New Db Vectrons With Dual Power!

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  1. grdaniel48

    grdaniel48 Well-Known Member

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    After the great success of Stadler about their really great Eurodual - diesel + electric powered locomotive -, Siemens replied with the Vectrons Dual ones.

    Already painted on DB colors!

    SIEMENS VECTRON DUAL POWER.jpg

    SIEMENS VECTRON DUAL POWER 2.jpg

    As you notice... with the IC paint scheme!
     
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  2. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Oooh. Stadler are really making a rise now... I wonder if they will steal some of SIEMENS' market share...

    Could this be the Airbus and Boeing of the railways?
    Or maybe Boeing and Mcdonnell Douglas, with Airbus yet to come?
     
  3. MYG92

    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think so. With the acquisition of Bombardier Transportation by Alstom I think this company with the Chinese ( CRRC ) are the current Airbus and Boeing but let’s see what the future will say
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    So SIEMENS and Stadler would be Bombardier and Embraer?
     
  5. grdaniel48

    grdaniel48 Well-Known Member

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    Well... no in my opinion.
    Those are Alstom (Traxx) and Siemens (Vectron) instead.

    Stadler it has very good products, and created the first big freight locomotive with dual power (I believe)
    Their locomotives looks awesome.
    Even they have several really nice EMU products too.

    I am very exited as 7 brand new diesel locomotives of Stadler - Euro 4000 series -, were bought in my country.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If you look at Alstom Website the locomotive Line up is made up of Traxx and Prima. Need more power & Hybrid option above the Traxx go for Prima Locomotive. On the Website, they have Aem940 which runs Zurich Limmattal Rbf hump
     
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    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve seen the Eurodual ( CC6001 ) with the new nose and it’s quite massive I was impressed it’s always great to see a CoCo locomotive. The Euro 4001 Captrain runs quite often at my workplace it’s a great loco too
     
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  8. grdaniel48

    grdaniel48 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I know that.
    But I was referring more about sales volumes.
    Please notice I have no concrete data, but seeing lot of videos, those locomotive builders are being the leaders on freight locomotives.
    Stadler as mentioned, it seems to sell less than those ones.
     
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    Do we know what their workload will be?

    The IC scheme is certainly interesting, the 101’s are getting on abit now and I know that Germans don’t exactly love the IC2 fleet.

    Any chance these will be the new IC locos?
     
  10. MYG92

    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    950kW in diesel mode and 2,2mW in electric mode it’s higher than the H4 Prima with 900kW output in diesel and 2mW in electric mode. I don’t think it’ll be on IC services the tender was made for DB Cargo
     
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    grdaniel48 Well-Known Member

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    Then why are they painted on white and the red stripe?
    Typically IC paint scheme.
    Furthermore no "Cargo" lettering.
     
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    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    They will be, Cargo wouldn't use the Fernverkehr livery. It's not hard to find out (or guess) what they're for:
    https://press.siemens.com/global/en...rders-21-vectron-locomotives-siemens-mobility
     
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    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    I said I don’t think because I saw on a website that the tender was for DB cargo but I don’t check that website every two minutes as there was an update 2 weeks ago about it
     
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    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    And I provided the facts for everyone's benefit :)
    Joking aside, sorry if you took offence to my comment, I didn't mean to attack you.
     
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    MYG92 Well-Known Member

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    Oh no don’t worry I wasn’t offended by it but it’s quite difficult behind a screen to see people reaction
     
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