Locomotive Proposal: Br Class 139/br Class 999

Discussion in 'Loco Suggestions & Proposals' started by 52_Western, Jan 19, 2018.

  1. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    [​IMG]
    Parry People Movers Nº 35 at Wirksworth
    (image source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parry_People_Movers)

    What is it?
    The Class 139 is a class of British mini-railcars, built in 2008 for them to run on the Stourbridge Town Branch Line. There was also a prototype, called Class 999.

    [​IMG]
    A Class 139 on display, sitting on top of a flatbed hauled by a Scania truck, 50033 can be seen in the background, in the BR Blue Large Logo livery.
    (image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_139)

    More Information:
    With the prototype Class 999, three of the class were built.
    London Midland are using them. Parry People Movers are thought to have intended to use a variation of the PPM60 model, called the PPM220, to bid for the contract to build a small fleet of experimental trains for use on the Penistone Line, and for the new generation diesel multiple units, intended as part of the Government's rolling stock plan. This will involve an articulated unit, with a pair of PPM60s on either end of a fixed passenger unit. The whole unit will have a capacity of up to 220 passengers and will be able to travel 60mph (100km/h) on railways and 50mph (80km/h) on tramways. The Penistone trial was however canceled, before a bidder was selected, and was replaced with an electric Rotherham-Sheffield trial, in September 2009.

    [​IMG]
    Inside a London Midland Class 139 rail-bus.
    (image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_139)

    What does it run on?
    It doesn't run on on diesel fuel, but on LPG. The unit uses a flywheel energy storage to recapture and supply the motive force for moving the vehicle. The concept is simple; the flywheel captures the vehicle's kinetic energy when brakes are used, and re-uses the energy for acceleration. The small engine is used to provide the flywheel and all other onboard systems electricity.

    [​IMG]
    Class 999 Prototype seen approaching Stourbridge Town.
    (image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_139)

    Why for Train Simulator?
    Even though the Stourbridge Town Branch Line isn't in Train Simulator, I would enjoy driving it around any UK-themed map. I think this small railcar should definitely be made for Train Simulator. ■

    Thanks for reading!

    Disclaimer: I do not own any of the media shown here, nor do I claim to. All media belongs to their rightful owners. I just put them in here for illustration purposes.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2018
    • Like Like x 2
  2. Corvan

    Corvan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2017
    Messages:
    527
    Likes Received:
    734
    That thing makes a Pacer look pretty. :P
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    I don't dislike any trains. But sure, everyone can post their opinion in here.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2018
  4. Corvan

    Corvan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2017
    Messages:
    527
    Likes Received:
    734
    Don't get me wrong; I'm not advocating against it going into the game; every train deserves its place in the sim. I just think it's ugly but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    I 100% agree with you. :)
     
  6. ThePurpleWind

    ThePurpleWind New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    14
    The Stourbridge line would work well as a £9.99 add-on in a similar vein to Corris to be honest.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  7. Stig

    Stig New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    17
    Holy moly, this is cute!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    Sure is!
     
  9. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    It would be quite cool, IMO!
     
  10. PlatChap

    PlatChap Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2017
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    509
    Well this is new to me. Good information in the post! I wouldn't mind taking one for a test drive.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    Me neither!
     
  12. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    Who "wouldn't", and why? Honestly, why would you not want to see this in TS??
    I'm generally clueless.
     
  13. Overland

    Overland New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2018
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    14
    ive seen these things before, but that first picture for quite a while had my brain ticking over thinking. why is a hover bus on train simulator forum.. then I noticed the rails
    it'd be a nice route for class 121 or 03.. not exactly fond of the railbuses themselves but the route would be great.. them irish railbuses ones are closer to my heart
     
    • Like Like x 2
  14. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    Hover bus... that'd be difficult to recreate in TS!
    Yeah, but the 121 and 03 are already in TS. Irish railbuses, you mean something like this?
    Well, it's just I would like to see the 139 and/or Stourbridge Town Line. :)
     
  15. Dai Tsukishiro

    Dai Tsukishiro New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    2
    but wouldnt need an entirely different route to its self
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    Of course, to achieve 100% authenticity, the Stourbridge Town Line would also need to be made, but I wouldn't mind just driving it on the Trent Valley route (if I owned it), as both the 350 and the 139 are London Midland.
     
  17. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    8,421
    Likes Received:
    2,675
    Seems a bit excessive for a 1 mile line with no points or crossings - journey time is 3 mins - Scenario Over :D
     
  18. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    £4.99, then. Also, I think it's all about the atmosphere, and what you link with the line.
    If I lived in Stourbridge, and I'd see these trains run every day, I'd be delighted if this route would actually be made for TS, no matter what the duration of it is. :)
     
  19. cooltoyn

    cooltoyn Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2019
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    9
    This should be on train simulator 2020 I have been on this twice now first was in 2015 and now in 2020 I think this go ahead after all it will just be a simple line and not long to do.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    8,421
    Likes Received:
    2,675
    So you get in you train, take the brakes off, go to the next station and that is it - scenario over.
    What do you do then?
    The trains don't work on the mainline so there is nowhere for your train to go
    If would cost a huge amount of money to develop the route and train for very little return.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  21. dunkrez

    dunkrez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    1,462
    Likes Received:
    1,679
    I think it would be a nice addition for a very small price, maybe £7.99.

    There are a lot of odd little railways dotted around both now and historically that would be nice to see in TS.

    Narrow gauge, and tramways are really lacking in content.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  22. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    8,421
    Likes Received:
    2,675
    The Corris railway was £9.99 so it might come out that cheap but don't hold your breath
     
    • Like Like x 1
  23. DTG Jamie

    DTG Jamie Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2020
    Messages:
    1,426
    Likes Received:
    5,354
    Nice suggestion 52_Western, have been on one of them great fun and so different, what do you like about the class 139?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  24. Class43Harrison

    Class43Harrison Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2020
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    36
    Hi Jamie, I like the 139. It would be so cool! Its quirky, unique and original, and would add a great laugh and many hours of more fun to the sim, just because it is different. :-D
     
    • Like Like x 1
  25. Class43Harrison

    Class43Harrison Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2020
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    36
    Yeah :-D Probably £3.99 / £4.50 would be a bit better. £4.99 at a push
     
    • Like Like x 1
  26. Class43Harrison

    Class43Harrison Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2020
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    36
    Maybe a freeware route and a £2.00 139 Parry People Mover
     
    • Like Like x 1
  27. 52_Western

    52_Western Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2018
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    216
    Only just now saw your post!
    Well, I'm glad you like the suggestion.
    I've never seen the 139 in real life, I've only ever seen pictures and videos of it online.
    What I like about it is just how unique it is. It's so small, it's basically an Optare Solo midibus, but on rails! I honestly think it's brilliant.
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2021
    • Like Like x 2
  28. NEC Railfan

    NEC Railfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2020
    Messages:
    976
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    This would be cool if it was part of a greater route, like a small thing you can do a scenario or two for.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  29. Class43Harrison

    Class43Harrison Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2020
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    36
    Yeah agreed
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page