Tsw3 - The Cat Is Out Of The Bag & The Unofficial Tsw3 Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by redrev1917, Jul 5, 2022.

  1. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2018
    Messages:
    1,757
    Likes Received:
    3,490
    I hear ya, but the 3rd route is probably Germany/Austria/Switzerland, but they haven't done a "route length" tease for it yet.

    My take is the stream is more to show off new tech features, and that they'll have plenty more to show of all 3 tomorrow.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  2. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Messages:
    11,733
    Likes Received:
    17,942
    Or maybe passengers will carry them in the rain?
     
    • Like Like x 3
  3. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Messages:
    11,733
    Likes Received:
    17,942
    That's definitely Southern CA/Mojave desert- see the tree yuccas? Not Arizona or NM or CO. To me that smells like El Cajon
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    4,529
    Likes Received:
    10,148
    Albuquerque, NM is well known for its Fall Hot Air Balloon Fiesta.
     
  5. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2019
    Messages:
    5,569
    Likes Received:
    11,836
    So I found 3 route possibilities for the 85 miles mark

    -Cajon Pass (San Bernardino - Barstow) appx 83 miles from depot to depot (Via track 1-2)
    BNSF/UP or ATSF/UP

    -Beaumont Hill (West Colton - Inyo ) appx 73 miles from West Colton Yard to the old Inyo yard, extra trackage around WC/Fontana or Ontario Amtrak?
    UP or SP

    -Seligman Subdivision (Williams Junction - Winslow) Appx 88 miles from the old Amtrak depot at Williams to Winslow, potentially too long by a few miles.
    ATSF or BNSF

    Everywhere else is either too short or too long or doesn't fit the scenery.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  6. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Messages:
    11,733
    Likes Received:
    17,942
    But the desert around Albuquerque looks nothing like that
     
  7. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2020
    Messages:
    3,989
    Likes Received:
    3,637
    i think maybe another mile image around 8am as it’s exact time difference between other 2 aswell
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Redbus

    Redbus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,011
    Likes Received:
    2,103
    Have to agree about the Avanti West Coast tortoise clue. A 90 mile WCML route could be on the cards, but which bit?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  9. Pinguinie

    Pinguinie Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2020
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    120
    I don't think TSW3 will be announced. At most one core update:
    - Weather
    - Dynamic clouds
    - new train system
    - possibly autumn update with 2-3 new tracks
    - light system

    "Not more". And in the end it will be a lot less than all the "hype" around it.

    With the best will in the world, I can't imagine DTG suddenly becoming innovative out of nowhere.
     
  10. breblimator

    breblimator Guest

    I believe in hard reset there. The future is a new game, without the preserved spaghetti code. Time to move on.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    2,392
    Preston - Carlisle is exactly 90 miles.

    I'm wondering if the tortoise clue is the colour green Avanti use on their trains, maybe..?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  12. SonicScott91

    SonicScott91 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2020
    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    1,969
    If it is Shap, I’d prefer it with the Class 87 and 370. They’d make for a much more interesting experience than a plain ol’ Pendolino.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  13. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2020
    Messages:
    11,922
    Likes Received:
    23,935
    How would Tehachapi factor into 85 miles, if you added a bit at either end or maybe the Trona branch too? I know Seligman from Run 8 and sadly it’s not the most interesting section, either scenically or operationally. My smart money would still be on Cajon at this point, obviously a lot of people at DTG are secretly playing Run 8!

    Preston to Carlisle or Carlisle to Glasgow would be great for the UK but definitely in the AC electric loco era, not Pendies.

    Of course the slight downer to all this if we are getting 3 x 80/90 mile routes will we be looking at a £40 price tag for the new version? Time to bank those Steam Wallet points.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. juliplus#6089

    juliplus#6089 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2022
    Messages:
    57
    Likes Received:
    196
    What the hell ?!
    Long Routes???!!!
    There must be something wrong…
     
  15. SamYeager270

    SamYeager270 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    633
    Likes Received:
    667
    With what seems to be longer route sizes does this mean their autogen is working better or DTG have found a way to incorporate photo/aerial data in routes?
     
  16. taybarker20

    taybarker20 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    154
    Euston to Nuneaton or Birmingham International or rugby are at 93 miles or less
     
  17. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    2,392
    Nuneaton is 97 miles & B'ham International is 104 miles from Euston.

    Rugby is 82 but why say 90 unless there's some branches which bump it up to 90..?
     
  18. Class156

    Class156 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2020
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    285
    I’d say this is a good shout. Pre pandemic (I think) DTG went up to the WCML and spent time at the Avanti depot. Although WCML South is now out for TS, I’d be very surprised if they didn’t use that research in a tsw title too.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  19. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2020
    Messages:
    11,922
    Likes Received:
    23,935
    Nuneaton or International not a logical end point. Rugby with the Northampton Loop included would be over 90 miles. So I sincerely doubt if it is the WCML, it’s any section south of Preston.

    Anyhow I reckon curved ball incoming. It will be Craven Arms to Llanelli via Central Wales - 4 trains a day in each direction with a 153. Nice challenge for Joe there!!

    Actually on a serious note, wonder how far 90 miles would get you along the North Wales coast either from Crewe or Chester. Time to dig out my sectional appendices.

    Edit: Well Crewe to Holyhead is 105 miles (further edit) so maybe start from Chester but throw in the Llandudno Town branch. H’mmm interesting.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2022
    • Like Like x 3
  20. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    2,727
    Likes Received:
    4,408
    They don't use miles in Central Europe. Not sure that says anything reliable about the hints DTG is giving us though.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  21. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2019
    Messages:
    2,454
    Likes Received:
    7,474
    I'd say it does - the miles hints are for the US and UK routes, the third one still missing and likely being in kms.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  22. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2019
    Messages:
    5,569
    Likes Received:
    11,836
    Its almost 1am here on the West Coast of the USA, wonder if its worth pulling an all nighter to see anything new (I luckily don't work tomorrow)
     
  23. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2019
    Messages:
    3,177
    Likes Received:
    9,160
    Might as well get some sleep, they’re revealing in 8 hours anyway.
     
  24. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    2,392
    Sod that, whether you stay up or go to sleep, you'll find out eventually.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  25. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2020
    Messages:
    11,922
    Likes Received:
    23,935
    Yes it’s only a train game, not the future of mankind.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Helpful Helpful x 1
  26. Redbus

    Redbus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    1,011
    Likes Received:
    2,103
    The rain droplet effect on the camera looks good and I sincerely hope that it makes it into the vehicles; the existing effect just looks like wallpaper paste running down the windows, to a degree where you can’t even read the information screens on the trains. Unfortunately the rainfall itself looks like the typical enormous UE4 drops.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2022
    • Like Like x 3
  27. zappatime

    zappatime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2020
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    250
    I liked the billboard that popped up with JD’s mugshot and the words ‘I will find you and I will leak you’
     
    • Like Like x 1
  28. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    2,392
    The whole hype/promotion of this has been brilliant, kudos to whoever was part of putting it together.
     
    • Like Like x 17
  29. Callum B.

    Callum B. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2018
    Messages:
    1,638
    Likes Received:
    2,844
    DTG have figured out 21st century marketing. This has been more fun than it should be.

    Cheers
     
    • Like Like x 10
  30. SamYeager270

    SamYeager270 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    633
    Likes Received:
    667
    Look as if DTG still haven't sorted those backlit tunnels. :(
     
  31. RailFan97

    RailFan97 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2021
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    182
    Top marks to the person at DTG who’s in charge of marketing.
     
    • Like Like x 7
  32. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    5,565
    Likes Received:
    11,446
    All those stations would be an poor place to end the route. If they went to International then they might as well go to New Street. Ending at Rugby would be like ending the GWML route at Didcot where many trains don't stop.

    If it is WCML then I would think Preston to Carlisle would make more logical sense as both are major stations.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  33. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    2,392
    With them saying 90 miles and Preston - Carlisle being bang on 90 miles, it's the best guess I've seen.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  34. Wilbnil

    Wilbnil Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2018
    Messages:
    212
    Likes Received:
    607
    Agreed, this has been very exciting to see unfold. DTG has come a long way since "The big reveal".
     
    • Like Like x 4
  35. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2019
    Messages:
    2,454
    Likes Received:
    7,474
    What if it's more like the DRA situation and 90 miles refer to a total mileage in a network? So a bunch of shorter segments connected, maybe some branches?
     
  36. erg73

    erg73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2020
    Messages:
    872
    Likes Received:
    3,030
    It's been a long time since I've had such a good time reading the TSW forums, it's amazing with all the speculation over the last few hours and being able to enjoy the knowledge that so many members of the community have about trains and routes around the world.
    And the next few days are going to be crazy too, after the revelations the forums are going to boil.

    Congratulations to DTG for the marketing they are using, it's amazing.
     
    • Like Like x 21
  37. Thunderer

    Thunderer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2019
    Messages:
    586
    Likes Received:
    869
    Don't know if it's already been posted, but this just flew across the screen.

    Screenshot 2022-08-09 103030.png
     
    • Like Like x 3
  38. Mattty May

    Mattty May Guest

    I agree with the other comments, DTG has made the reveal of TSW 3 quite exciting. I like the way they acknowledged JD accidentally leaked it by putting up a wanted poster. The live stream looks stunning too. Dynamic weather is going to make the game more interesting to say the least.

    I’ll be very surprised if Gen8 consoles are still supported, unless they’ve found a super cool way of using much less memory at any given moment.
     
    • Like Like x 13
  39. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2018
    Messages:
    1,231
    Likes Received:
    947
    I'm impressed also in the way how DTG let is know there is something to reveal! This is one off the best reveals that I have experienced in the last year's. Thumbs up for DTG!!!
     
    • Like Like x 9
  40. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    2,727
    Likes Received:
    4,408
    They certainly got the hype train running.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  41. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2019
    Messages:
    4,369
    Likes Received:
    7,214
    England vs denmark??

    I dont think these symbols are individual clues. i think they add up to make a word, loco, route or feature.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  42. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    2,392
    Is that VS as in Team A vs Team B or VS as in the code Virgin used..? I assume they can't use Virgin branding so that's probably out of the question..

    So, England (St George's flag) VS ...? Can't quite make out what it is.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2022
  43. Pipe

    Pipe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2022
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    3,435
    There´s no way a Dosto fits into that tunnel.
    Great!
    Brillyunt!
     
    • Like Like x 3
  44. Thunderer

    Thunderer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2019
    Messages:
    586
    Likes Received:
    869
    Looks more like the Finnish flag close up.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2022
  45. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    2,727
    Likes Received:
    4,408
    How about an Electrostar or Talent 2? ;)
     
    • Like Like x 3
  46. Purno

    Purno Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    2,727
    Likes Received:
    4,408
    Pretty sure there's red and blue in that flag, which is the flag of Faroe Islands.
     
  47. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2018
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    2,392
    I know what you're saying, the vertical stripe appears to be slightly left of centre but that's not blue.
     
  48. Pipe

    Pipe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2022
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    3,435
    Well, I guess we´ll have to live with a few cracker boxes. ;)
     
  49. Thunderer

    Thunderer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2019
    Messages:
    586
    Likes Received:
    869
    It looks like a small motor boat of some sort.
     
  50. Thunderer

    Thunderer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2019
    Messages:
    586
    Likes Received:
    869
    Enlarged it a bit.

    Screenshot 2022-08-09 110018.png
     

Share This Page