I just tried out the MRCE 185 on the route out of Wuppertal on oil tanks and it was incapable of pulling anything, I first noticed it started off really slow but after a while I ended up getting to the hill at mile post 136.2 and stalled despite being in the full power position. There is not enough power to start moving and there is no way continue. How can I get this to work without stalling?
If the problem is with the Petroleum scenario it currently has a bug in the instructions flow. After train stops due to the failure you need to release the emergency mushroom button (on the left side) before rising panto and closing circuit breaker or you won´t be able to complete the task and get power on the leading loco again. This button action is missing in the instructions but is the one used in game to simulate the emergency brakes application due to the panto failure. If you didn´t realize that main circuit braker was left open on the front engine you are just having one locomotive power available, which is almost impossible to start such a heavy train on the slope. Check the left display to monitor the status of catenary voltage and panto always in case of doubts. Cheers
It is on a normal timetabled run rather than a scenario but it is not as if there is no power at all but it feels like it has the power of a 300 BHP railcar pulling the same load rather than a heavy locomotive, the power gauge is showing it is at full throttle but it can barely move.
I know exactly what you mean, I can’t get up the hill from Hagen in any rain or snow on a freight timetable service with the MRCE 185. It barely makes it in the dry
How many tons are you hauling? Indeed that slope is not easy for freight, even if it looks like a bed of roses for the regionals. Check the tonnage in the Escape menu and also the slope percentage value in the HUD. You will see that it´s a hard combination. Cheers
Even if it was a hard combination, if they make these services available, especially since it is a loco from the same route, it should be able to get that service done under any weather conditions, right? I struggled with this hill at Ennepetal as well several times, and nothing seems to help, like sand or adapting throttle.
The locomotive has sufficient power, but it slips. I tried to climb the hill in the rain and too much slip did not allow us to give more power. Another locomotive would be needed. An option could be made to call an auxiliary locomotive if you get stuck on a hill. It would work like a push in the MSB. In fact, two auxiliary locomotives served at MSB.
Its a known issue. Its the Petroleum service from Hagen to Wuppertal-Langerfel(I guess). You need to bring loaded Zacns tanks to Wuppertal-Langerfeld(I guess), but due to if you put the power to 80% or higher, it slips. So you can't get enough power to get over the gradient on the mainline.
Yeah, if its Journey Mode: Petroleum – Hagen Freight Yard > Wuppertal-Langerfeld Yard, then it is indeed broken. But if you try this service from service mode with dry weather, then it is an easy ride. So it must be problem with traction here - too slippery in Journey mode. I made a ticket for this issue back in December and support accepted it for further work, so its currently somewhere in the large pile of "under investigation" by DTG I guess P.S. and I was able to complete it by the way - but only when you uncouple 3-4 cars from the start ))
In journey mode it's really hard, I ve done it by first rolling backwards to the end of Hagen Yard, switch off pzb, throttle not more than 60%, ignoriert the speed limits at Hagen Hbf, when you are on the ramp, watch the kN-Display,, everytime it decreases, raise the power lever about 1 or 2 % to keep the kN up to 46 to 48, I think. In timetable mode it's better to replace the 185 with a strenger loco, the 182 for example, you will see, that the 182 completely deserves it's austrian name "Taurus".
The 155 also gets the job done even with the slippery track. The wheel real fine controls are a joy, so it's really satisfying to sub for the 155 if you own it.
Wait what? I failed that once in the 155 with snowy tracks! Does it have special controls that you can activate to help you get up the mountain?
If you crank up the traction effect dial, on the right side of the desk i think, the 155 breezes up the slope out of Hagen.
Yeah same gonna test that out today, thanks for the tip! I played with that dial just for fun all the time but when it actually might come in handy I even forget it exists
Not all the time you can go full power with a european freight train without having wheel slip, even on a flat gradient, unless the engine itself is heavy as hell. Horsepower is important but it´s not the only thing. If the engine is too light it will be hard for it to pull loaded wagons unless you increase speed really slowly. American engines are usually heavier and for them it´s easier. But pulling them hard could also break the couplers on the consist. Also they need to deal with longer trains (therefore heavier too) while in europe the average service is usually shorter than 500m, so we don´t need monster locomotives for them. Cheers
I managed to drive that long hill in the rain with the DB BR 155 locomotive. I had to get 315kN from this locomotive. It is a pity that we do not have 155 at MSB in banking services.
