Roadmap Update - 23rd February 2021

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  1. DTG Natster

    DTG Natster Producer Staff Member

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  2. Shaun123

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    Cathcart Circle?! Now we’re talking, that’s something very different and unexpected!
     
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  3. FD1003

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    How come the Class 313 was moved from "In production" to "in planning"? Did you start creating it and then decided it wasn't worth doing anymore?

    It has been in production since the 29/09 roadmap update
     
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  4. HamioSamio098

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    Cathcart Circle!!!!!!! Finally a Scottish Route!!!
    Yes, I did over do it on the exclamation points but still...

    Edit: I know this route won't be hitting shelves till like what, June or so but will the Newton and Neilston Lines also be included?
     
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  5. Horizelux

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    Glad to see more regions being added!
     
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  6. shbrocrafter

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    what’s the reason for the class 313 being back in the ‘in planning’ section??
     
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  7. isaac47593

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    Cathcart Circle will be a fab route!!!
     
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  8. ZeenozPlays

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    Nice to see the Roadmap back in full force. I was happy to see that the Speed Limits on the BKL will be fixed, and that LIRR will get sound fixes.

    I’m a bit disappointed that the extra services for the BKL were taken off, but they made it up with the new route GLASGOW CATHCART CIRCLE!

    I really hope they give us all of the Rolling Stock for it. At least give us the 314, 320, and 385
     
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  9. Mattty May

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    I wonder what rolling stock we’ll get with Cathcart Circle.
     
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  10. JonnE

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    Honestly I don't spot that much difference to previous roadmaps considering the amount of explanations last time :D

    Does the removal of the crashes on SKA mean that it's actually working now?
    On consoles? Without crashing?
     
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  11. Northerner

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    Great to see that the Cathcart Circle is coming and already in production. Was hoping for some new content to be added and I'm not disappointed!
     
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  12. Mattty May

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    What is the loco add on from Rivet? Standard 1938 Tube Stock? Thought we already had this, the 483?
     
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  13. tallboy7648

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    Well this roadmap is intresting. New Route announced is the Glasgow Cathcart Circle.. Usually dtg would have what train would run on that route in the roadmap but I guess not this time. I am glad the lirr is still getting worked on but it's a shame that we won't be getting the expanded Bakerloo line timetable but it's not a total suprise. Maybe they could've added at least 2-4 extra services.
     
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  14. DTG Protagonist

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    Checking on the 313 now - I wasn't aware it had slipped backward.
     
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    It could be the 483 but in red? Seems kinda strange to have that train in the roadmap as a loco add on
     
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  16. ZeenozPlays

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    I suspect we’ll get the 314 and 385, but I’m also hoping for the 320.
     
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  17. WonterRail

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    Key points for me from this roadmap.

    1. Two new route/Loco Add-ons have been added for this roadmap:
    • [Loco Add-On] GCC-L6 01 - Standard 1938 Tube Stock - Developed by Rivet Games (Probably for the Bakerloo Line)
    • [Route Add-On] GBB-L7 01 - Glasgow Cathcart Circle (First Scottish route in TSW, presumably this is network of lines that run from Glasgow Central, via places such as Mount Florida, Cathcart and Shawlands to Neilston and Newton. Now word on what locos are coming with it yet.)
    2. The 465 is in next arrival, plus both Clinchfield and the GW 1970's pack are now in upcoming, the later now has an official title plus it's production codes:
    • [Loco Add-On] GGF-E5 01 - Diesel Legends of the Great Western
    3. Bakerloo Line timetable expansion isn't happening for now. Pretty much expected, but I hope it will come back once we have had a few core updates (and before anyone asks me, yes I am now going to do a service mode timetable for Bakerloo Line now the confirmation has come through that the timetable expansion isn't coming for a while now).
     
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  18. ZeenozPlays

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    Maybe a Historic BKL Route to go along with it?
     
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  19. AndrewWhite96

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    Ideally it should be a class 314 and class 320.
     
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  20. 4-COR

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    What’s with the “Standard 1938 stock”? I’m assuming they don’t mean standard tube stock, as that’s about a decade older, but are they really going to charge £12 for literally a single new coach and a repaint? Let’s hope the sounds will be better...
     
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  21. HamioSamio098

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    I did a quick wikipedia check and there was no sight of the Standard 1938 Stock, But there was the Standard 'pre 1938' stock which was also used on the IoW so I suspect it will be this.
     
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  22. tallboy7648

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    After doing reasearch on that route, I think that's a route I'll get if it comes with the 385
     
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  23. met_cui98

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    Maybe it's because this is the first 'new' roadmap, but it would be nice if future ones brought back the up/down arrows and stars to indicate changes from the previous roadmap.
     
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  24. helderbrincolas

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    Go to see a new country being added to the game(Scotland), the route feels interesting and let's see what trains we get with the route. I was hoping for more routes to be showned at planning. I don't get the 1938 stock Loco addon, ridiculous.
     
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  25. Chiltern Railways

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    What is coming with the 'Cathcart Circle Line'?
     
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    With Route are the 1938 Tube Stock?
     
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  27. Northerner

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    Well at the moment we only have the two driving cars for the 1938 stock, so I'm guessing the new add on will be the full length train, with trailer cars, as it was in London Underground days.
     
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  28. tallboy7648

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    $20 dollars for a repainted train with a slightly different interior. Seems like a total ripoff so no thanks rivet. Rivet seems to be on the historic train run since all the drains they have made for this game are old
     
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  29. AndrewWhite96

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    Im fully expecting this to be the route we get not just half but not getting hopes up yet.
     
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  30. ZeenozPlays

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    I’d get the route even if it only had the 314. I love the 313, 314, 315 and 317.
     
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    I’d get it, just cuz it’s the Underground. It does make me wonder though, why couldn’t it just be layered onto the BKL with a new livery?
     
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    With only 21 Stations, I’d expect them to add the whole route.
     
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  33. tallboy7648

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    I hope it's the full line and not part of the line
     
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  34. mldaureol2

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    Yes !!.
    At last and Finally a Scottish route and one I grew up with.
    Hopefully we will get a class 303 as an add on in the future.
    I wonder how Glasgow Central will look in the game, not too dead I should hope.
    Mike.
     
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  35. tallboy7648

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    Yeh if you own iow, they could just add a new livery and layer it on bkl. It doesn't make sense to charge $20 for what will effectively be the same train.
     
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  36. helderbrincolas

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    I'm hoping for a full route for a change! And it seems we will finally get a full network commuter route!
     
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  37. AtherianKing

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    What’s happening with the SKA crashes I still experience them on Xbox Series X?, they prevent my last ICE timetable service being completed.
     
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  38. samuelsampowersamuel

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    Are you doing the circular release schedule. I.E: Germany, then perhaps UK etc or has this been changed. Are we getting routes based on when they are ready as opposed to a country based rotation.
     
  39. ZeenozPlays

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    If it sells well, maybe it could show DTG that a lot of the community wants a Full route or system, and they’ll start doing more routes like this.
     
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  40. tallboy7648

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    They still haven't fixed that issue on the xbox series x which is getting annoying at this point. The only way to get to Koln HBF without the game crashing is to crawl at 40kph before going under the s-bahn bridge approaching koln hbf and being outside following the train after you pass the s-bahn station before koln hbf.
     
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  41. samuelsampowersamuel

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    What was the inspiration for choosing the Glasgow cathart circular line. Was it based off community suggestions or internal based suggestions.

    Do staff also have a say in what comes as well as fans?
     
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    The 1938 stock is not the Class 483. Not quite.

    Class 483 was a train made by adapting 1938 stock specifically for Isle of Wight. The 1938 stock was used on the Bakerloo line before the 1972 stock we have in the game now.
     
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    They'll be back next time. Wanted to reset the list this time out.

    Also, the 313 is still in production. The article will be adjusted in a few minutes.
     
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  44. ZeenozPlays

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    Thanks for the info. I’m looking forward to seeing a 313 article soon... hopefully.
     
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  45. Rudolf

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    Never heard of this one (sorry I am not Scottish). Can anyone explain why we should be excited on this route?
     
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    So you changed the name of the 1970 western pack for some reason (probably to make it sound better than it actually is ). Require 3-4 core updates before you can add more services to Bakerloo line so old consoles can run it . No mention of scenario planner improvements. 313 been put back. 465 releasing very soon. New route Glasgow route but is that using 1938 tube stock.
     
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  47. UnlimitedMagic

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    What is GGF-E5-01
     
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    Hi,
    Well the Cathcart Circle should be a self contained route.
    Mike.
     
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    The route and loco codes are a bit wonky I think, could do with another pass. Interesting to see Glasgow Cathcart Circle, wonder what era it will be depicted in?
     
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    Thanks for information

    Did an ICE service on SKA yesterday (it was one starting around 17:00) and didn't crash approaching Köln on X-SX, I have all layers active.

    Actually I never experienced a crash on Series X on SKA.

    Edit: I apologize, I quoted the wrong message *facepalm
     
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