Tilting Train Future List And Speculation

The new german route has really blown me away especially with the new tilting technology, and I am so excited to get it next week. Now that the team can do tilting train, which route would you like to see?

For me, I really want to see all Amtrak Acela, Maglev Train, and of course the high-speed train which is the Shinkansen, along with other Tilting Train in the world such as Pendolino

 

I think we'll see an ICE-T loco DLC for Dresden & Acela for Boston in 2022.

I would also love to see either a UK Pendo or a super voyager released for the UK but we'd need a suitable route for it releasing.

Unless a TP releases a Japanese route I don't think we'll see one in 2022 as I suspect they'll be too busy with age of steam.

 

There is plenty of options, also for UK:

 

If we get a Pendolino or an ATP-P we also need a high speed line with sharp curves to make the most of tilting, and most WCML sections are either an awkward length or need more than two new train types built for them to get an adequate coverage of services, and that's not even including freight.

So we probably won't see one anytime soon, at least not until we get a few other routes first where various train types can be layered on or modified from. It wouldn't do the WCML any justice with an empty timetable...

 

I think an Acela DLC for Boston is almost guaranteed this year.

 

Considering that Word of God is that the Boston route already includes an Acela layer hidden in the timetable, that's pretty certain money.

 

I'd love to have ICE-T/ICE-TD for Germany route.

 

What about the MBta commuter rail Hsp46 locomotive with the bilevel coach’s.

 

Exactly. I didn't bring that up as i didn't want to get anyone in trouble lol

 

Realistically as a loco DLC pack what is going to sell more?

Plus I didn't think the HSPs tilt do they?

A HS train that virtually every single railfan across the world has heard of or a obscure commuter train pack which few out of that corner of the US will be familiar with?

 

Lancaster to Carlisle would just about be within the scope of TSW. Give us a 390 and 221, plus room then for a classic layer DLC with AC locos 81 - 90 for us old dinosaurs.

 

As much as I'd love to see the WCML in TSW2, I don't want it until DTG have figured out the best way to deal with merging routes and applying service timetables, so in time we gradually get stages of the whole Euston - Glasgow (however many stages that may take). Anyway, that's going off topic, I think the next tilting train we'll see will be the ICE-T.

 

I would love an ICE-T. I really hope it comes.

The UK APT would also be very interesting. Though I’m not sure what route it could run on. I don’t really know much about other UK tilting trains. I enjoy UK routes but I’m a bit out of touch with modern trains.

While I don’t personally want it, I think a lot of people will want the Acela, so I hope that comes as well.

Generally though, I was quite impressed and interested in how they will use this technology more in the future.

 

What I would love to see would be a line like Karlsruhe- Mannheim with the SBB RABe503 or Basel-Freiburg; LZB and a
ton of freight and ICE services!

 

The Acela's a shoe-in for sure, but otherwise I wouldn't expect much more tilting trains beyond that within the next year. Keep in mind we've got Spirit of Steam happening, and I suspect DTG are probably gonna do a couple of steam era routes once that tech's finally put into place, and I think that will be the focus for the latter half of the year. Also there's quite a lot of content that could keep them busy as is without ever factoring in tilting trains.

 

For me to open my wallet for the Acela it would first need the signalling on Boston fixing.

Much like with Rivet & Arosa, had the timetable not been fixed I wouldn't have contemplated buying the anniversary pack.

An ICE-T would however be a day 1 purchase.

I dont think I'd be alone in my views either.

 

As much as the British APT is concerned, would be too niche. It never saw public service and was plagued by teething problems. Working for the railway I was lucky enough to get the chance of a staff familiarisation trip in 1980, from Euston to Preston. Unfortunately the tilt system was faulty and isolated. My overall impression was that while first class and dining was okay (the trip came with a complimentary 3 course meal) second class was very spartan hard, by UK standards, seats harsh white panelling and stark strip lighting added to which a claustrophobic feel from the canted in vehicle sides.

The highlight of the trip for me, was being invited by the Area Operations Manager at Willesden to come up front with him for a cab ride from Preston back to Rugby on a Class 86! Now that was rather grand.

 

My favorite would be the DB BR 605 known as ICE-TD.
Why? It would fit perfectly to DCZ of course but to Hamburg Lübeck as well. Repaints of this unit in DSB (Danish) blue-silver livery adding more variety on this route.
Additionally, the BR 612 and BR 605 using the same engine, a Cummins QSK 19 with a power output of approx. 650 kW per car.
On the downside, only 20 sets were built and they are not in service anymore.

My second choice is the DB BR 611/615 known as ICE-T. This unit can be find anywhere where ICE's running and there are still in service after 25+ years.

Looking to the UK and after watching a lot of documentary's about the HST and APT, it would be more then exciting to see the ATP!
In my POV the UK was, beside France and Japan, one of the leading train industry nations in the 60's and 70's and they did great job at Derby Works.
It's a shame there is, more or less, no domestic British train industry anymore.

 

The Class 370 APT and this is a locomotive featured on Jaime's TS 22 Workshop Wednesday stream

 

Rabe 503 Final Destination is Milano Centrale via Gotthard Base Tunnel Northbound Domodossola Bern Railway the Simplon Lötschberg Base Tunnel

 

That’s right! A swiss route would be even better, that obvious I think haha

 

One survives it's a Test Train for Deutsche Bahn Netze. Regarding ICE-T the versions for it are 411/415 in Austria the 4011.

 

You mean a TSW2 Gotthardbahn Erstfeld to Belinzona the Rabe 503 doesn't run the old tracks instead it uses the Base Tunnel at Erstfeld instead of Ariolo Italian speaking side Swiss German side Gösnochen

 

nono, I know that! But in general, Swiss normal gauge lines would be awesome!

 

That would be superb - but Preston would be a better starting point, being a regular crew-change location, and a station where all trains stop. It’s 79 miles from Preston to Carlisle, which sounds a lot, but it’s a pretty straightforward 2-track railway throughout. The total track mileage which had to be re-created would be less than BML, and the number of trains, stations and buildings far less. I’d have thought it would be possible.

Also, I’m sure what you meant to say was a true 1980s recreation, with a 390/221 layer for the kids. ;-)

 

Replying to my own post (sorry) but of course if DTG set a West Coast route in 2002-2005 it could feature any or all of 86/87/90/221/390 in the same era.

 

You mean WCML over shap Preston to Carlisle for TSW2.

 

Hoping to see the Class 370 APT-P. DTG made it for TS’ on the WCML Over Shap route so they must have the research for it. Hopefully it would be included in a TSW version of WCML Shap if they ever make one, preferably if/when the average route length increases as the 370 would need a good, long run.

Pendolino would be nice too but the APT-P is a thing of beauty and simply needs to be in TSW

 

Yes. I did consider via the Cumbrian coast, but most people don’t have half a day to spare to drive a TSW route. ;-)

 

and tpe

 

Going to add my support to this

 

X2000 seems to have had trials everywhere in the 90s, here is a great promo

 

some of modern UK tilting EMUs would be nice... which reminds me, until yesterday I had thought that 801 Azuma on ECML is a tilting train, but turned out it was all because of track looks like

 

The only tilting trains ever to have been in regular revenue-earning service in the UK are the Pendolinos and the small fleet of Super-Voyagers on the West Coast Mainline. The APT briefly ran a few additional services on the West Coast which the public could travel on, but was permanently withdrawn shortly afterwards - it never entered normal service.

The East Coast Mainline doesn’t have enough curves to make tilting worth the extra cost and narrower body shell required.

There’s every likelihood that there will be no more tilting trains in the UK once the current ones are withdrawn, as thinking appears to be that, even on the curvaceous West Coast Mainline, it is not worthwhile. The trend is towards journey-time savings through more rapid acceleration instead.

 

Not really we only have the APT the 390 and the voyagers that tilt those are only uk tilting trains. The azumas can’t tilt.

 

I voted no to this purely down to the fact they are still working on the suspension update and giving the time that has taking and the dedication to get that working perfectly I think they will take a break from such features for the time being so can’t see them implementing tilting action any time soon

 

Mind you it was a poll from 2022, and 87.2% of people were wrong.

 

Frigging hell I didn’t even see that lol

why on earth has a 2 year old thread can back lol

 

but they apparently made the track with slight tilt so the trains would naturally lean into the curve and thus be stable at higher speeds, right ?

 

That’s called the cant where they will “angle” one of the running rails higher than the other it helps with fast running.

 

There are several tilting trains already in the game...?

 

Really what ones can tilt

 

The DB 612 certainly.

 

A part of the wcml with the class 390 is an absolute must at some point, one of the most iconic British trains and has so many AI layer opportunities (Cathcart circle, BCC, Glossop, bakerloo, just to name a few.)

 

We can’t even get the 710 to layer or ai onto bakerloo you have no chance a 390

 

That’s not a tilting train it’s the rails that are canted

 

It is a tilting train. The tilt was temporarily disabled around 2004 due to a few problems but was up and running by 2005.

 

They don't usually layer new stock onto old routes anyway.

 

What I would do for an APT in TSW man…

 

yes they do. SEHS class 700 for example as well as all the other stock on that route since its initial release. Peak forrest is getting the 104 another example.