Possible North Wales Coastal & Extension Re-release

Not really mate as it's GWR that operates electrified stock on the SWC as far as Cardiff, TfW don't own any pantographed stock (yet)

 

The 769s? :P Still have the pantograph (edit or not apparently) , I just meant in real life it's wired up, and has been since TFW started

 

We don't talk about the 769's
They are diesel electric conversions of the 319's powered by MAN engines, but most recently (more often than not) powered by Class 37's (rescuing them)
TfW are desperate to get shot of them, they've been nothing but trouble.

 

I agree, that would be 4th time the route was released.

 

They wouldn't need to re-release the route again, just send out a patch for the additional .TgPcDx and .bin files you're talking about a 30 ~ 40Mb update at most.

 

The TfW 769s don't have Pantographs and apart from Newport - Cardiff there are no electrified routes to run on

They have got the first two of Class 231 delivered from Stadler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briti...1002+004_at_Cardiff_Central_(51693498925).jpg

 

I think you missed the part where i edited it "(or not apparently" ) , my point was more in real life the route now has OHLE, so would be more accurate for the route to have OHLE between Bristol Parkway and Cardiff (but that being said I think it's very unlikely they'll update the South Wales route to TFW, I only meant it would be more accurate with TFW livery stock )

 

It is certainly all right for multiple people to have the same prediction. It is not an ego thing at all.

And Danny...more arm twisting, please. Your merge of NWC to SWC is highly anticipated with the Chester to Shrewsbury line added to NWC. Obviously since it's announced now and nothing has been said of it, it's sure to not be happening now, but I am now guessing it's the Deluxe Edition addition for 2023. If it isn't, it should be. Crewe to Shrewsbury would also complete the Welsh Marches. I could see both lines being one DLC.

 

One minor point, I can't mass change a route to a new point of origin without a tool, but other than that "slight issue" and the lack of a Crewe / Chester to Shrewsbury :P.

(seriously though I don't know what's after the next route, so even I don't know what would be in TS 2023 (if that happens), and not the next route isn't the above :P, it won't be a UK one considering the last route released was UK (North Wales doesn't count in that list, talking of Chatham)

 

Even so, the line could be fantastic and if a merge can be done somehow it would probably outrank South London to Brighton as services start going through routinely in scenario creations. No point having Wrexham northbound to the West Kirby area though, it's literally an isolated local line service with really no other services along it, so would be useless for merging anyway.

But DTG would need to create the Chester to Shrewsbury Line first (that's the actual name) for a merge to happen, and points of origin is the key.

 

I doubt that, London routes are very popular having far more commuter trains is more popular , to note though DTG don't have a Shrewsbury route - so that makes it less likely . Would be nice to see but I think might be unlikely. (but I could be wrong though )

 

I'm merely saying it would be a brilliant decision. There is a lot of demand for that segment of line. Not as much as for the return of NWC itself, but enough. And if DTG doesn't do it, I suspect ATS would now and charge a pretty penny to non-subscribers (and then it's not usable in the Workshop).

Also worth noting the Crewe line is part of Welsh Marches, the Chester line isn't. I wonder if BMG might ever finish Welsh Marches.

 

The Holyhead to Cardiff go via the Chester one

 

I do know this. If they went from Shrewsbury to Crewe, it would ruin the point of taking the detour in the first place as WCML turn from Crewe to Holyhead where applicable.

I have seen services of both routes, as well. Think I last searched on NYE, saw one from Birmingham through Shrewsbury and the other to Crewe, both towards Holyhead area.