Tsw 7 - I Guess Its Accidentally Official Now

I fear the I7C is dead, honestly, since the most recent round of updates swapped the layer for it on the Fife Circle sprinter TT for the GWR HST like on Edinburgh Glasgow

 

Waverley wasn't really updated per se it was just ported from Fife Circle back to Edinburgh - Glasgow for consistency / better quality on E2G.

ECML North would be practically complete, rolling stock wise. We already have the 801, 385 and 380 which are the main trains along that route (as far as Dunbar for the latter two). If the Northern 158 is coming with a West Yorkshire route then that's ticked off too.
All that's missing would Lumo/TPE trains, the Class 800 and the Class 156 for an alternative to Morpeth.

All Borders services would also be ticked off with the 170 and all other AI at the western end is covered minus the Class 334.

It would probably be one of the most ''complete" routes we've had to date.

For a core route that's a very unappealing situation.

 

I would doubt it's a core route, but it could explain what Rivet have been working on if ATS are this year's UK core route builder. Throw Millerhill and Craigentinny into the mix along with the North Berwick branch and there's potential for some interesting moves?

 

Would make sense for Rivet to climb up the Scottish East Coast further, something like Dundee-Aberdeen. 158, 170, 220 and, of course, the reworked HST! I've already made a proposal about that stretch, some time ago

 

God help us if ATS are doing the core route. I mean, Rivet are bad but at least they know not to use Triang Hornby second radius curves… If that is the case (and not saying it is) it’s a sad reflection on how much has been cut back at DTG they no longer have any in house route development capability. They are going to end up like N3V and Trainz, entirely dependent on third parties.

 

i do have faith that with the right support and expectations ats can pull off a good route. MAC was decently modelled, has a great timetable and was overall a good first route. of course it’s not the same team now, but i still reckon they’d do a good job

 

I don't think we need to be worried about ATS being the main route builder for TSW7. The only link I can see above is that the supposed route is part of a route that was created by a developer that publishes their work on ATS.

Even if they are, MAC is mostly decent and the track has since been fixed. It just should be longer.

 

It might end up being West Yorkshire Metro: Airedale Wharfedale and Wakefield lines. Using Leeds as the central hub station.

They might have even combined the ECML from Doncaster to Leeds in a repeat of last year's German core?

 

That would be very cool. Personally i like a network and the ECML section we have in the game is pretty dull imo.

 

I think you're all being very ambitious in your dreams. We'd be lucky to get the Ilkley and Bradford branches.

 

It's only 40.Miles. I'd hardly call that "ambitious"

 

That would be a shame, I would love to see Rivet come in with some more ScotRail content especially HST content. I fear you're right though.
I'm hoping it's a similar case to Grump Dog's GWR Class 387 and it was just announced/found/revealed wayy too early

 

Especially with the WCML stretches now, it's a bit on the bland side. Also, it would be nice to get away from central London and all those fps killing terminals.

 

As for the American route, were there any leaks?

 

There usually isn't. The UK usually takes most of the spotlight with German stuff usually second.

 

Trouble is, they must find it very hard to compete with Run 8. I just added the Fresno to Modesto route which now means if I wish, I can drive all the way from Modesto to Seligman, which must be getting on for 500 miles! This new section is over 200 driveable miles as it includes the UP and BNSF routes between the two cities. Not bad for £30!

 

To be fair, the ECML is much more dull than the WCML. It doesn't have a regional operator like LNWR running the majority of its length. Apart from commuter services from London and Newcastle, it's mainly InterCity trains.

The WCML on the other hand has regional services all the way from London to north of Crewe, a ton of ScotRail services at the Glasgow end, and some Northern between Wigan and Lancaster although we won't see them in their modern guise.

And infrastructurally the WCML is probably more interesting, with four track sections, the splits at Northampton and into Birmingham, and the fact that there are IETs and Pendolinos on the InterCity rather than just IETs as on the ECML.

I think you'd have to go from Newcastle or London to find a truly interesting bit of the ECML, personally.

 

ECMLS has plenty of regional.services. Great Northern, Thameslink. And then all.of the faster Intercity services. It would.be similar to WCMLs. Just better IMO. better variety of rolling stock and Kings X!!!!

You also have the bottleneck at Welwyn North. The potential Branch to Cambridge and the Moorgate line. More opportunities if you ask me.

 

Saying ECML intercity services are only IETs is just objectively untrue;

• Grand Central run 221s and 180s.
• The LNER IC225s.
• XC 220s and 221s north of Doncaster/York

 

Class 387s/379s also do Express Services that often run non stop all the way to Letchworth. On an ECMLS route that would be the entire route. Much more variety.

 

nothing that anyone’s aware of it seems. unless i’ve missed something in the last few years the last US core route to be ‘leaked’ was boston-providence for tsw2 rush hour, a whole 5 (FIVE, that’s gone way too fast for my liking) years ago.

 

I've always found it odd that it's normally just the UK stuff that leaks

 

i think it’s likely because there’s more online engagement from UK than US players on the forums, and maybe discord too. plus the ratio of routes is a huge factor.

 

The first time was so nice, THEY
HAD TO DO IT TWICE

JT saw the jude bellingham hattrick during the mexico game and thought "hmm, let's do it with TSW7"

 

About the Class 333

seems to be some python code.

 

Here's the funniest thing. they scrubbed out the TSW7 hashtag, yesterday at 1am, meaning that the TSW7 hashtag was public

3 DAYS.


THEY DIDNT NOTICE FOR 3 DAYS

THAT THEY SLIPPED UP

 

This has to be a wind up surely, I can't believe they "accidentally" did it again

 

Nope, they actually did.

What an absolute hattrick from JT.

TSW7 revealed TWICE in a row.

 

I mean this surely can't be accidental this time lol

 

"Oops I did it again"

 

Never. The ECML managed to keep its character from top to bottom. Even the Kings Cross redevelopment uncluttered the shed and made a feature of it. Stations like York, Darlington and Newcastle feel like a proper railway. Hull Trains, Lumo, Trans-Pennine, Northern, Scotrail, Grand Central, Thameslink, Great Northern, East Midlands and GBR Anglia provide a supporting cast for LNER.

The WCML south of Crewe is mostly 1960's pre-cast concrete brutalist architecture, cold stations that provide little cover in the rain, the least scenic approach to London in terms of skyline (though no worse than its West London neighbours Marylebone and Paddington) and the most depressing London terminus of the lot with the architectural vandalism that is the 1960's Euston building.

I always use the superior Eastern route when going up to Scotland. The service is more reliable too.

 

Anyway, looking at the alleged leak, there's no reason to suggest it relates to the main TSW7 route. There's been a lot of focus on the big UK release but to be honest I'm just as excited finding out about what other UK releases are coming.

Though please don't make it like last year where all of the third party UK routes seemed to be sections of the WCML. I don't think I've had a more disappointing Dovetail Direct. Even the Great Western route hasn't been something I return to very often. The lack of seawall access burst my dreams of walking along hearing the waves crash and the distant sound of an HST approaching.

 

I'm guessing JT were expecting TSW7 to be announced in the July roadmap, like with TSW6 last year. The webpages and social media for the sale were probably built a while ago and set to automatically publish.

 

If it was a hat-trick, what was the third?

 

I doubt MaxTracks/ATS would've been able to convert their route from TSC to TSW that fast. I dont think it's a simple procedure otherwise I'd assume every developer would have looked at using the models from TSC and ported them over to save a bit of time and money.

 

That’s JSON, from one of the asset files in the editor.

 

I remember hearing a while ago that a TSC developer was able to convert a TSW class 166 model into a TSC model so it might be possible to do it in reverse just no developer has tried it yet.

edit: here's the link where I found about the technique Ats “tsc Ready Series” Class 165/166 Released | Dovetail Games Forums

 

The lack of Class 25/31/42/45/46/47/50/52/118/119/120, semaphore signals and acres of track at Newton Abbot was the ultimate downer for me. DTG read the room but not completely and it should have been set in an earlier epoch. If the rumours about the Leeds network are true, they’ve done the same again although the 158 is borderline okay.

 

This is on purpose for sure! Nobody do this on accident!

 

YESSSSSSSSSSS COME ON YESSSSSSSSS


oh my word, this is one feature, I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED,

Sorry for the overexcitement, but I have been BEGGING DTG FOR YEARS to add this to TSW


ADJUSTABLE FOV ON CONSOLE

GET IN
GET IN

 

At last! Basic accessibility features! Woo!

(Would this be on PC as well or is there already a way to change it that doesn't involve mods?)

 

They are hoping to add, but it has been 9 years and hope hasn't worked yet.

Same for a gamma slider, just come on.

 

If they add it to console we'll get it on PC, it's the same game.

 

The roller-ball in the middle of my mouse changes the field of view. I assumed it was the same for all PC users.

 

Is there anything that suggests this route will specifically be the TSW7 UK core route or is it also possible it is going to be a DLC released very shortly after TSW7 similar to Boston Worcester or Birmingham Crewe. Please correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not familiar in the slightest with data mining but it makes logical sense for the core route to something involving the recently revealed SWT license. Sorry if this comes across as rude or demanding!

 

It is, but the range and values are pretty limited and it doesn't save your preferred setting for your next session, in fact I'm not even sure it retains it when you switch views. I've had my FOV permanently set using GodMode for years now (which also adds super zoomy-zoom), but not everyone wants to use mods for basic features that are missing from the game. That's why people want an FOV slider.

 

disappointing if its another one handled d/emu route

 

Just because an EMU/DMU has one handle doesnt always mean it isnt interesting.

 

Exactly! I think they expect 17 thousand levers and pedals to have fun.

 

The main problem with “one handled” modern trains, is that they tend to be so powerful, both in traction and braking capabilities that there is little challenge actually driving them. No sustained full throttle thrash or thinking about your braking point. And too often, small letterbox cab windows offering a very restricted forward view of the scenery the route builders worked long and hard to produce.