Legends Of The Nec Loco Pack Suggestion

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Amtrak_Fan, Jan 15, 2022.

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  1. Take my money!

  2. Would love to see it, but some different locomotives and/or route!

  3. I'd have to think about it...

  4. Not right now, maybe at a later date..

  5. Never in a million years!

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  1. Amtrak_Fan

    Amtrak_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Now as we know, the NEC has been home to all kinds of locomotives, such as the legendary aem-7's , to the infamous hhp-8 locomotive's. So why add these to the Boston - providence route you ask? Well as you know there are legends packs that already exist for other routes (namely the diesel legend's of great western add-on), and I believe this would be a nice addition to the NEC to give it more variety! You would also be able to add the old Acela trainsets once they are out of service! But that's enough yapping, let me show you what locomotives I think should be included and why!
    1. AEM-7
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    Ah the good old AEM-7's, or as they are often referred to, the toasters! Now the reason the toasters should be added is pretty self explanatory. They where one of Amtrak's most reliable locomotive's serving 37 years on the northeast corridor! And an iteration of the toasters hasn't been attempted since the Philadelphia to New York route was released in 2013!
    • The Cab
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    Another reason the AEM-7 should be part of this pack is so they can redo the cab and make it look amazing with the TSW 2 graphics! They could also add the new Aspect display unit (as seen in the picture) to the AEM-7. The cab in the real world looks amazing, and while ts did a good job I think its time to pass the torch to TSW 2!

    2. The hhp-8
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    Now the hhp-8's are infamous for their problems (video on them here), but they are also history in Amtrak's book! The hhp-8's was supposed to be the replacement for the e60 locomotive's, but was plagued with it's own problems and where taken out of service to make place for the new ACS-64's. Now the reason I believe these should be part of a locomotive pack is to replace the version in the original train simulator! It would also give DTG a way to redo the physics and the cab from the og train simulator! Also come on, doesn't it look sweet to drive!

    • The Cab
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    Now there's not a lot wrong with the hhp-8 cab in ts 2022, but there's always room for improvement! Mainly the white on the throttle and brake handles wasn't accurate, also they should add the new aspect display unit (adu)!

    3. The Acela Express (old)

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    Now I understand the Acela is still currently in service, I think they should only add it to this pack when its out of service (if they don't add it before then). There's a thread where I talk about why they should add the acela more in depth so here's a link to that! But the Main 3 reasons is that, they need to redo the physics because the original dlc's physics where abysmally far from reality, They can redo the cab as well because it was also far from reality! And finally, it's one of America's most Iconic train's so to not add it as it's own dlc, or as part of this pack would be like hitting yourself with a baseball bat!

    These are the locomotives that I think should be in the pack, however these can change. Let me know what you think!

    • Additions
    (Edit: This list will be updated whenever I can, so feel free to leave suggestions! Also some of these may not be just for Boston Sprinter and could be used for future NEC routes like NEC NY-NH.)

    -MBTA Hsp46 locomotive with bi Level coaches (suggested by mrchuck)

    - E60MA, PRR and Amtrak GG1's, PRR E44's (suggested by jedi247)

    -Comet IIs IIIs with AEM-7s 2301-2306 (suggested by driverwoods)

    -Metroliner Cab Car (suggested by CombineTheElite)
     
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  2. mrchuck

    mrchuck Well-Known Member

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    what about some locomotive’s from the MBta commuter rail like the Hsp46 locomotive with the bilevel coach’s.
     
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  3. Amtrak_Fan

    Amtrak_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Oh yea! That would be a good addition too! Ill add it!
     
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  4. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You might need to know that there are multiple paint jobs for AEM-7 Phase III Phase IV & Phase V paint. In 2004 there's still some AEM-7 in Phase III or IV Paint job one of these is actually a tunnel rescue locomotive outside of Secaucus Junction. HHP-8 max speed is 135 mph 220 kmh making it 5 mph slower 5-10 kmh slower than Class 395 140 mph 225 kmh and 10 mph (10-20 kmh) slower than DB BR182 MRCE BR182 ÖBB versions 1016 1116 & 1216 max speed 145 mph 230 kmh.
     
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  5. jedi247

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    The E60s are another possibility. I still would love a PRR GG1 and E44. Amtrak also used GG1s for a few years until their retirement.
     
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  6. Amtrak_Fan

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    Yes! I was thinking more along the lines of the phase 5 locomotive livery! The hhp-8's do go 135 but they are limited to 125 because of the tracks, and i think the amfleets with them being over 40 years old. I've also been thinking about trying some ÖBB routes in the original ts.

    The E60 is another possibility! However im not sure they ran the Boston to new haven run. Ill check it out!
     
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  7. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

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    I like the looks of that AEM-7. There's a charm about locomotives of that era. Downside is that there'd be only one route to drive the loco on.
     
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  8. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Also SFJ with Stadler Kiss if DTG wants Electric Caltrain. Caltrain AEM-7s are 939 & 938 Maintenance yard will look like this if AEM-7 and Stadler kiss was added MP15DC DLC Base route F40PH-2CAT DLC Baby Bullet then Stadler Kiss and AEM-7 Caltrain paint.
     
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  9. Amtrak_Fan

    Amtrak_Fan Well-Known Member

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    Yea that would suck, however if they add new nec route the aem-7 can be modified accordingly.

    Caltrain does have AEM-7's however they will not be used after testing phase.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Find your information very helpful and If DTG and Skyhook Games obtain septa License then we can get Comet IIs IIIs with AEM-7s 2301-2306. Remember in Liverty designer people had made 901-915 ACS-64 Septa. While the European prototype BR 182 got tuned into ÖBB1116/1016
     
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  11. Amtrak_Fan

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    You are are correct! I hope they are able to obtain the septa license! However the septa acs-64's have a different cab then the Amtrak ones

    Here's a picture:
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    Other than the movement of the panel and ADU, there are also some different button placements. But Overall not that hard to do!

    I also do hope that we get the AEM-7's aswell! They would be so good!

    Thank you! And I looked up br 182 obb livery, it looks great! People can create those liveries in the livery designer, and it might fill in the gap until its actually released!
     
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  12. CombineTheElite

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    I'd love to see this,100 percent,how ever i have a suggestion!

    Metroliner/Metroliner cabcars!

    They made a whole service that stuck around until the acela regional days,from it!

    Its still being used on the keystone service!

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    (Keystone Metroliner cab car)

    Even if its days are numbered,its still a part of amtrak history!

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    A pretty complex machine!
     
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  13. Amtrak_Fan

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    I totally agree! I loved driving the cab car in tsw! Would be a great addition and it would give them an option to get the physics right!
     
  14. OldVern

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    What about a GG1?!
     
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  15. NateDogg7a

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    All these locos/rolling stock are great. However, especially in regards to Acela, I would like to see some additional services as well. Since I've already played most of the Amtrak services, just playing them again with different equipment would be okay, but new services would be even better. Plus, it would make the route feel even busier.
     
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    They are not meant for 25kv 60hz Northeast Corridor Boston Providence December 1999 electrification. GE E60MA works since it's 25kv 60hz capable. Voltage for GG1 is 11kv 16.7hz-25hz
     
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