Road Map Train Sim World 3 - Roadmap 6th October 2022

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  1. tft#6439

    tft#6439 Well-Known Member

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    When does the 43 release on Livery Designer?
     
  2. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Normally about 2 weeks after they preview and share a release date as a rule of thumb
     
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  3. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    The Avelia Liberty is assembled in Rochester, NY, so it can be classed as an American loco.
     
  4. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct and furthermore it can become Hauptstrecke München Augsburg version Avelia Horizon same power car but tilt is taken out 11kv 25hz is replaced with 1.5kv DC 25kv 50hz & 15kv 16.7hz
     
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  5. MYG92

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    The Avelia Liberty is the new train set replacing the first generation of Acela Express I wasn’t talking about the Avelia Horizon ( TGV M ) which will be only for France at the moment.


    It won’t come to HMA as the 3UA are just 10 yo… and the Horizon will come first at the PLM replacing the first Duplex 200 series being scrapped at the beginning of 2024 and the other Horizon will replace the R-tri that goes to Italy. No more information yet as even internally it can changes quickly and it’ll be able to run under 1.5kV and 3kV DC and 25kV AC first and pre equipped for Germany later maybe as an option
     
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  6. Adamgrant3

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    I dont think so as the Original Acela first service was Dec 2000 and the code on the new US Loco was 2011+ electric im guessing its the new Acela train Set
     
  7. tft#6439

    tft#6439 Well-Known Member

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    So it should be out in the next few days.
     
  8. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully the mark III carriages that are in different liveries will appear on service trains and not just the power cars. It still irritates me that the mark 1 and 2 carriages in different liveries don't appear on service trains.
     
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  9. tft#6439

    tft#6439 Well-Known Member

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    And I also hope each power car are separate as there are trains like the 484 which copy to the other side automatically and I hope the 43 isn't like that otherwise making a good livery will be heck of a task.
     
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  10. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice as well for the Power Cars to get their numbers back as well instead of 00000 lol
     
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  11. tft#6439

    tft#6439 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah lol.
     
  12. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    The date codes refer to when the route is set, not a particular loco's entering service. Routes with Class 101s are not coded to the 1950s! Nor is GWE given a 1970s code, even though the HST made its debut then.

    Again, there is no way DTG currently could make a model of the Avelia Liberty, since they have no access to the prototype. Nor would it make any sense to place a Liberty on Boston Sprinter, which is set in 2019.
     
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  13. Rudolf

    Rudolf Well-Known Member

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    Watching the livestream now, a compliment for DTG:

    - The progress on game save.
    - Attention for UI
    - Auto testing

    These are really good developments! Thanks for sharing them.
     
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  14. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    DTG JD, I though you guys were going to announce the routes before the next roadmap. Your running short on time. Are we going to hear more soon or has the announcement been pushed back further?
     
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  16. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    They aren't going to announce it before the next roadmap since it's only a few days away now. They will when they are ready
     
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  17. mortal1234

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    Maybe they are keeping it for the roadmap ???. Would make sense.
     
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  18. LWDAdnane

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    They've repeatedly said they don't use the roadmap for announcements.
     
  19. junior hornet

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    When did they say they would announce the routes before the next roadmap? I don’t remember that.

    It’s no wonder that routes are regularly released unfinished when you get this sort of impatient attitude.
     
  20. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about the Class 90s these will be doing freight with Class 86 although newer
     
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    Come to think of it I do seem to remember a thread, though I can't remember which one, where JD, I think, said something about the new route being revealed before the next road map.
     
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    They said, they'd release the New Journeys DLC before the next roadmap and this was correct. Maybe he mixed up something...
     
  23. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    They said it at the beginning of the year when the roadmap got overhauled. They said route information won't be on the roadmap anymore. They will be on separate news articles instead. So, roadmaps will just say german, uk, us route for example but nothing more. The actual route info will be in a separate article
     
  24. Tank621

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    90s were quite literally brand new at the time, I believe the dedication of a fleet of 90s to freight only happened in 1991. The main freight locos would be 86/4s, 47s and 37s and 31s.
     
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  25. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks and for GEML 1989 routes that it can receive layers from are the following NTP Huddersfield Line Class 47 1983 the same year 1989 Eastern Region Northern England Tees Valley Line Class 37 & 31 locomotives.
     
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    I remember that too, but I think I heard it on the live stream
     
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  27. Blovu

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    What is now with the October Roadmap? Until yet you released many buggfixes and game improvements, but I am still waiting for the announced new routes and new trains. Is it delayed until november?
     
  28. TimTri

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    I‘m assuming the Birmingham route will be revealed in the coming days. The trophies for it were already found, look at the thread in the PC Discussion for more info. We don’t know if this will be DTG‘s or Rivet‘s UK route, but I‘d probably say the former because of its complexity (about 25 stations). Rivet seems to be good at making niche routes with less complexity.

    There’s apparently also a second content depot with a file size in the Steam files, which means a second route DLC couldn’t be too far away. There are two further depots without attached file sizes, so these DLCs are probably still far away from getting released. One of these is likely a route, and the other one could be the new US loco because it was updated together with Boston Sprinter‘s depot a few times. Many are obviously guessing Acela Express, but I wouldn’t rule out a surprise Avelia Liberty reveal because of DTG‘s good relationship with Amtrak.
     
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  29. andyscotland

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    Saw a Facebook post in the week saying that the new UK route MIGHT be Birmingham Cross City line running 323s, hoping there is some Midlands action featuring the 172 aswell. Apparently the rivet route may be a Scottish route which would be nice. I'm from the uk and as such only really have an I tereat in UK routes but it has to be said that while the uk, USA and germa y appear to be well served it seems as though the rest of Europe is very poorly served indeed.
     
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  30. Crosstie

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    And where do you suppose it would run, since there are currently none in revenue service and won't be until late 2023.

    I doubt that Amtrak would want to see it on a scheduled service before they get to run it themselves; would be a little embarrassing.
     
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  31. rennekton#1349

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    They will not be announced until they are ready. They just got added at the beginning of this month. It either is in early stages or it's a few weeks away so we'll just have to wait.
     
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    It's probably just going to have the 323 and possibly the class 66 for freight since that's already been used a lot and that's what it came with in the tsc version. It also came with a 350 but I don't think the devs would create 2 brand new trains. Seeing brand new trains for the route is rare these days. There's always stuff reused
     
  33. TSW Nathan

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    Yea, it's a shame but it's true
     
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    It's Birmingham Cross City Line with a Class 323. A pic of the code for the achievements for the train and route have been leaked. Don't know what rivets route is though.
     
  35. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Morning, folks. Apologies, have had a week off.

    Current plan is for this month's Roadmap to hit on Thursday, all things being well.
     
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  36. andyscotland

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    Hoping for goodness.
     
  37. OldVern

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    Seems Steam have overtaken your leakage rights this time round, JD! You'll have to work on something else to intrigue your audience...
     
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  38. junior hornet

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    I hope your wee cough is better now. :)
     
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    Hope you're better now, it appears Steam has leaked the new route for you
     
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  40. tallboy7648

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    And that route is...
     
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    biringham cross city
     
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  42. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    DTG can never seem to surprise players anymore. Many things get leaked these days
     
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    steam achivements were leaked
     
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  44. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Ha, was actually taking annual leave, but thanks for the wellwishing all the same ;)
     
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    Wee cough = Week off

    (It’s an I scream = Ice cream thing)
     
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  46. always taking time off dovetail games u wonder why peoples we get such bugs in each route and loco release because they to bizzy to give us a pure professional dlc
     
  47. Crosstie

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    My goodness, only one week of annual leave?! You should come work in the US. Even the worst companies here give you at least two weeks.

    ( While I'm here, could you please start banning people for posting really dreadful puns? )
     
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  48. TimTri

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    If I‘m not mistaken, JD was able to take some time off in summer prior to TSW3‘s release. I‘m sure DTG takes care of their employees and gives them a healthy amount of free time.
     
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  49. Crosstie

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    Oh stop, please! And then go to the store and buy yourself a sense of humor. I believe they're on sale this week. ;)
     
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  50. Callum B.

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    It's important for employees to take holiday time off to balance work and life. They are human beings, not your personal bug-fixing slaves. Have some empathy.

    Cheers
     
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