Route Edinburgh - Glasgow - Feedback Thread

Discussion in 'Route Add-on Feedback' started by TimTri, Aug 10, 2023.

  1. TrackingTrains

    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    Yes lol - it makes it not so fun to drive, as alongside sound issues and the loco functionality just seeming dated with many things in-op unlike recent trains, you also can't really see the scenery!
     
  2. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Whats the 380 like i just saw that on xbox store where does that is it better.
     
  3. TrackingTrains

    TrackingTrains Well-Known Member

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    The loco is much better quality.
    Still has a small window. I got it for the CCL timetable upgrade (I think that was the one bundled with this).
     
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  4. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mate.
     
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  5. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Bought it playing it. its much better the window doesn't feel small compared to the 385.
     
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  6. thomastl59374

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    I've just tried to play a service with the 385 and it's awful. I've not driven it for a couple of months and this issue is new. There's this constant 2 tone almost alarm like sound that never stops or quietens.

    This is on Xbox one. Never had this issue before with the 385.
     
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  7. TrackingTrains

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    1E30 Aberdeen to Leeds (20:37) (Sprinter Timetable)
    Haymarket Platform 1 yards stop marker is in a position such that the leading door of coach A overhangs the platform
     
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  8. OldVern

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    Still has far too quick braking. I used it (380) on a couple of Shields ECS runs to get the 20C Mastery runs done and anything over about 8% braking the thing pretty much stands on its nose.
     
  9. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Yes braking is really sharp i thought.
     
  10. thomastl59374

    thomastl59374 Well-Known Member

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    Platform: Xbox one

    Scenario: [158] 5N40 Glasgow-Eastfield depot.

    After waiting at the red signal before entering the depot, a class 385 passes you and at the rear of the train, the headlights were on.

    I've had this same issue on another Rivet Route, WCL, were the 37's headlights were wrong.
     
  11. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Reported it a long time back, was also on PC. Never heard back.
    Out of interest, did you look to see if the driver was in the wrong cab?
     
  12. thomastl59374

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    No I wasn't able to see if there was a driver.
     
  13. astafic#8452

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    Some pretty awful lighting coming out of the tunnel just before GQS. PS5.
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  14. TrackingTrains

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    Yeah, that section is atrocious for lighting
     
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  15. TSW Nathan

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    Unfortunately it's always been like that :(
     
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    Why does the 4-car cab A not have head out camera option (xbox via left dpad), but cab B and both 3 car cabs do?

    I remember a patch about this once, but makes no sense to me...
     
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  17. BeastyBill88

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    Was it ever reported that rain only shows on the left side windows of the 385 when it's not moving? Especially the drivers window, once you start moving you don't get rain on the window anymore until you stop again. I thought it was a mod causing it but it's not.
     
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  18. OldVern

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    Had a run on this yesterday evening and for my sins picked the 385. Still sounds as awful as ever, like a flying saucer on pullaway and then just a bit of white noise. I’m guessing this has now moved far beyond any expectation of Rivet doing a revised and better sound set, more abandoned content. Fortunately, we have the 158/380 timetables to play which, while both have their faults in particular the 380 heavy braking, are far better to run the route than the 385.

    I mean you have to wonder how the he££ anyone at DTG signed off on the 385 with this sound set in the first place…
     
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  19. FifeFlyer75

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    Prompted by seeing activity on the route again, thought I'd give it another go but using the 380 instead of the awful 385.
    Brakes aside, it's definitely nicer to drive. However, 4 miles outside Haymarket in pop the blurry textures again and suddenly I'm driving for what looks like "SootRaN".

    Close to being done with this game.

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  20. astafic#8452

    astafic#8452 Well-Known Member

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    I hate how ScR content is suffering from blurry textures, poor sounds, poor physics and no one is doing anything about it. This genuinely looks like ROBLOX at this point.
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  21. samscragg

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    Will drive just about anything and enjoy a good rotation, but Rivets 385 really is the exception. I forget how bad it sounds, play it once a year and once I have realised don't drive it again. It is a real shame for it to just be abandoned as the model is decent. I wonder what ever happened to that recording trip promised years ago?
     
  22. yambam#1598

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    Is there going to be an update to the 385 sounds? There are awful and wrong... They just used 484 sounds. Only way I play Edinburgh to Glasgow is with the 380 or 158.
     
  23. BeastyBill88

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    Are you on PC if so there's a sound mod for the 385 that improves the sounds compared to what Rivet did
     
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  24. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    There's a patch that's coming out for the Rivet routes next month - was supposed to be this week. They haven't said what's in the patch so we can only hope! :D
     
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  25. david5150

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    I never use the routes own locos on this. I only do this route using scenario planner.
     
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  26. BeastyBill88

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    I bet it'll be just this:
    • Various localisation improvements
     
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  27. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    That's worth a :D
     
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  28. marcsharp2

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    There was an implication that Station announcements would be added.

    So it's possibly that.
     
  29. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    I really hope it's more than that, because I haven't touched either this or Fife Circle in ages, as lots to fix.
     
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  30. BeastyBill88

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    I'm not going to get my hopes up to be fair
     
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  31. max#2873

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    except initial station - no passengers. anywhere else. xbx/x sprinter timetable.
     
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  32. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    I forgot how bad the track textures were in this route.
    They still haven't fixed a signal on Waverley approach.
    But it's nice to have a few 170 services.
     
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  33. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Really great improvement but I still find this route boring i dont know way.
     
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  34. maccagee#4924

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    It's just an A to B route with no real options for variety and you can't do any freight services because there isn't any on that line.
    I think even if they'd added Falkirk Grahamston it would have added some variety.

    This is where someone like Just Trains beats everyone else because they add lots of branches to keep things interesting.
    I think, had they added Grahamston or even say the line via Cumbernauld it would have been more interesting.
     
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  35. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    You head hit nail right on the head there.
     
  36. eMAyTeeTee

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    Just drove one the Class 170 services out of Queen Street and the signal it wanted me to stop by was red, (obviously), but without any ambers leading up to it, only greens. It also felt really underwhelming just stopping like that. I liked Skyhook's implementation of adding a stop at Croy better, even if it's less distance.
     
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    This was 1H09, btw
     
  38. samfjsmith

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    Anyone else experiencing barely audible safety system warnings? It’s so quiet that I’ve had to put headphones on to be able to hear the audible warning. I’m on PC
     
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    Just about to say they're too quiet on the 385, and I'm on Xbox so it's not just a PC thing
     
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  40. samfjsmith

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    I did wonder if it was the 385 sound mod for PC but I’ve just rebooted with it turned off and it’s still barely audible. Seems it’s cross platform then
     
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  41. kieran#9718

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    Experiencing the same issue (Xbox)
    Can barely hear it over the train running sounds and I’ve got a headset on!
     
  42. OldVern

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    At the risk of blowing my usual trumpet, this is a route which would have benefited from being set in BR Classic days rather than using modern bland stock. Class 27’s on the Edinburgh to Glasgow push pulls or even the 47/7’s with DBSO. Lots of loco hauled action at Queen Street with trains to and from the West Highland Line and the Perth route. Plenty of Class 101’s buzzing about on the stoppers. Paxman HST’s at Edinburgh, maybe 40’s on the Aberdeen services etc.
     
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  43. dal#7945

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    That sounds 100x better then what we got now.
     
  44. maccagee#4924

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    The MSTS version by Making Tracks was a favourite.
     
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  45. Princess Entrapta

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    A letterbox wouldn't feel small compared to the 385!
     
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  46. Strat-tastic

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    That sounds painful ;)

    Look. Stop it. Just stop it! :o;)
     
  47. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Press the signal button in the cab of the 385 and then press it again when in external view (B key on PC).

    Hmmmmm....
     
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  48. Jpantera

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    Far too interesting, cant be having all that noise and two handles and things like locos being attached and detached.....

    One day maybe someone will do it?
     
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