Tsw 7 - I Guess Its Accidentally Official Now

Same for me on Xbox. It's really difficult to enjoy routes after they turn blurry, and even worse the issue is starting to infect routes which never used to have them like Riviera and Birmingham Cross City. What also makes it bad is I find it difficult to look forward to new releases as the expectation (at least for me) is that they will be blurry, which is usually proven right by feedback threads and yt videos. Hopefully this can be addressed in TSW7 but I wont hold out much hope.

 

No, when JT wrote this in 2025 it said TSW6. Someone has come along recently and changed it to TSW7 without editing anything else.

 

The trouble with the WHL and other similar lines in Scotland is it's very much an A-B run regardless of the era, with limited replayability. Even when everything was loco hauled other than a small amount of shunting it would only be the run round at each end. I think the best routes have lots to go back to, Crewe - Preston comes to mind where I feel I've still only scratched the surface regarding the timetable.

 

Yes this is quite interesting and confirmed if you look on Wayback Machine. Even if it was a mistake it seems at JT at least the 'TSW 7' nomenclature is being used in conversation if not more.

 

Sorry to say "no that will not happen" why?! TSW and new versions are DTG only products so third-party routes like the Fife Circle are not a DTG production.... So if you looking to earlier TSW reveals it's DTG only

 

worth bearing in mind that rivet have been contracted to do the last two core uk routes in wcmls and riviera. and in fairness, they did pretty well given their track record

 

Nice, but that’s completely unrelated to what I was responding to, and your comment doesn’t add anything to that point. The fact that Rivet supports DTG with route development is entirely separate from the idea that Rivet would release something themselves for the TSW7 core game which has never happened to this day. And by the way, it’s not just Rivet helping out; for example, TSG is also involved in many trains for German routes. So nothing new there.

 

WCMLS was a bit of a car crash though it took months to get it working after release and it's still not my cup of tea. Riviera was definitely better release and restored a little bit of their reputation.

One thing I will give them is that Tyler knows how to make a good timetable. The ECW one is great and the whole reason to buy the 171 pack, although the pack has broken in places as of the latest update.

 

Just read this thread from beginning to end and wondered why JT are getting the blame?

Surely the bigger clues were Matt saying that he wanted to appear on Strictly and then DTG appointing the ghost of Len Goodman as one of their new Ambassadors?

 

Well, for the core release it's a DTG product but often with the assistance of other TSW developers. Just like most companies outsource specific jobs to an expert in that field, DTG do that and it's a good thing usually.

It's worth remembering that during the Dovetail Direct event a number of partner developers' projects are also revealed. So, yes, it's always the case that non-DTG projects are part of the big TSW# reveal video.

 

Yeah nice, except you were talking about an extension of the Fife Circle Line addon… That has nothing to do with TSW7 then, right? It’s a standalone Rivet add‑on. That’s what I was referring to that it’s not something you should expect. What third‑party developers do as support isn’t relevant. And as I already said, that happens plenty… Just look at Mike from TSG, he’s involved in pretty much every DB loco that has been released for TSW.

 

I think you have seriously misunderstood me. There was talk of Rivet getting back to route building and I mentioned in response that an extension to Fife Circle would be nice. At no point did I say I expected it in TSW7, it's just chat. In any case who knows what treats are coming in the "Take a ticket" section of Dovetail Direct or whatever they're calling the bit where some new releases from other development studios are unveiled. I don't know, nor do you.

And a bit of advice, I'm sure it wasn't intended but starting a response with a dismissive "Yeah nice" isn't polite.

 

Ah yeah sorry then i have you misunderstood. You can ignore my writing then

And Yeah Nice wasn't meaning any unfriendly.

 

I watched the TSS society video and It got to the section where it was DTG gameplay of the Richmond extension and I noticed one thing...



The colour is different.

This build is NOT TSW6

DTG, YOUVE BEEN CAUGHT OFF GUARD

 

could it simply be a mod?

 

Don't think so, there are no mods that really change the menu colour

 

What colour is it normally?

 

TSW6s colour is yellow, this is different, as it's white.

 

are those buttons usually yellow? I thought those were always white.

 

Maybe you discovered something...
The new feature of TSW7.

 

What new feature? Security cameras?

 

Its more beige or grey....
Underneath you see the yellow button to compare it with the colours of the UI

And making a picture from your monitor is very difficult to share and keep the original color

 

the slider too, again a different colour




tsw6 one on the bottom.


Comparison from the TSW6 door selection





THIS IS TSW7.

 

It’s releasing next week for TSW6 though so would make little sense that a TSW7 beta version is floating around. Not suggesting TSW7 doesn’t exist as it clearly does, but seems unlikely that the shots are from that.

 

Could end up being something like this

 

Probably spot on.

 

Grey is a bit of a boring colour if you ask me

 

i don’t mind it, they’re going to run out of choices eventually before they have to reuse thumbnails

 

My guess is either Green or Purple this time for the logo lol.

 

I'm fairly convinced. It's definitely a different scheme. No way they're doing UI changes on TSW6 at this point in time.

 

Could it not be just a sort of beta build route creators use and that's got a sort of simplified interface or not updated since an older TSW version?

 

Agree.
It's often debated as to whether it's even a "colour" some say it's a "tone" a "hue" or "shade". In fact it's technically an achromatic colour.
However, just to confuse the issue, many hues/tones/shades of grey are best obtained by mixing-in a colour palette technically returning the results back to a colour.

I appreciate no-one asked for that information, but...what else did you expect from a boring old guy like me?

 

Wow, a lot of speculation here based on what seems to be a photo of an incorrectly-calibrated monitor or TV.

I'm going to point out a few things:

- The 378's cab walls are supposed to be white, not blue.

- Different graphics cards will produce different colours in screenshots, due to varying saturation, HDR and RGB settings. This will make colours look different depending on the PC the screenshot was taken on.

- TSW6 provides accessibility settings for people who are colourblind. The DTG footage may have been recorded on a PC that had its TSW6 settings or even just its graphics card settings adjusted.

- Other than a slight variation in the shade / intensity of the yellow, the UI is exactly the same. I can't imagine "keep the UI the same but make the yellow yellower" is very high up DTG's priority list.

As far as I'm concerned this is just a bad photo of a monitor playing a video of TSW6.

With a bit of messing around I too can produce a photo of a screen showing "TSW7" with a nasty blue tint and no yellow...

 

This is NOT A TV Glitch


If we look at an actual screenshot, it's CLEAR it's a different colour

 

Did you read the rest of my post?

 

I did! Can you take another picture but this time not have the camera specifically placed to avoid any yellow buttons in the cab being visible?

 

I dont see any reason why a 3rd party developer should heavily edit footage and if they would why not reproduce the TSW 6 colors?
What you edited doesnt even look like the "new" HUD design since the "contact signaller" and "lock all" designs arent bright but dark gray and there isnt any filter applied.

I am more concernded of this being an In-Editor gameplay but i cant tell since im not sure if the editor just uses the TSW 6 colors or how the DTG in house one works.
Two things speaking against this are the german spelling in the HUD, which afaik should be english within the DTG editor, and the overall lack of the usual editor stuttering.

 

Who said anything about editing footage? I'm talking about the colours being off and the UI being identical, of course my example doesn't look the same, it was to show that changing settings on a monitor can make colours look different.

The fact people think this is TSW7 purely based on the fact that the yellow isn't the same yellow as on their own screen, and are then choosing to ignore or deliberately misinterpret coherent arguments against that theory, is frankly ridiculous.

 

So your telling me that these two images are from the same TSW6 we see?



Bottom one being the TSW6 version.

The two images would have the EXACT same ui colour if it was true.


Same here...you can NOT tell me with a straight face that these are from the same game..UI wise

 

Im not sure if i understand you correctly. You say its a different yellow but the "new" HUD isnt yellow at all and im saying your comparison with different tones of yellow doesnt make sense in that regard.

 

You made EVERYTHING blue. It's no good telling us all the ways the colours could be different and then providing this junk as an example, it's clearly not what's happening here.

 

Also to add to this, the image provided at the top is brighter and more white compared to the screenshot in the bottom, so it's not anything in TSW6

I am 100% convinced the UI colour we've seen, is some form of TSW7.

 

The train you drove yesterday in the live stream on Thames Valley Branches had exactly the same silver lever as in your picture.

And Thames Valley Branches is coming out for TSW 6, not for TSW 7.

 

It's most likely just a dev build assembled for the video, since the current version does not have an update for this route. It's unlikely the build shown on the video has any relation to TSW7. They're probably on different branches.

 

It’s not a big deal really is it ??…. The changes are very minimal. And as others have pointed out it could simply just be a beta build.

 

Agreed.

Of what?

 

I'm talking about "yellow" because the HUD element we're talking about is yellow and in the purported "TSW7" screenshots it's a very faint yellowy-grey (RGB 138,142,139 if you don't believe me). Every screenshot / photo also shows a 378 with interior cab walls that have a blue tint to them, when they're actually white. Two factors which lead me to believe it's nothing more than reduced red and green RGB values set at GPU / monitor / Windows level, and / or some variation of the TSW colourblindness settings, of which there are 300 combinations so I'm not going to test them all.

This entire discussion is nuts. People have spotted one of the HUD colours is off and they're out here claiming that's a) it's definitive proof that we're looking at TSW7 even though the UI is completely unchanged, and b) that they think DTG had "reduce saturation of HUD yellow and leave thre rest of the HUD unchanged" on their to-do list for the next iteration.

For all we know it's just one of the many HUD mods out there, and maybe the colour's even something that's changeable at .ini levl.

I'm not going to bother entertaining this discussion any further. DTG would not film promotional footage for a TSW6 route in an unfinished TSW7 test build.

 

This is the very faint yellowy-grey if anyone else would like to see through time and space.

 

I'm getting Deja Vu.

Reminds of....

What colour is this dress?