Wcml South: Euston - Milton Keynes And St Albans

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  1. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Introduction
    The West Coast Mainline (WCML) is one of Great Britain's busiest and most important lines, connecting large cities such as Glasgow, Edinburgh, London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester and more.
    The route I am suggesting today sees the line between London Euston and Milton Keynes Central/St. Albans Abbey.

    Experience the West Coast Mainline, Britain's InterCity network connecting London, Glasgow, Manchester, Liverpool and more, with Commuter services in and out of the Capital, in Train Sim World 2: West Coast Mainline South.

    Rolling Stock Hold on a minute...
    In fact, let's pause for a second.
    I know what your thinking. Well, in TS' WCML:S it was London Midland & Avanti because of the licenses so what are you going to do about that?
    The honest awnser: nothing.
    If we backdate it to LM/VTWC the Virgin License is the issue, and if you make it LNWR(WMR)/AWC the LNWR/WMR license becomes an issue.
    So I'm setting this route in 2020 (January) just after Avanti Started.
    Now, back to the suggestion.

    Rolling Stock
    Included:
    Class 350 (LM, Mainline, Abbey Line)
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    Class 390 'Pendolino' (AWC, Mainline)
    1280px-Avanti_West_Coast_Pendolino_7.20.jpg
    Class 710 'Aventra' (LO, Watford DC)
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    Included (Lower Priority, potential DLC):
    Class 319 (LM, Swaps in on Abbey Line)

    London_Midland_319216_at_St_Albans_Abbey.jpg

    Potential DLC:
    Class 221 'Voyager' (Avanti)
    Bombardier-Voyager-Class221_AWC_Railcolor-News_9100-600x600.jpg

    Classes 86 & 87, ('West Coast Heavy Freight')

    Adds extra/subs into Freight services, works with Class 66.

    Class 325 (Mail Train)
    Operates Mail Freight services across Britain.

    Layers (IN)

    1972 Tube Stock (Base Game: Bakerloo Line)

    Layers in for all players from London Underground Bakerloo Line, AI Services along Watford DC line*

    Class 377/2** (East Coastway, Rush Hour: Brighton Mainline)
    This train would require the addition of a pantograph (among any other changes) and would operate services to/from Milton Keynes, leaving shortly before Queens Park station.

    Class 66 (East Coastway, Great Western Express)
    Operates Freight services on the line.
    Not much else to say.

    Class 08 (NTP(HF), TVL, DLGW)
    Shunting

    (Modified) Class 43 HST (Great Western Express)
    Modified from GWE version to represent the Network Rail New Measurement Train (NMT)

    Layers (OUT)

    The Class 377/2 could see services on Brighton Mainline between Clapham Junction and East Croydon.

    The Class 390 'Pendolino' and Class 221 'Voyager' could layer as A.I. Services on Glasgow Cathcart Circle at Newton and Glasgow Central Stations.

    The Class 319 could be re-used on Brighton Mainline as First Capital Connect services (avoiding Thameslink (modern) because licensing). (Drivable & A.I).

    And of course, all Included trains would add AI Layers* onto the Bakerloo Line.

    *710/'72 stock Layers both have potential for driveability.

    The Route itself
    LO = London Overground | LU = London Underground
    AWC = Avanti West Coast | LM = London Midland

    SR = Southern Rail

    Stations
    Mainline: London - Watford (17 Miles)

    London Euston (LO, AWC, LM)

    South Hampstead (LO)
    Kilburn High Road (LO (Rare LU))
    Queens Park (LO, LU)
    Kensal Green (LO, LU)
    Willesden Jcn. (LO, LU)
    Harlesden (LO, LU)
    Stonebridge Park (LO, LU)
    Wembley Central (LO, LU, LM, SR)
    North Wembley (LO, LU)
    South Kenton (LO, LU)
    Kenton (LO, LU)
    Harrow & Wealdstone (LO, LU, LM, SR)
    Headstone Lane (LO)
    Hatch End (LO)
    Carpenders Park (LO)
    Bushey (LO, LM)
    Watford High Street (LO)
    Watford Junction (LO, LM, AWC, SR)

    Mainline: Watford - Milton Keynes (33 Miles)
    Watford Junction (LO, LM, AWC, SR)

    Kings Langley (LM)
    Apsley (LM)
    Hemel Hampstead (LM, SR)
    Berkhamsted (LM)
    Tring (LM, SR)
    Cheddington (LM)
    Leighton Buzzard (LM, SR)
    Bletchley (LM, SR)
    Milton Keynes Central (LM, AWC, SR)

    Abbey Line (Watford Jcn. - St Albans Abbey) (6 Miles)

    Watford Junction (LO, LM, AWC, SR)

    Watford North (LM)
    Garston (LM)
    Bricket Wood (LM)
    How Wood (LM)
    Park Street (LM)
    St. Albans Abbey (LM)

    Entire Line: 56 Miles/34 Stations

    Services

    London Midland
    • 2tph London Eus - Tring (Calling All LM Stations, 1tph Skipping Wembley Central) (Class 350/319)
    • 1tph London Eus - Milton Keynes Central (Calling at Watford Jcn, Hemel Hamp, Berkhamsted, Tring, Cheddington, L. Buzzard, Bletchley, MK Cent.) (Class 350/319)
    • 3tph London Eus - Birmingham N.St.* (Same Stops as above) (Class 350/319)
    • 1tph London Eus - Crewe* (Milton Keynes Only) (Class 350)
    Avanti West Coast
    • 1tph London Eus - Birmingham N.St.* (Calling Watford Jcn. & Milton Keynes) (Class 390/221)
    • 2tpd London Eus - Shrewsbury* (Watford Jcn, only.) (Class 221)
    • 1tph Lon Euston - Manc Picc via Stoke* (Calling at Milton Keynes. (Some peak trains serve Watford Jcn) (Class 390)
    • 1tph Lon Euston - Manc Picc via Crewe* (Limited stops at Milton Keynes. For services not stopping at Milton Keynes they are AI ONLY) (Class 390)
    • 1tph Euston - Liverpool Lime* (Calling at Milton Keynes, Some peak trains serve Watford Jcn) (Class 390)
    • 1tph Euston - Glasgow Cent.* (2-3tpd calling at Milton Keynes. All other trains AI ONLY) (Class 390/221)
    • 1tph Euston - Edinburgh* (Alternating Destinations) (Calling at Milton Keynes Central) (Class 390/221)
    • 2tpd Euston - Blackpool N.* (Calling at Milton Keynes) (Class 390/221)
    • 1tph Euston - Crewe* (Calling at Milton Keynes) (Class 390)
    Southern
    • 1tph East Croydon** - Milton Keynes Central (Calling all 'SR' Stations) (Class 377)
    London Overground
    • 4tph London Euston - Watford Junction (Calling all 'LO' Stations) (Class 710)
    London Underground
    • See Bakerloo Line
    Legend:
    * = Ends at Milton Keynes in game
    ** = Ends at Wembley Central

    Freight
    There is also Freight on this line, including regular freight to Nuclear materials and Mail.
    The Classes 66, 86, 87 and 325 would operate these.

    Other
    The Class 08 Shunter operates on this line.

    Recap:
    Included Rolling Stock: Class 390, Class 350, Class 710
    Layers (In): 1972 Tube Stock, Class 377
    Potential DLC: Class 319, Class 221

    The route has 34 Stations across 56 Miles, with High-Speed operation alongside Commuters.

    'Rapid Transit' style operation? Yes: Bakerloo Line & Watford DC*
    Commuter? Yes, Watford DC* and London Midland services
    High-Speed? Yep, Avanteeeeeee- I mean Avanti West Coast ;)
    Freight? Yep.

    *Bit of both

    Final Words
    I know the LM/AWC thing will frustrate a few people however there aren't many better ways of doing this.
    So why this route?
    Well it's about time the WCML showed up, and now is the right time following the release of the first fully OHLE route from the UK.
    As for my personal choice of this route, yesterday (Sat 19 Jun, 2021) I was on My way from London back north to Scotland and for the first time I was on the line between Euston and Crewe (that's the furthest south I had got before) so I'm straight off that experience.

    And, yes, I know there is freight on the line, but I can't be bothered to find that information, the WCML is passenger centered after all.
    Oh, and you may notice this looks slightly different go my usual suggestions. I decided to ditch my old format and write this as I go along.

    Thanks for reading as always.
    Thank you to emperordogv & ARuscoe for information on the Freight on the line.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2021
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  2. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Just went ahead and made this map up for the route. Untitled19.jpg
     
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  3. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent Idea and for the Watford DC Line section of WCML it can be linked to Bakerloo Line. Better Yet sell WCML with Bakerloo Line as Elephant and Castle to Milton Keynes route. The combined bundle distance wise is 70 mi 110 km/h which is Milton Keynes to Elephant and Castle tops out Riesa-Dresden 65 mi 105 km.
     
  4. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    I doubt they could make a pack including BKL because, well, it's a base game route but if they did they could call it the City to Suburb (C2S) pack.
     
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  5. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    That's what I was thinking of and also BML with West London Line with WCML as South Coast to the midlands pack. For sister game train Sim 21 some routes are sold as a bundle.
     
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  6. creeperblox2710

    creeperblox2710 Well-Known Member

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    A BIG Yes for me! Especially because of the St Albans Abbey Line and the Aventra.
     
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  7. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Feel like I should say this before I forget - if anyone has information about freight on this section (trains, wagons, the operations, yards etc.) and they feel like sharing just let me know, it would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  8. emperordogv

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    I don't have any written sources, but I have frequently seen Class 66, and the occasional class 86/87 running empty stock moving of the Caledonian Sleeper. Though from what I have read the class 86/87 have now been withdrawn, and from memory there is a Class 08 at Stonebridge, as well as various trains being kept in siding near Willesden.
     
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  9. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Added the Freight Locos into the suggestion. Thanks emperordogv
     
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  10. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    This is the Realtime trains listing for freight services through Wembley Central for all of today (21/06/21)
    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...6-21/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=freight&order=wtt
    56 services just today
    Loads of multimodal freight, a few network rail moves, a couple of mail trains (class 325), quite a few ECS moves (including 5Q81, a 66 hauling 2 x 73s), a nuclear flask move (0208 Crewe - Dungeness) and freight from 75mph to 45mph max
     
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