Does anybody know how to do this? I don't wanna merge 2 routes that overlap eachother. I want to merge the Hastings line and Brighton mainline? Thanks.
You can only combine two routes that have a common location The Brighton Mainline goes nowhere near the Tonbridge to Hastings line.
I don't think you understand merging of routes? A common location is a place that exists on both routes. Which Does Not Exist Look at this map The Blue line is London to Brighton The Green Line is the Hastings lIne The only way to connect them is to build the missing lines shown in red.
Honestly I don't understand it. Ive branched off of tunbridge wells to eridge on the Hastings route. I'm building all the lost lines from that area. So if I build a line from eridge to Croydon. Could I then merge the 2 routes as they will both have Croydon as a common place or is it not that simple? Thanks. I'm doing it properly with Google overlays and the terrain tool. It's not like I'm just running lines in any old direction.
Sounds like you're talking about the same thing indeed. If I understand correctly you can copy the two routes together and then build the link. Or does one need to build an initial version before to have overlapping / neighboring tiles?
From what I've been reading today, is you can use the RWmerge tool to merge 2 or more parts of a route together as long as both parts have a point at the same coordinates. What I don't understand is how you do that. From the manual that comes with the RWmerge tool I vaguely understand that you have to input the coordinates from a part of each route but which coordinates from each route. I'm not sure if it's route origin coordinates or of the 2 points that will meet/overlap. No one really wants to give away this secret from what I've read. Maybe Ill just install ts on another computer and experiment.
If you put the two routes on a map and build Tonbridge to Redhill, you have a mix of route merge and new project.
Each route has a location for everything on that route. Look at 2 routes in the game - London to Peterborough and York to Peterborough - they have something in common Peterborough exists on both routes so you can merge them None of the places on the Brighton Line are on the Hastings line Look at the map - anything in Red you would have to make from Scratch Tonbridge to Redhill is the shortest section to make
You have two options here Redhill Tonbridge or Make ECW Brighton Lewes Eastbourne Hastings. ECW is Eastcoastway. For merging.
I have tried it once (in an absolut amateur way I would assume) but manually. Had found some tool, but It don´t worked because the routes don´t show off. So I done it manually: I had two routes (one was a clone for extending a route, the other has some changes too after the cloning, so I want to rejoin them). So what was done, what is needed (and I´m sure It might be better to do on another way): 1) Both routes must have the same (compatible) coordinates, the Train Sim uses tiles. When looking in the Route folders there are "Networks" (inlcuding" Loft Tiles", "Road Tiles", "Track Tiles") , "Mix Map", "Scenery" and "Terrain" folders. In these folders are files looking like: +000001-000008.bin. When working in the editor you can see on which tile your are. If merge should work it is very recommend that both routes have the same tiles. Hasting station? Must be on both routes on the same tile (and on the tile on the exact same place). Or a junction between milepoint 3 and 4: must be on both routes on the same tile. 2) Next you must identify all tiles that you want to add to the other route. (draw on a piece of paper which tiles you want/need). These tile-files must be copied to the other route directory. So you must copy the appropriate files from the "Networks" to the other "Networks", the files from "Road Tiles" to "Road Tiles" and so on. (preferably the tiles don´t exist on the other. If not you can only choose between route 1 or route 2 version) 3) After then load the extended route in the editor. If lucky, it works - with some excepst. It don´t work properly with tracks and roads (I assume because they are lofts). So these you must perhaps rebuild on the added sections. (at this point I assume the rebuilding is not necessary if the tracks.bin is edited in that way, that all entrys that should be added from one route are added in the tracks.bin of the other route.) Rule 1: make backups of both routes´, if something don´t work as it should Rule 2: If possible choose one location where you have the smallest connection between both routes, so you dont need to rebuild or correct too much on the Rule 3: if the tiles are not the same, don´t do a merge. If the coordinates are different and/or the tiles are different you will have much more trouble. Theretical it is possible (I believe some guys have done it with the East Coast Lines) but it is a very indepth working in many files. And: all at own risk! P.S. the merge finally worked for me acceptable
Just a small question from me. Would I have to ask DTG for permission if I were to upload my own merge on the steam workshop consisting of only DTG routes and assets? I'm curious as I intend to do that eventually, and I don't want to step on anyone's toes.
It depends if you've only used DTG's work, and no one elses? (if you haven't had anyone elses work then it should be fine ) (although if it's what i think it is, there were a few bits of the DTG route that were done as extra, such as the East Kent Light Railway, Catford Bridge to New Beckenham (which I did on my own workshop route first then included it with the Chatham Route, and the Canterbury West section, although half of the Blackfriars section was from the South London & Thameslink route. (DTG doesn't own the Faversham to Herne Bay / Dover Track or Blackfriars sections of track - but if it's on workshop it'll be fine )
You got it pretty much right. I recognized some bits and pieces in the newest CML from your workshop routes, and I must I appreciate the work you've done. It's safe to say that my merge includes all the parts of track from the newest CML that you've mentioned, and my own work in-between. I would only ever upload something like that to the workshop, with permission, and of course give credit to those parts where its due.
Thanks for the reply. I understand what you mean. I though it was just a case of merging 2 routes, then the merged route tiles would load at the coordinates it is on the world. The same way google overlays tiles load at a set of coordinates I input into the editor. But after hours of reading and playing with the merge tool it's not like that at all. Regarding the use of assets. I'm guessing I would need to get permission from all the various owners if I wanted to publish the finished route on the workshop? Thanks.
The point of origin thing, basically if you were to just copy the files from the Hastings route on to London Brighton, where ever tile 0,0 is on that route would appear at Swanley - so say if Tonbridge was the point of origin on the route - then it would appear at Swanley instead of Tonbridge, so it's not as easy as just copying over if the routes starting points are different (not co-ordinates)
An idea could be to build route up to a certain station from each direction on the two routes you intend to merge. That way you could do 2 part scenarios. Granting you get the permission of course. It's not an ideal method, but an alternative. I've made 2 part scenarios on the 1066 line and Medway Valley line for example.
I see. So although the 1066 route and chatham and medway Valley lines share Tonbridge Station, its still a lot of messing about because chatham mainlines starting point is at Swanley and the 1066 lines starting point is miles away at Hastings. Well I think those are the starting points. When ever I open the editor in either route, it starts at those locations. I think I will forgot merging for the time being and carry on with the line to lewes then go the other way to East croydon. Then Tonbridge to Redhill. Thanks for the input.
Hi thanks. Yea that's a idea. But the problem is the route I'm building at the moment is 1960s 70s period. So the first part of the scenario will be in that period then the second part will be modern. My plan was to merge what I'm doing with Brighton mainline then backdate the Brighton mainline. I guess I could just backdate the Brighton mainline. Then do like you say. A 2 part scenario. Or just have the uckfield branch terminate at East croydon. Eventually I would like to add the cuckoo line and the Hawkhurst line. I've run I line from Robertsbridge as far as Bodiam which I intend to carry on to Headcorn. Maybe the bluebell line in the future. Thanks.
