When you purchase several dlc in the dtg sale only to find it on the steam sale a lot cheaper the following week! Look on my face, priceless!
Moral of story, unless it's one of the longer gaps, wait for the Steam sale. If the money's burning a hole in your pocket, buy some Steam gift vouchers and top your wallet up ready.
yeah, the steam sales are pretty much always better value. Tho it's got to be annoying for people like TSG who can only charge £11.99 for the excellent BR101 seeing it going for about 6 quid in the sales, especially when something like the rivet BR187 goes for the same price and is released broken you get and told to take it or leave it, as they cant be arsed fixing it.
FYI the price of loco DLCs on the Epic Games store has increased to £14.99, not sure if this will happen elsewhere too? Might be a good idea to pick up any loco DLCs you want now in case the price rises after the current sale has finished.
Hopefully they won't follow suite on Steam. £3 on a loco pack would probably mean £5 on a route DLC taking it to £30. They will have to raise their game considerably to convince me to buy at those prices.
The steam sale lasts until July 7 I believe. Epic also had a summer sale I think but the dates will be different.
I think you miss the point. The Epic prices have apparently gone up higher than they were pre sale. So does that indicate a general across the board price rise which will also carry through to Steam when the sale ends? Just as I now choose not to buy a £1.70 tin of Heinz beans and buy Aldi or Branston instead, I choose not to pay £30 for a TSW route.
Do I think £15 is a fair price for the G6 or DB101? Yes 100% and when TSG release the B420 is released if thats £15.00 on steam it will still be a day 1 purchase for me. Personally Id still see £15.00 as a bargain price. Would I pay £15 for any other loco DLC? Currently no as personally they wouldn't represent value for money. Would I pay £30 for a route, in principle yes, can I think of a single route currently released worth £30? No
I drank this beverage once too. I paid full price for a pint of Sherman hill for it to be 50% a few weeks (2-4 if I recollect )later
We live and learn from our mistakes. I did get one route I had no intention of buying because it was 80% off. There's one positive I guess.
Which is why I rarely buy anything full price anymore, TSW or TSC, and if the prices are going up rarely turns to waiting for a sale to come round for everything. At the end of the day, I've already got so much train sim software installed I could do something different every day for months and not come back to the same thing. That's before the truck/bus sims, still much to be done Snowrunner and £60 worth of MSFS (and it's older cousin FSX and orphaned child X-Plane 11) still largely untouched with a whole world to explore. Then all the none transport stuff like Fallout 4, Deus Ex or the Mass Effect collection, always good for a playthrough.
If its a route I really want, I'll buy it on release. Like sos, I think it was worth the money just for the assets. But like lgv Mediterranean, worth 4 99 but considering how short it is for a high speed route, it's not worth 24.99. And it's not exactly got any assets I'd use for route building in the future or scenario creations presently.
Havnt dtg already made their money? I though steam, epic etc.... buy a bulk load of licences for x amount of £££s then sell them on to the consumer.
Nope, though resellers can work that way, Steam and Epic are "shopfronts" where DTG sell licenses, so they take a cut of any sale DTG make on their platform, and they supply the download, install and update mechanism for the game but they don't have like 10,000 licenses they're dispensing
Ok. So when epic added tsw to its weekly give away how does that work for dtg? I'm not saying your wrong. I'm curious as to how it works. Like epic give away free games all the time yet steam don't. And as far as I'm aware dtg don't give away dlc. If epic give a way 500,000 copies of tsw does this mean they have to pay dtg over £12,000,000?
We may never know the exact number but yes, Epic paid DTG some hefty amount to give away free copies of TSW2 on their platform. Cheers
Wow! That makes epic a pretty epic company. 500,000 was just an example but I'm guessing millions were downloaded. Even those that owned the game on steam would have taken up the opportunity. Me being one of those. It makes me wonder that the amount of money dtg must have made from that one avenue, why they skimp on time and money to fix some of the issues present with existing dlc.
It is a flat rate, not a per-unit payment. The Apple vs. Epic dispute has revealed that Epic paid $11.6 million for 38 free games, so the amount DTG received is likely in the low hundreds of thousands rather than millions. Cheers
Depends WHAT they gave away, don't forget that if someone gets a free copy of the core game they will likely then spend money on DLC for that game, and who knows what Epic gave DTG for it? They may have given them a percentage off their sales fee - ie if their normal cut is 20% then they may have reduced this to 17.5% for six months which means they pay DTG nothing, DTG save 2.5% on all DLC sales for six months and "all they lose" is a few main game sales for a couple of weeks
I realise this is a hypothetical situation, but for anyone curious Epic takes a 12% cut on sales. Cheers
TBH, i don't think many people pay full price for the core game, it's what... £25 i imagine? i paid £3 for it on the PS5, and i think £4.50 for it on PC (steam) But that's the thing with these types of games, they can afford to give the core game away or sell it for next to nothing, as they 'get you' on the DLC, that's the whole idea with this type of game, and why i think DTG won't release an editor, can't let people produce content for free that could lose them sales (solution to that is make the editor subscription based or something?) It's the same as why casino's in las vegas used to give you free hotel rooms, they knew they'd make way more off you at the slot machines / games tables. i believe that if someone was to buy every bit of DLC for TSC, it'd cost them over 10 grand! Not sure what all the TSW2 DLC if bought at full price would cost someone, i think that i've spent over £200 getting almost all of the German DLC for the PC version, then i 'paid again' getting about 3/4 of the same stuff for the PS5... and i don't think i've bought anything except maybe one train at full price. And it all started out as a £3 download at xmyth on my then new PS5, and it's got me hooked.
Yep, it's called a loss leader, and it's extremely common. With the Steam summer sale on, the full TSW2 experience will run you a mere $663.35, including the base game.
ahh, 'loss leader' is the official name, i call it the drug dealer sales tactic 'pssst, wanna buy a train simulator, only £3' then once your hooked on it... 'oh, want more do ya... well it's now £25 each time' but i'm an adult, and i spend my money on my hobbies voluntarily, tho having bi-polar i kinda go overboard at times, i'd hate to add up all i've spent on my controller build to date, it will deffo be more than i spent on TSW2 DLC, and half the stuff i bought for the controller didnt work out, so 'wasted money' in some ways (tho i may one day have a use for 20 shift register boards that can only switch to +5 volts, and not to ground like i thought they could)
