Miami Tri Rail To Boca Raton..

Doesnt mean someone else can work on the model if possible(Blacksteinn made the C40-8W model, but HIS edited it for the ATSF pack)

And the old GP40-2 isnt coming back, which is why I asked to make a new one based on the existing GP38-2 model.

 

I'm amazed by the poor view of the BP36PH, but it's like that in real life.

Photo taken right in front.
https://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=556246

 

Did they mention safety systems in the stream. I watched half of it and didn't see anything.

 

I think it is just the alerter and the generic speed cap at 79mph.

 

I only caught a bit of it. The route doesn't look the most interesting in my opinion but I shall find time to watch it in full.

I think they would be better off running the route in sunny weather first time then doing a run with the new weather system. When it turned overcast the route looked flat. Their streams certainly don't do their products justice. I often find watching an ambassador stream shows the route off better.

It looks like it's well made and I like the liveries of the loco and stock.

If the German route looks good then I might buy the deluxe edition, if not I'll just buy the UK route and unit when it's released.

 

Unfortunately, the game's lighting has never looked good in overcast weather, only in clear weather. Shame that the new "lighting enhancements" hasn't really fixed that at all, though considering the Jetwash Lighting mod I have installed (which is quite literally the lighting enhancements for TSW7, but for TSW6 & older) doesn't improve upon that either, seems like it's something that can't really be fixed.

 

So what layers in from new york to trenton

 

Amfleets and an "inspection" train using the Ex Metroliner cabcar.

 

Curious if they means AI traffic for the 2 trains that stop at the Amtrak stop as well.

 

I like how almost none of the questions from the Q&A thread were answered during the stream. What's the point of these threads anyway?
Don't you like unpleasant questions? And if there are no others, then no need to answer?
The main question everyone's asking is: Why Boca Raton? Did you just throw something on the route map with "Where it lands, that's where we'll end up"?

 

Or in Jamie’s curated responses before locking the thread down… Wouldn’t it hurt to answer questions about the night lighting and whether or not we can see big rig trucks on the highways in the AI traffic? (Amongst others).

 

I know right he answered what 6 questions then locked it. Not all of us wanna sit through a 3 hr stream to find answers.

 

DTG have been pretty adamant that there will be no representation of Amtrak here, except for the "track inspection" train.

But.........

I couldn't help but notice in the live stream that there was a layer for the track inspection train, but also a separate layer simply named "Amtrak." Of course there could be a lot of reasons for that to appear. Some more interesting than others.

 

Could be some Amtrak static stock we could see in the sidings while Matt was shunting.

 

Another route without safety systems. SD40 and GP38 trains are being updated – they still lack safety systems. DTG, are you serious? It's 2026, finally, get the safety systems working. What's the point of all this? Such a small detail, but it's the final straw that kills the immersion. This was clearly a sale.

 

For sure you are correct, I tried to watch a lot of the stream but either didn't see that part or didn't notice. I actually do appreciate the inclusion of static stock though. Perhaps I'll spawn an F40 and go with it.

 

Here is an screenshot. The Twitch timestamp is 1:56:44.

 

So, with an open mind I watched the entire live stream yesterday and liked quite a bit of what I saw. The foul weather during the first part was an unfortunate distraction that really diminished the opportunity to show off DTG's work, as well as the typical feel of the South Florida vibe. Once that was worked out, I thought a lot of the route captures a pretty good feel depicting the area. The various station models look good, the on site audio captures add a nice layer of immersion and the variety of activity seems like a good balance where there's something for everyone.

One obvious omission loomed large for me though. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, I was very excited that the Tri-Rail SFRTA route was coming back - this time to TSW. I was stoked to see West Palm Beach in TSW! Finding out the route was ending in Boca Raton left me bewildered and really bummed out. The northern third of this route is where I first caught the "train bug" when I was a kid. Hanging out at the West Palm Beach Seaboard station or up at the Northwood wye watching trains was almost a daily pastime. Still is sometimes! Yesterday seeing all of the timetables originating or terminating at Mangonia Park or West Palm Beach as they actually do and knowing in TSW it begins and ends on that isolated stretch of track near Yamato Road in Boca just made that "what could have been" feeling much stronger. DTG did a really nice job on the south two thirds of the route. As I said in my earlier post, I wanted to keep an open mind on the new route. I'm sure many players will like it, as it looks really good! For me the omission of the West Palm Beach area just looms too large to really enjoy the experience I think. I guess I'll sit this one out for now.

 

Why stop the route in Boca?

 

Has someone explain why this isn't a full route? Also please tell me the MIA air train is a mastery trophy

 

Its the same reason we always get when that happens.
It exceeds the scope of the project / doing more would exceed the budget.

 

Budget? With the prices of these DLC there should be no budget

 

Everything is made to a budget that is how business works.

 

I have been thinking that the reason the full route wasnt made is because ..of the addition of the freight spurs industry branches in the miami airport hialeah area thats coming later on ,matt said in the stream, plus it would prob give the freight hauler mode even more things to do.

 

I rather hoped this would be an evolution of SanFran - SanJose, which IMO is one of the best US experiences we’ve had in TSW.

The ending at Boca Raton is really poor, it’s really stumped the route beyond what’s reasonable IMO.

I think this route was the collateral against the time budget for TSW7, and I fear that it’s because US content is so low down on DTG’s interest scale. Both UK & Germany have had multiple DLCs that cross others & whilst yes that’s harder for US, there are still several options which IMO there isn’t a good reason to not have been included yet. Ditto for safety systems being absent on pretty much every US route outside of NEC.

The trains did look good & I really liked the liveries on all of them, just a shame there isn’t more passion put into the US side of things the decision making level of development.

 

Don't forget that a lot of the UK and German routes are made by third party developers.

 

Indeed, but apart from TSW6 where DTG was essentially absent across all counties on the DLC front, even having a second US route for the yearly title is what I’d consider a ‘busy year’ for NA content.

 

Absolutely. Juggling resource allocation on projects is the biggest challenge of managing a profitable and sustainable business. It's not an empty, rubber stamp answer to say there are restraints on what they will allocate to each project. They want to satisfy a broad base of customers(revenue) with the limited resources available(expenses) in the most efficient manner they can(profit). It's economics 101.

Specifically on this route, I think they did an overall fabulous job! Think about it for a moment. Just getting the license to use Tri-Rail branding took years of work. Negotiating, legal documents, meetings, it's a long arduous process. Then they were provided on site access to Tri-Rail equipment and personnel to gather assets for this project. That's all before the first click of the mouse to begin the layout. I think you get the idea..... I could go on for paragraphs.

Myself and maybe a handful of others are the outliers here. I have very detailed local knowledge and ties to the region. For most, it's a superb route and I would encourage you to purchase it and enjoy! For those that long for the West Palm Beach connection like me, I hope from a business standpoint they utilize every last resource they invested in this project to the fullest. There is future revenue in the Tri-Rail brand if they decide to use it. Why wouldn't they? It's low hanging fruit!

 

Unfortunately route masteries are dead...

 

What an unfortunate business decision. Its like going to a restaurant and being served 3/4's of your dinner because of budget or time constraints. I would have gladly waited longer for them to complete the route completely, and I would imagine the negative reviews forthcoming will cost more than it was worth.

 

I hear you! I'm the last one that you would expect to be singing DTG praises on this decision. I'm very disappointed with it even if I understand it. Time will tell if they made a good choice. If the northern third of the route is important to enough people, they may act on that with a future product or update. The best way to communicate that sentiment is with the discussions we have here and of course with our money.

 

Is the gp49 used for passenger or freight.