), and other actions that are outlined in the rules as a bannable offense will get folks well...banned.
    • If I say something and it makes you go, "hey, uh...that sounds drastic," it's okay to reply and ask for clarification. You can DM me too. I type fairly bluntly, and I am seeing some folks have taken that as "rude", when I'm not being that way.
     
  7. candacedtg

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    Hmm... people being mean to animals?
     
  8. MadduckUK

    MadduckUK Well-Known Member

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    Hi Cadancedtg I think you are avoiding the issue, are you ok? Could you tell us about the other forums you moderate for and what you have learned from doing that?

    We need more people as dedicated as you so its important to know what barriers you face.
     
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  9. candacedtg

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    Come on now, quit derailing the conversation. I know you're just goofing off.
     
  10. MadduckUK

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    Hi Cadancedtg. It's a Sunday so I am goofing off. Do you not goof off on a Sunday?
     
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  11. MrSouthernDriver

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    It is approaching the 24 hour mark for the closing of general discussion.

    tomorrow is the perfect time for DTG to U-turn this decision.

    we must make our voices heard. It is not over yet.
     
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    Thing is, where do we post about general stuff? Not everyone wants to use Discord, if we just want to discuss a certain route or Locomotive. Where do we go?
     
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  13. candacedtg

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    It's a good question. I would guess most of that conversation will go into the Feedback threads SHOULD this get shut down. I did send the suggestion that Off Topic be closed instead of General already, but if you have any ideas or suggestions, send them my way!
     
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  14. historicalduck7

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    i’ve been following this thread over the weekend but haven’t contributed anything but i feel like as a community we’re letting ourselves down. for a few days, there was the most amazing agreement over something that we feel is fundamental to the game and the community of players who’ve given so much and often not received their fair share back. unfortunately, the past day or two things have taken the turn they normally take, in that squabbles and insults over minor things have completely overshadowed the whole point of this thread. we’re completely letting ourselves down and providing direct examples that dtg could use to evidence the decision to shut GD down. none of us want that, so it’s important that we continue to be civil and respectful of each other because if not we can wave goodbye to the forum as we know it. finally, just to note this:
    this sounds promising, very promising but it’s still not over yet. all we can do is hope but it seems dtg are taking serious consideration over whether they made the correct decision. once again, if the decision is reversed then i’d like to think the vast majority of players here will give dtg no grief about it: in a way it’s an understandable decision, but ultimately the wrong one. having seen all of the input from CMs since the thread opens it’s clear there was never any malice in the decision to close GD, just an error of judgement which, if the decision is reversed, can be forgiven
     
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  15. ilovelucky63

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    You could just keep general discussion open.
    I am telling you know, you are going to have a lot of actively engaged people suddenly less engaged with the sim and that will in the long run negatively affect sales.
     
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  16. candacedtg

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    Keep in mind I'm saying IF mainly because I'm sending all the suggestions up, but I make no guarantees. If it were up to me, I wouldn't close up the General Discussion, but that's why I'm sending everything up, as it needs to be sent to the folks who make that decision.

    I'll be honest, I don't mind the minor squabbles and small misunderstandings, as far as I know, we're all human, and it's going to happen. When people start attacking each other with a vengeance or attacking staff, I delete the comments and give the benefit of the doubt until I can't anymore. So, keep that in mind, and just keep being awesome like y'all have been most of today.
     
  17. jonnyd7

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    Unfortunately people will not be civil here anymore, I just don’t see that happening (just based on this thread alone :)). It’s like a cancer that first infiltrated slowly, now it’s completely taken over.

    I hope I’m proven wrong, but just like the rest of society it seems like there are more and more people who lack manners these days and I don’t trust it to get any better.
     
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  18. historicalduck7

    historicalduck7 Well-Known Member

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    i’m no conspiracy theorist but i’m certain it’s because of covid. since then people have become less accepting, less patient and more self absorbed. these forums are another one of countless examples
     
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  19. R3DWolf91

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    Good Python reference lol
     
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    I honestly think you're on to something there. I work retail, and have seen more rude, ignorant, and impatient behavior over the past six years than I have with my sixteen at the company. I think the isolation mixed with global politics and blind reliance on social media for news has been such a detriment to society as a whole.
     
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  21. jonnyd7

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    It just amazes me that people can’t have basic empathy anymore. It’s one thing to call out flaws or issues or be unhappy with a service. It’s a completely different thing to belittle and berate as an option to voice that frustration.

    Sorry for getting off topic, but it just makes me angry that people think acting in that manner is in anyway acceptable. And reading about your experiences in retail just proves it’s a larger issue. I hope dealing with those classless people is the rarity and not the norm for you though.
     
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  22. R3DWolf91

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    It used to be, but just a week ago I got screamed at by four different people, over things I had nothing to do with, that were not worth screaming about lol
     

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