Class 395 Technical Faults And Problems.

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  1. PuuvillaneMats

    PuuvillaneMats Member

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    Class 395 'Javelin' is the star of the 'Southeastern Highspeed'. The model is very nice and cab extremely well done. 10 points to modellers who mastered this cab. Good job, I like it very much. Seems like physics are also pretty realistic. The train overall feels right. But from technical side this train looks unfinished and I've found serious faults/problems. And this is already second and improved release ... I still hope those issues will be addressed very soon.
    1) AWS, TPWS & TVM on/off switches are nicely animated and working but ... system reaction is wrong during initialisatsion (switching on Master Key & and moving Reverser from OFF to to Neutral position). FAULT: Youre getting AWS horn even if You haven't switched AWS/TPWS on. The same about TVM switch. If You've not turned it to ON position TVM can't operate, as well KVM test if KVM is not switched ON. In current state there's no any difference, TVM will work anyway. Please fix this.
    2) DSD (Driver Security Device) is always switched on (backpanel switch even not animated, always turned on). That means if You have Reverser set to Forward or Reverse position You can't raise Your legs from the pedal or warning horn will sound. But DTG forgot this technical feature. Class 465 is a good example of how it has to be done. Class 375 DSD needs fixing as well.
    3) There are services ending or starting with Train Wash procedure. For that purpose there is a special red button called 'Train Wash' which is holding slow speed - 3 mph. Unfortunately the button is dead in TSW3, DTG hasn't implemented slow speed feature. Why if there are even services where train washing is playing important role? This button is very usuful not only for washing but also for coupling.
    4) Coupling. There are services where player train (even AI is capable to couple as well) has to couple to another train. Unfortunately the coupling procedure is faulty. When You push 'Prepare Front Coupler' button the front hatch opens. When hatch gets completely open the button's light should illuminate (currently not done) and then You have to push 'Couple' button during 5-10 sec. to connect all electrical and electronic equipments. Only after that computer (TMS) can react to consist change ... not before. All this is falty in DTG's Class 395. In TSW3 services usually just end and You can't even use 'Couple' button. And for some unknown reasons another train's rear hatch is not prepared (open) for coupling when Your train is approaching. But has to be open. Another driver has a 'Prepare Rear Coupler' button for that. Common practice, rules.
    5) Train Management System (TMS) screen is almost dead. You can see consist state, clock (actual time) and doors state. That's it. But even here I found a fault. When switching 'Open Doors' button the doors red markers on screen activate when doors actually get open (after animation). This is working as supposed to. But when closing doors then red markers go off immediately after pushing 'Close Doors' button. Not right, this action takes few seconds.
    6) Brake tests are missing completely. Very important feature! For TGV Duplex it was done, why not here?
     
  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    For 6, cuz they ran out of time. A lot of features are left out because they don't have an infinite amount of time. They have deadlines to meet
     
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  3. PuuvillaneMats

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    Ran out of time ... Nice reason. This way You can justify everything. Problems can always be fixed in patch if they only want it to be fixed. But 1-5 - those are faults I'm (and many others, I'm sure) waiting solutions for. And I forgot to mention that drivers cab camera position should be vertically around 5 cm-s lower. Sad they still haven't added cab camera position editing tools. Watch how precisely cab modeller has worked. Turn Your head left and right and You can notice what's wrong with the camera view (Class 395 is one of the best, many other trains are almost unplayable).
     
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    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    New features: highly unlikely, like they aren't going to revisit the train to include the brake test or the washing mode thingy lol
    Fixing bugs: it'll just get added to the long list of things they'll look at and get to fixing eventually but it'll end up taking years
     
  5. Railmaster

    Railmaster Well-Known Member

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    If it were a train simulation, these imperfections shouldn't exist!

    If it were a train game, it simply wouldn't matter.

    Now it's a simulated railway world, the name says it all.
    So for me that falls under things I can live with. They're not a gamebreaker for me. If it worked exactly like that, it wouldn't have any added value for me either.

    Crucial for me is that what is really important has to work! In that case it does.
     
  6. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    The last thing I want is the vigilance going off every 60 seconds. It's a PITA on the 350 in TSC especially as it's barely audible and I gave up on it simply because I got fed up with the train constantly juddering to a stand. So I'm glad it's off by default, though generally it's 50/50 whether I switch signalling safety systems on (more likely on German high speed).
     
  7. PuuvillaneMats

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    I don't undertsand the point of Your comment. Okay You don't like DVD - leave it in switched off state and that's it. Class 395 vigilance systems sounds are pretty good. Problem was that when activating train You have to cancel AWS/TPWS horn even in case You haven't switched those systems on from the backpanel. This is a fault! Plus all other faults mentioned in my post. For example DSD (Drivers Security System) - in reality You can't stand up from the drivers seat when reverser is set to Forward or Reverse position - AWS/TPWS horn sound will follow after few seconds. Not a case with DTG's Class 395.
     
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  8. stujoy

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    TVM indications are on by default because they are necessary for the signalling and operation as there aren’t signals on the section of the route that uses TVM. However, the system will only penalise the player if TVM is switched on. It is the right way to do it for TSW because many players do not use safety systems and would then have no signalling on the line and for those who do use safety systems it makes no difference as they will switch the system on anyway. Not an issue.
     
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  9. razmatus#2517

    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    I noticed tho that even though DSD is on, when I stand up there is no beep... happened to you as well?

    edit: basically, I'm an idiot :D it doesnt beep when the train is at standstill, but it does if you stand up as it is moving, lol :D

    edit no.2: some UK machines do DSD beep when I stand up even when standing still at a station... is 395 different in this?
     
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