More Variety Of Tracks And Track Foliage/weeds Needed

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by londonmidland, May 25, 2021.

  1. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    19,170
    One area of TSW I think massively suffers from is the lack of variety when it comes to track visuals, as well as the lack of track foliage.

    The wrong types of tracks are often placed in yards too. Most of the time it is pristine continuous welded track, when it should be jointed track, with a mixed of used and rusty variants. The rusty variants should have weeds growing through them too.

    Yards in particular always look so pristine, clean and identical looking, when in real life they are very much battered and full of weeds. Talking of weeds, why are DTG always so reluctant to add them in between tracks as well as on the tracks themselves, for lines which are little used? Ironically they over compensate by placing too many lineside trees next to well used lines, to mask the lack of scenery.

    Below shows the big issue with the way yards are built and look in TSW:

    B6A56D8A-5468-4C4E-AD89-F453EA8C67CB.jpg
     
    • Like Like x 38
  2. breblimator

    breblimator Guest

    A fair point, no doubt \o/
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2016
    Messages:
    3,791
    Likes Received:
    4,411
    Take a look at today's article. 2 colors of ballast used.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  4. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    6,673
    Likes Received:
    14,653
    TS1 has separate tracks for yards, often oily and dirty so I cannot see why the same cannot apply to TSW.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    3,114
    Likes Received:
    5,112
    I agree, and it's especially noticable when yards are completely void of any trains.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2019
    Messages:
    2,614
    Likes Received:
    8,046
    It's funny that yard tracks that are often overgrown have little to no foliage, but when running mainline, you can frequently see grass overreaching into the track, branches going through the cab etc. Agreed that there need to be more types of track textures (even more than two). With a colourful palette, the track would be greatly enhanced, even on frequently used tracks the colour is not the same throughout as you have replaced sleepers, wooden sleepers on overpasses, etc.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  7. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    19,170
    This is especially apparent on SEHS. You’ve actually got trees and foliage blocking signals and speed boards on the mainline, whereas yards are virtually spotless and empty.

    I do wonder if the person(s) who lays the scenery actually knows what it’s supposed to look like, or whether they just spam the lineside with trees…
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Inkar

    Inkar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2016
    Messages:
    1,669
    Likes Received:
    2,744
    It might no have been a person. Maybe it was part of the scenery added by the autogeneration tool.
     
  9. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    19,170
    That’s true, I forgot about that. Perhaps there should be some inspections after the auto-gen has done its job, to prevent things like this from happening.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. breblimator

    breblimator Guest

    In Poland is pretty greeny in yards. My town's small yard is true green hell too.
    Here, an example, plus, an extraordinarily rare train with EU07 (year of production: 1983!) leading the whole intermodal party \o/

     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 27, 2021
    • Like Like x 6
  11. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2018
    Messages:
    2,346
    Likes Received:
    5,449
    Totally agree, especially track rust, battered rails, ballast etc.

    I'd suspect that tall weeds might be somewhat "expensive" as far as the performance budget goes, especially since they'd look weird if not animated, also maybe issues with clipping into the vehicles as mentioned above.

    Hope the UE update and eventual move to next-gen consoles will allow for more of this because it really does add a ton of atmosphere and immersion.

    Edit: there was a mention in today's article about "superelevated junctions"- maybe whatever technique is being used for that could help with yards appearing to be so flat and uniform? IRL there are often many little dips and rises throughout a yard from the ground settling. Maybe TSW's invisible MOW crews have an unlimited budget to keep everything so pristine lol
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2021
    • Like Like x 2
  12. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    3,114
    Likes Received:
    5,112
    While playing SEHS last night, I noticed many shrubs being so close to the third rail, that they're actually touching the third rail. Can't be safe, can it?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. martschuffing

    martschuffing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2020
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    750
    Don't get me started on buildings either, why they don't do some research and supply country-specific housing for example instead of using brit buildings in European countries, shatters the illusion for me does that. Germany as an example suffers from this generic type of architecture that isn't even Germanic, landmark stuff is fine but not housing, I took a video of me playing on the main spessart on my phone, I was riding on the top deck of a dostos, I sent the vid to my sister and said "where am I" bearing in mind that she has been to Germany many times as have I, she replied that she didn't know because she didn't recognise the buildings!
    As for veg totally agree.
     
  14. davidh0501

    davidh0501 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,140
    Likes Received:
    1,643
    Hah Hedges are my bugbear.
    Move past them at speed and you have an annoyingly repetitive pattern.
    A little more variety in shape and colour please.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    19,170
    Yes, I’ve noticed on quite a few occasions on SEHS that the foliage is far too close to the tracks. I reckon this is because of auto-gen and it hasn’t been properly checked.
     
  16. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    3,524
    Likes Received:
    19,170
    I hate this too. The same goes for the repetitive trees. It really narrows your view out of the window, as they put more trees than they should to hide the emptiness of the world.
     
  17. Redbus

    Redbus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,494
    Likes Received:
    3,152
    I would say the biggest elephant in the room is the missing trackside paraphernalia, such as cabling and concrete trunking. There are occasional grey location (S&T) boxes some of which are collectables, but generally things are too pristine and tidy which does reduce the immersion somewhat.

    The track on cane creek looks like it just rolled off the production line, but hopefully they will dirty it up.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2021
    • Like Like x 2
  18. Quentin

    Quentin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    532
    Likes Received:
    537
    When I toured Poland by train in 2014, it seemed every other loco was an EU07. I'm surprised to learn they're now rarities.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. breblimator

    breblimator Guest

    This one is super special. A kind of Heritage livery :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2018
    Messages:
    2,346
    Likes Received:
    5,449
    Totally agree.

    Hope so too with Cane Creek- they've done weathering on the locos and rolling stock- seems like the trackage always gets forgotten.
     

Share This Page