Dovetail Direct 25th August

Where is this timing from? Are we talking about the same thing?
Are we discussing the Dovetail Direct Livestream?
This is the first line of the official post:
"Get ready to Expect the Unexpected... on Tuesday, August 26th 2025 at 16:30 UTC!"
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/dovetail-direct-2025-live-on-26th-august.93196/

I thought CEST was only 2 hours later than UTC?
Where do you get the 2200 hrs time?

 

When you watch on YT you see the following information...
Countdown begins 17:00utc
Show begins at 20:00utc -> is 22:00hr mainland Europe so GER, NL, FR, B etc etc
So that's bizar late for people they have to work or go to school next day... I have raised my questions about this whole situation but as expected DTG never responded on this. 22:00hr at night is ridiculous if you asking me.

 

You are a year out of date there.

 

just been reading through stuff on here about dtg being at gamescom, which i agree is most likely the reason the direct has been pushed back 3 hours. only a prediction, but i reckon the tsw7 thumbnail will get released during that so speculation can continue for the remainder of the countdown

 

Ah, that's why.
My mistake.
That does seem late.

 

I’m hoping this is about TSW7 I have been waiting to see if they are adding the class 730’s as its apart of the same family the 710’s are in, this would be an amazing addition to the WCML

 

Please not more WCML stuff it seems to be the only railway in the UK as far as some devs seem to think...

 

This will probably get buried but just for a bit of fun I created an anonymous questionaire in preparation for the Direct tomorrow.

https://forms.gle/GHeFdmmwuzy3WWHH6

I know it starts at 17:00 UTC (pre-show nonsense).... will there be anything of note to keep an eye on in that three hours until the main show starts at 20:00 UTC? As you might have guessed I am not a fan of "pre-show" antics which makes users sit there for extended periods seeing if they can spot secrets or something. Just run the show!

Anyhow... I hope you can fill in the questionaire about what you think will be announced and your opinion on features etc...

Thanks in advance.

 

And when you have our ideas what will you do with it? I think people have shared enough on the forums so maybe you can look around and read what is shared....

 

Not only that, the survey requires you to sign in. No thank you!

 

Google forms prevent duplicate records. All the information provided gives ZERO personal information to me. That is why I said it was anonymous.

I have been reading out the results and stats on stream in the lead up to the Dovetail Direct and I will be tomorrow during the live to. It is interesting to see people's opinions of TSW and their wants and needs for the sim going forward.

Results will be public after 25th.

 

I guess 99% will still remain wishes and will not reality so you have not so much to share.

 

Won't be bothering, never find them interesting enough.

I'll settle for the tl;dr article.

 

That's exactly why I am doing it... interesting to find out what people want.

 

IF (and it's just guesswork really) we're getting an electric network in West Yorkshire, here's my "excitement rating".
Just Skipton to Leeds Central - 4/10
Skipton and Ilkley to Leeds Central - 6/10
Bradford included - 7/10
Neville Hill included - 8/10
Class 321 included - 10/10
Leeds to Doncaster included - 12/10

 

Weren't people already complaining about Doncaster not being a good station to anchor a line to?

 

People? What people? Some lads went past about 10 minutes ago. They were talking about football though.

Doncaster isn't a good station to anchor a line to, no LNER crew changes there (or at Peterborough for that matter). If there's already a line to Doncaster and after a "Route Hop" you can continue the journey to somewhere that isn't Doncaster, then that's better. Especially if you're driving a Class 91 or 321.

 

I'd like more Doncaster, but then I'm biased

 

If we do get another route with Doncaster it going to be empty with out a 91 Doncaster route Should be Doncaster to York and Leeds

 

Doncaster wasn't a good place to end the Northern section of the ECML route too. Quite a few trains don't even stop there. York further up the line is a driver change over point and would make more sense.

Doncaster for more local trains does make more sense as an end point on a route.

 

Except the trains that don't stop at Doncaster don't stop at Peterborough either...

 

That why a London to York route would be great Just make a London to Peterborough route and add Doncaster to York and maybe Leeds

 

This is quite common. A lot of ICEs don't stop at Fulda, Ingolstadt, Aschaffenburg. Most Avanti trains dont stop at MK.

 

‘just make these massive sections’ is very wishful and ultimately unrealistic thinking. all 3 of those would be separate routes with their own timetables, merging them would create a route that no console could run

 

It's silly, and I've been disappointed before, so I am prepared, but nonetheless I am quite excited by tonight's DTL. At best, we'll get some real improvements, at worst, some interesting new DLC. And it's a novelty isn't it.

 

I think people avoid the first part of Matt's statement and focus on the second to fool themselves into thinking "memory isn't an issue" in order to justify longer routes.
Beyond that, I still come back to the point that the longer the route, the more it'll cost. Three routes merged into one will still be 3 times the cost to make since those hours of work still have to go in. I hear people demanding huge routes three times as long, but no one saying they want to pay three times as much.
The routes and costs are where they are because that's what they've figured out people are willing to pay.

 

100% with you there. And none of us have to buy it if we don’t want to.

 

I was most excited by the Rush Hour announcement - since TSW3 my interest dwindled (still interested, just not as excited as before). I'm getting rekindled excitement with this one though.

Might just be the countdown. I'm a sucker for countdowns.

 

I guess its more appropriate to speak in here now. Since we all pretty much know its TSW7.

But anyway...around 2 hours to go

 

You have to wait way longer fore sure... The first 2,5hrs there is nothing to see i'm afraid

 

what do you think the core feature is this time since last time when they start the stream we heard passenger announcement while we waited for the stream to start? i really like how they hinted that passenger announcement was the core feature. i think they should keep the announcement and use it everytime they start the dovetail direct moving forward cause THAT WAS THE BEST !!!!!

 

may not be nothing

 

I would be happy if it no longer runs like a dog scooting, It would be like every route in the game is fresh and new again.

 

Hopefully nothing except bug fixes and improvements

 

this thread will do!

 

Maybe upgrade it?

 

Make another and we can have a Thread1 Vs The2ndThread battle for superiority as an accompagnement.

 

So they go up directly against Opening Night live from Gamescom? Bold move

 

I'll mod it. Take the night off you deserve it.

 

I still don’t quite get this. I mean for all we enjoy TSW, train simming is hardly a major player on the world gaming stage. They could have had Direct yesterday, tomorrow or even at an earlier time today so that the juicy bits aren’t being broadcast when most of us are in bed. Unless, as I said previously, the thing is so underwhelming this year they want a firebreak between the announcements and the explosion of comments on the forum, FB and Discord.

 

I haven't played it for a long time, I thought there were some which started at Grantham or Newark or somewhere but did stop at Peterborough. Maybe I am misremembering.

 

Typical. When hobbies collide. Thundery activity moving north over the UK this evening and overnight.

So I'll have DD on the left hand of the screen, real-time lightning map, radar map and live webcams close to the storms on the right.
Last decent thunderstorm we had was during England v Panama during the World Cup, so I was watching the match through the front window while enjoying the lightning.

Next thunderstorms forecast for Wednesday and Thursday evenings when I'm playing loud things in a windowless recording studio.

 

This network means there is a more than high change that the Class 91 might be included due it's historic workings to Skipton and then down to Doncaster from Leeds, a route it still does now!