For Every Person That Has Ran The Db Br 423 At 160 Km/h

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  1. CowBoyWolf

    CowBoyWolf Well-Known Member

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    Just realised that the max speed is 140 actually
     
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    Clumsy Pacer Well-Known Member

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    I had suspicions when I first drove the 425 - bit convenient that the speed curve flattens out completely at 159 ;)

    Sure enough, they're also limited to 140 apparently.
     
  3. paul.pavlinovich

    paul.pavlinovich Well-Known Member

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    Most of the locomotives in game (as do real ones) have their max speed posted in the cab someplace. It's helpful to take a look around. Not that you'll really hurt anything in game...
     
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  4. Lamplight

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    Under PZB supervision. When run under LZB supervision, the Br 425 is allowed to go 160 km/h. Unfortunately, the TSW 425 is not equipped with LZB though.
     
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  5. grob-e

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    Not sure, how you will get the 423 up to 160 km/h, as it cuts off traction/acceleration at 155 km/h. Maybe going downhill between Klingenberg-Colmitz and Edle Krone full trottel without brakes or maybe on Arosa, haven't tried this yet.
     
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    IIRC, Vmax for the 425 has varied over time because of its suspect brakes.
     
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  7. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Yep. At one point, it had to be driven in PZB mode U (at least in autumn) due to its lacklustre brakes. Those issues have been addressed and the 425 is back in mode O with a top speed of 140/160 km/h (PZB/LZB).
     
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  8. grob-e

    grob-e Well-Known Member

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    Hmm...tried it,

    Tharandter Rampe: maximum speed was 158 km/h
    Arosa: derailed at 113 km/h

    Any further tips to reach 160 km/h in the 423?

    Well, I guess there is a difference between the technical possible highest speed and the permitted highesr speed. How could a ES64U4 made a World record of 357 km/h, while it's only permitted for 230 km/h elsewise.
     
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  9. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    It has to do with 423 being LZB equipped or traction motors Try Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen using the Expansion version on the ICE Line 79 tracks between Düren and Köln Hbf scenario planner.
     
  10. grob-e

    grob-e Well-Known Member

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    Nah, not really, even with LZB on SKA the 423 maxes out at 155 km/h. Actually, LZB is screaming- ok, blinking -at me like a madman, because i'm only permitted to go at 140 km/h. Even though, LZB gives me only an emergency brake shortly after the braking curve for the speed reduction at Horrem started. Don't know, if that's prototypical.

    By the way, the only train/loco I Was able to get above a roughly 10% over permitted speed was the CSX SD 40-2, reaching an incredible 269 km/h on HMA (had to start braking, because I was running out of track) and reaching 298 km/h on LGV (with steep gradients), 285 km/h at relative flat parts of the LGV. Seems a bit unbelievealbe to me...
     
  11. paul.pavlinovich

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    The SD40-2 would explode long before it went that fast in reality I suggest :).
     
  12. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    It depends on how a specific loco is geared, but most US freight locos, and certainly 2d gen ones, are hard-governed to 70mph (or less)
     

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