Nir Route Proposal

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  1. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, Today im proposing a new route. and the route is Belfast Central/Lanyon place to Portadown also including the Great Victoria Street branch which is only one stop more on the Line. Let’s get into detail!
    The line is in Northern Ireland and operated by Northern Ireland Railways(NIR for short)
    this line is operated by Three trains and has 15 stations. This line is 30-35 miles long and takes about 46 mins on the commuter but 31 mins on the express train with the max speed being 90 mph. Since Northern Ireland is in the Uk this route uses TPWIS, AWS and CAWS for Safety systems
    Stations:(from portadown)
    1. Portadown
    2. Lurgan
    3. Moira
    4. Lisburn
    5. Hilden
    6. Lambeg
    7. Derriaghy
    8. Dunmurry
    9. Finagh
    10. Balmoral
    11. Adeleide
    12.Great Victoria Street(branch line terminus
    13. City hospital
    14. Botanic
    15 Belfast Central/ Lanyon place
    (too many stations for me to put images)

    Rolling stock:
    Clas 201 and mark 4 enterprise coaches
    7 cars long plus the two power cars
    Capable of 161kmh but restricted to 145kmh
    used on Belfast central to Dublin Connolly routes
    [​IMG]

    Class 4000 NIR formed of 3 coaches and can be coupled up to be 6 cars long
    Max speed being 145kmh (90mph)
    Only used in Northern Ireland [​IMG]

    CAF Class 3000 NIR formed of 3 and used in same formations as the 4000
    Max speed being 145kmh too(both fully diesel trains) This train is used in Northern Ireland but occasionally takes over enterprise services all the way into Ireland [​IMG]

    Lastly(Rarely ever used)
    The class 22000 Intercity DMU
    Used in 5 car formations only on this route
    capable of 161kmh but only in use of 145kmh only a few are fitted with AWS, CAWS, and TPWIS
    [​IMG]

    With all enterprises services and services to dublin using platform 3. and the NIR services using platform 1,2

    Routes: (from portadown)
    NIR:
    Portadown to Bangor (all stops)
    Portadown to Great victoria street (all stops)

    Enterprise:
    Portadown(Dublin) to Belfast central (non stop)

    (From Great Victoria)NIR ONLY)
    Great Vic - Coleraine(Belfast Central)
    Great vic - Bangor(belfast central)
    Great vic - Derry/ Londonderry(all stops)
    Great vic - Carrickfergus(all stops)
    Great vic - Larne (all stops)
    Great Vic - Portrush (all stops)
    Great Vic - Newry (all stops)
    Great Vic - Portadown (all stops)

    From Belfast central
    NIR:
    Coleraine - Great vic (all stops
    Portrush - Great Vic (all stops
    Larne - Great vic (all stops)
    Carrickfergus - Great Vic (all stops)
    Bangor - Great vic (all stops)
    Derry - Londonderry (all stops)
    Bangor - Portadown (all stops
    Bangor - Newry (no great vic)
    ENTERPRISE:
    Dublin Connolly - Belfast central(Non stop)
    Belfast Central - Dublin Connolly(Non stop)

    :) Tell me what you think about this route and what details I could add and Im sure that Driver woods can help give information.
    The end
     
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  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting route and trains. Perfect length and service length for me.
     
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  3. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    NIR does not use CAWS which is found on ROI Railways. NIR uses UK standard AWS TPWS Driver's Remainder Appliance. This route can be sold as a bundle with Germany Sassnitz Freight DR V60 with SA3 couplers US BART or SEPTA Philadelphia Tram System as Train Sim world 2 Broad Gauge Railway.
     
  4. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

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    always here to give info and fix info, Thanks woods :)
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Remember UK Routes including NIR use AWS TPWS DSD Driver's Remainder Appliance except for SEHS High Speed 1 section which uses SNCF KVB TVM-430 future Crossrail Thameslink where it is ETCS Level 1 FS which has CBTC overlaid.
     
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    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    NIR for me would be more iconic with the old DEMU’s.
     
  7. Diceman

    Diceman New Member

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    So, how do we make this happen? I'd love to just see the whole Translink (NIR) network recreated. It's relatively small in comparison to many others and I'd love to experience it from a driver's perspective.
     
  8. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

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    I’m afraid chances of dovetail making a route on the Island of Ireland are very low
     
  9. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Correct but NIR is part of the UK. Basically it means you have Northern Ireland UK and Republic of Ireland. The Realistic Chance is NIR UK Diesel routes
     
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  10. Diceman

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    That would be my hope at some stage.

    I live in NI so am biased towards the Translink routes (apologies to those more interested in RoI routes). I wonder what the TSW community is like in NI and if anyone outside of the province cares enough to add their voices.
     
  11. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

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    Anything to do with the word Ireland already has my money
     
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  12. Odhranamaru15

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    Translink have already said to another user that they're happy to be featured in the sim. Just up to DTG now!
     
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  13. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    This is the first UK Route to be Broad Gauge 1.6m if made for TSW 3.
     
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  14. ch#7054

    ch#7054 Active Member

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    Are you saying that NIR Routes will be coming in 2023
     
  15. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    No. The operators just said they are open to having a deal with dtg but dtg haven't done it.
     
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    ch#7054 Active Member

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    I have been to all nine stations. These are Derriaghy , Dunmurry , Finaghy , Adelaide , Balmoral , Lambeg , and Hilden , I have been to Moira in June 2020 , and Portadown in July 2020
     
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    ch#7054 Active Member

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    I have been to all ten stations all in different lines. But I think it was for the Bangor to Newry Line. Also We want be getting Enterprise because DTG hasn't announced Ireland for TSW3. But they have years ago in Train Simulator
     
  18. jack travers

    jack travers Well-Known Member

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    Well done
     
  19. Odhranamaru15

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    need to keep this at the top of the page. Hence this reply.
     
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  20. Manfonse

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    Lets make this happen, England, Scotland & Wales are featured in TSW, lets get Northern Ireland in, (i live near Belfast)
     
  21. jack travers

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    Wales isn't but yeah.
     
  22. Manfonse

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    Wales are featured at least and get a mention in the sprit of steam collectibles, there are holiday posters for wales need collecting in the route tasks. Would be nice to include NI in something .
     
  23. lukeplayz#2543

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    where did you hear that?
     
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    It’d be great to see Ireland at all, even if not the Republic. If they were to do another Northern route, it would be cool to see the Larne line with the WTs hauling freight and the MEDs and MPDs working passengers; or the ‘90s with the 450s and MVs would also be neat to see. It would be cool to see the Larne line with its peculiar engines in any era up to the 2010s, but there probably wouldn’t be enough interest to make it viable.
     

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