Train Sim World 2 - A Coastal Retreat

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  1. DTG Alex

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    Nice to see an updated version of the route, that's quite the extra commitment. Perhaps not going to be a must get a launch for me as it's not my kind of add-on but perhaps one day I'll add it to the collection
     
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  4. Tank621

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    I'm guessing the livery is because they didn't manage to get a licensing agreement
     
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    Looks good i guess. I’m not overly excited but it will be interesting to see how they handle this.
     
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  7. tallboy7648

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    I wonder how rivet will screw this train up (Hopefully they won't) Hey at least those that predicted it got it right.

    I wonder if DTG would be interested in modernizing some of it's routes then like NTP or GWE. Although that would be a much bigger task
     
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  8. Bradley

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    There’s something about this that feels wrong
     
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  9. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    I mean most things made by rivet have that wrong feeling to them
     
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  10. rjeeves#3580

    rjeeves#3580 Active Member

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    Can you blame them.
    Imagine the commercial department at SWR..
    Phone rings,
    "Hello, you want to put the island line livery on your train sim model, I don't see why not. You name again"
    "in that case... No"
     
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  11. LIRRGuy

    LIRRGuy Well-Known Member

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    Trust Me, They have already messed up the sounds, the sounds arent even accurate the 484 so far sounds like a desiel train
     
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  12. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    Yeh i saw the video. At least they modelled it nice.
     
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  13. ARuscoe

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    Why has it got a blob of yellow on the front...?

    [​IMG]

    And blobs on the sides?

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. CowBoyWolf

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    License Mate Rivet where unable to get an license
     
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  15. smugstarlord#4202

    smugstarlord#4202 Well-Known Member

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    It's a pass from me. IoW is such a turd route on console.
    They don't even have the license and you already know its going to be broken as its rivet
     
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  16. Rudolf

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    I like what I have seen, but for one EMU and an updated short route? Not for the full price. A pity the steam engine is not included. It would be nice if there can be some variety in trains. Maybe a class 08 and some maintenance train? Would be nice.
     
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  17. smugstarlord#4202

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    Rivet and Maintenance don't go together
     
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  18. Rudolf

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    Maybe, at some point we should stop bashing Rivet. You know what to expect and for DTG the same comment applies. They do something but at a very slow speed. SEH, Clinchfield, still lots of issues that can and should be solved.
     
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  19. antony.henley

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    GWE would have to be completely rebuilt from the ground up. Also why stop at Reading go all the way to Oxford. Get Joethefish (sorry mate) to do the timetable and boy it will shine more than BML.

    Hentis
     
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  20. trainmasteraiden

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    i don't know will they will make an BNSF Steven Pass Or NJT Route
     
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    Sorry for keep spamming class 800 for all the years in the forum, but this may be a good model to replicate for GWE to extend the route and give us a class 800!
     
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  22. ARuscoe

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    hmmm.... then that's a very odd decision for them to make. They've obviously got the license for the train shape iteself, and one wonders what IP the shape of the yellow hazard marker would have... And wouldn't "Island Line" be a trademark of SWR?
     
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  23. matinakbary

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    But it isn't the full price compared to other routes? Or are you comparing it to the original IOW route?
     
  24. DTG JD

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    On the livery discussion: it's an entirely fictitious livery (we were able to get approval to use 'Island Line', but other areas we (and by extension, Rivet) weren't able to).
     
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  25. smugstarlord#4202

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    You can if you want, but I will continue to bash Rivet until they actually make a full on effort instead of being half arsed
     
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  26. tallboy7648

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    License for a yellow line? I don't even know how to respond to that? What's next is there a license for potential dust inside the cab of the train?
     
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  27. Sparmi

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    ...the guys from Rivet did a wonderful job with the coastline and water depiction in WCL. So I'm looking forward to see a beautiful seaside from the pier in Ryde with its circling sea gulls. If I'm correct, there will be a new route layer from 2022, including the new train, in addition to the old route version from before.
     
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  28. tallboy7648

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    I mean it is $2 cheaper than the original version but still $22.99 for an 8 mile route is a bit too expensive for a short gameplay experience
     
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  29. trainsimgaming1001

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    Hey. At least we have livery designer! And I am sure someone will make a mod that replaces the default livery
     
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  30. stujoy

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    I hope the free upgrade to the original route fixes the magical appearing station. “Ping, there it is” said a relieved driver.

    It’s a bit strange having a redone route release so soon after the original but I don’t see much wrong with the decision to do it. I think more people would have wanted it with the new train than the elderly thing in my profile picture because the kids do love modern shiny stuff. It may still be an old refurbished train but it looks and feels much more modern. It’s very reasonably priced as well, so I’ll consider buying it at some point. I’ll have to see what the quality is first of course.
     
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  31. Crosstie

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    Yet another UK emu to add to the toy box. It's becoming a little crowded in there.
     
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  32. antony.henley

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    Just in case some of you never bothered reading the gumph that the link went to. Also I have highlighted the most important thing you may want to take time to read.

    Hentis

    Compared to the previous Class 483s, the new Class 484 trains sit higher above rail level, so throughout most of 2021, work was done to alter the platform heights by using an additional raised platform construction that sits on top of the older platforms. Additional work was also done to reinstate a passing loop at Brading.

    The Island Line 2022: BR Class 484 doesn’t require Rivet Games’ Isle of Wight: Ryde – Shanklin as the BR Class 484 comes with its own modern version of the route. This modern-day line for Train Sim World 2 features improved and expanded environmental details along the line like Disabled Access Ramps, Platform end gates, Ryde Pier Clock plus much more. New signalling has been implemented together with a rework of station platforms further enhancing the realism on the route.

    Rivet Games’ Island Line 2022: BR Class 484 is coming to Train Sim World 2 on Steam, Xbox, PlayStation and Epic Games Store, July 19 for £14.99/€17.99/$22.99. Pre-order will be going live later on Steam.

     
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  33. CowBoyWolf

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    DTG Alex DTG JD No offense but Screw the pre order because then we need to wait to 7pm cet on the evening to play the route and loco
     
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  34. marcsharp2

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    Oooh nice. I'll be purchasing this.
     
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    Does the 484 operate on any other routes? If it's just for IoW, it's a pass for me.

    Was really excited for a second when i saw new content incoming.....but this is very underwhelming.

    I'll boot up the original IoW from time to time but there's other routes DESPERATE for new rolling stock so this just seems like an odd choice.
     
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  36. tallboy7648

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    I read that part but with the history of this company it's probably best to see it to believe it.
     
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  37. tallboy7648

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    The 484 only runs on IOW in real life
     
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    ...and the older route version also gets a free update. ;)
     
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  39. Alex_m30x#7297

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    I feel there is a less offensive way to say that :|
    I totally agree with your point however
     
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    Note it’s basically water colour
     
  41. Mr heff

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    That is extremely unappealing for a train simulator.
     
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  42. MYG92

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    Wasn’t TSW supposed to be a realistic simulator using real liveries or I missed something ? Anyway River and DTG never stopped to amaze me :D
     
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    Two questions spring to mind.

    1. Will realistic liveries be banned from creators club?

    2. If this is priced at £14.99 - doesn't it kind of make the original one over priced at £19.99?
     
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  44. Disintegration7

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    Regarding fictitious livery, I swear i remember DTG saying they wouldn't release unbranded content for TSW.

    I understand things change over time, but this is a pretty major development- should we expect more unbranded content going forward?
     
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  45. Alex_m30x#7297

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    1, they have ‘Asked us’ on stream but made it very clear they couldn’t police it so ….
    2. Very true, the only reason you would get it would be to get the old train, which Is 1199 on bakerloo so…
     
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  46. redrev1917

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    Some liveries are a hard no in sofar as if they are uploaded they will be removed. Others are a we've asked you not to but we'll turn the other cheek if we come across one.
     
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  47. antony.henley

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    But if you have already bought the original one does it really matter?

    Hentis
     
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  48. redrev1917

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    I suspect its a case that it was a last minute realisation that their existing license didnt include it and by the time they applied and was told no it was a case well Rivet was too far invested in the project to cancel.
     
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  49. Mattty May

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    Not sure what I make of this. The original Isle of Wight still has issues. Why trust the second version, with new train, will be any better.
     
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  50. redrev1917

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    It does seem like the only way Rivet will improve a route and fixes issues is if coincides with a paid addition.

    We saw it with Arosa and now again with IoW.

    Are we going to have to wait for a steam version of WCL line before they fix the issues with the route?
     
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