Train Sim World 3 What Route Would You Improve?

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  1. NateDogg7a

    NateDogg7a Well-Known Member

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    Playing SEHS extended has got me thinking about what changes I might bring to other routes in a similar fashion, if that was possible. And, I would like to hear what others think too. Anything is fair game really, but should be realistic enough that DTG might actually do it, using SEHS as a reference. It can be any route, even yet another SEHS!

    Here's my go:
    Route: LBN
    1. TSW3 lighting and effects
    2. Final, complete implementation of rush hour passengers
    3. Class 700
    4. More freight services and AI
    5. Playable extensions to Hove and Lewes
    6. More accurate representation of area around Reigate
     
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  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Good thing is dtg have begun exploring the implementation of tsw3 lighting and clouds to older routes as mentioned in the December roadmap so this could be a possible route to get the effects due to how popular it is
     
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  3. NotDavid

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    i agree with what you have said. it would fit in perfectly.
     
  4. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    I'd improve northern trans-pennine.
    1. From Huddersfield there is a line which goes up to Halifax. It will go to bradford interchange, change ends, and go to Leeds.
    upload_2022-12-16_20-19-43.png The blue line is the new line I want and the lower line that goes through dewsbury is the current northern trans-pennine.
    2. A little bit more colourful, currently it looks very dull and hardly any bright colours that makes it look nice.
    3. And maybe extended to York too
     
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  5. NotDavid

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    I'd like the route to be more modern and not just diesel locomotives.
     
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  6. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    There's only diesel locomotives on northern trans-pennine irl, it isn't electrified. Although I do agree it should be modernised so we can have 185s and 68s
     
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  7. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    Great Western Express gets my vote.
    It should always have been as follows...

    Set either before any OHLE work commenced beyond Heathrow Junction or after the complete electrification to Reading as 2015 was in that awkward period in between the two, especially as we have no AC electric stock to use as far as Hayes and Harlington.

    All branch lines included such as...
    Northolt Junction to Old Oak Common.
    West Ealing to Greenford.
    Southall to Brentford Waste Terminal.
    Heathrow branch (pending licencing).
    West Drayton to Thorney Mill and Colnbrook.
    Slough to Windsor Central.
    Maidenhead to Bourne End and Marlow.
    Twyford to Henley on Thames.
    Reading to Basingstoke.
    These would offer the opportunity to drive the various different shuttles and a few more freight services. Bringing these branches to a remade GWE is the ONLY way I can forsee us EVER getting them as at present they are otherwise isolated with no way of including them.
     
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  8. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    I too would give NTP the SEHS treatment but would keep it the same era (1983 I believe it is) and add a class 25 and another first gen dmu (a 110 or 128 maybe). I would extend it to Liverpool from Manchester which is 30 odd miles and then from Leeds to York which would be about 25 miles which would take the total mileage including the pre-existing section to about 95 miles of realistic running in the legends which ruled the rails at the time. NTP is already a real gem now but imagine how much of a banger this would be, especially if you have the heavy freight pack, as you could potentially have 45s, 47s, 40s, 25s, 08s, 101s and either a 110 or a 128 running around on this potentially brilliant route.

    Anyway the wife has just walked into the room so I am out of fantasy world now so I will leave you with this dream of mine.
     
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  9. MontagHasser

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    I would extend Dresden-Riesa to Leipzig.
    a) Dresden-Leipzig is one of the oldest train routes in germany, and THE oldest long-distance-route. Actually, the part starting from Leipzig is even older than the part starting from Dresden.
    b) Dresden-Riesa-Leipzig is the actual route of the RE50 (which you can use in Dresden-Riesa dlc). Half of that Route is missing in the game. And many of the ICs and ICEs between Dresden and Riesa also drive through Leipzig.
    c) Train Simulator Classic (which is a dovetail game as well) has the Dresden-Riesa route as well, and the extension to Leipzig was added in april this year.
    d) I live close to Leipzig, and in reality, the RE50 and also one of the local "S-Bahn" lines in Leipzig (Rapid Transit contains one such line) stop at the train station in my town. I even use both RE50 and S-Bahn quite frequently, and the fact that I can't reach that station in either of those dlcs is quite annoying.
     
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  10. NotDavid

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    Great Western Express needs a extension.
     
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  11. Rail Runner

    Rail Runner Well-Known Member

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    Couldn’t agree more with extending to Lewes and Hove. It’s literally the main bit missing from the route to complete the triangle around Lewes when it is mixed with ECW.
    I’d also add edit services to make them more realistic, such as stopping 1F01 at Selhurst and Three Bridges.
     
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  12. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    HRR because Mulheim Styrum needs more trains coming in from Oberhausen Hbf which are the Bochum Ehrenfeld to Rotterdam via Zevenaar Emmerich am Rhein freight trains. Also extended to the Netherlands by ending at Utrecht CS with DB BR1429 tri voltage and DB 189 for true PZB Mode M freight.
    RSN
    extension to Hagen Vorhalle since it's the Main freight yard that handles switching and Hump operations. Opening the possibility of Mega-merger with RRO RSN via the new Bochum/Dortmund-Hagen Line which I proposed last year.
     
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  13. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I'd improve Cathcart Circle.
    1. Add the Class 380 upload_2022-12-17_8-31-25.png
    2. Add the Class 156
    3. Extend to the Paisley canal line upload_2022-12-17_9-9-27.png
    4. Implement TSW3 lighting an graphics
    5. Give proper rush hour Passengers
    6. Make Glasgow Central busier and add litter (Glasgow Central is never that clean or quiet).
    7. Make the concourse PIS displays work.
    8. upload_2022-12-17_8-59-3.png upload_2022-12-17_8-33-32.png
     
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  14. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Not bad but an extension to Wemyss Bay would probably be better in an Inverclyde Line: Glasgow Central-Gourock/Wemyss Bay route ;)
     
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  15. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    It was ethier that or the Paisley canal which I thought was a bit too short. Yes. Sorry, I'll include Gourock as well in the extension
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    No, that's not what I meant, I would change Wemyss Bay for Paisley Canal as Wemyss Bay would suit another route ;)
     
  17. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmmm. Okay. If you say so. :)
     
  18. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    :D, but imagine this, ACL and ICL in the same route, with a potential merge with CCL :love:
     
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    TVL. Extend to Boulby and/or Bishop Auckland with a Class 142 a d a Class 56.
    Or add in the scenic line to Whitby.
     
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  20. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes, Boulby needs covered for all the TVL freight enthusiasts, Bishop Auckland vs Whitby, hard choice but for route lengths' sake, I'll go Bishop Auckland because NRM Shildon and an extension north of Darlington which would be nice ;)
     
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  21. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Dream route. :love:
    I'd be in train sim hevan if that happened :love:
     
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    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    I know you would, Paisley Canal would suit a Cathcart extension and leave ICL for either it's own route or a dream merge with ACL ;)
     
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  23. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    :love::love::love::love::love::love:
    Plus, we'd get a Class 156 and a Class 380 with this extension. ACL trains but on a different route and merged with CCL. Amazing! :D
     
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  24. AirbourneAlex

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    Most routes can be extended/improved in various ways. TBH I rather we got new routes instead of improving existing ones with longer but potentially similar gameplay for the time being. So many new areas we could explore first before we start needing an extra 30 minutes drive added onto existing routes.

    Though if BML/ECW could be combined with the line to Wivelsfield from Lewes and the line to Hastings and Ashford from Eastbourne with a Class 171, as part of something like a TSW4 release, that would take my fancy. As long as the new version doesn't require owning the original, like the new SEHS.

    GWE would also be nice modernised with the Class 345, 387 and 800, but if the time taken to make that happen could be spent making something like ECML South, I'd rather opt for the latter.
     
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  25. NateDogg7a

    NateDogg7a Well-Known Member

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    Yes, some timetable adjustments would be a good idea too. And I just thought of something else: adding the RHTT!
     
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    Improve GWE, driving HSTs only has one stop reading

    I would like to see an extension to Oxford or Bicester village via Didcot and Oxford parkway other possible destinations could be Bedwyn or Bristol

    could also include cross country route Reading to Manchester Piccadilly between Reading and Oxford
     
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  27. Lil jj

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    I am pretty sure there are a few hst services with a few stops inbetween reading.
     
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  28. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I love the idea of the east Coastway extension/connection. That is something I'd love to see! :love:
     
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    Great Western Express extension through to bristol
    SEHS to charing cross/victoria
     
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  30. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent idea for the German routes I have two of them are towards the Netherlands International extensions. First is Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr towards Utrecht Arnhem Zevenaar via Oberhausen Hbf by building out Mülheim an der Ruhr Styrum branch line to Oberhausen Hbf and Bremen Oldenburg towards the Netherlands Groningen Bad Nieuwschans Dutch Border Station with Leer as the German Border Station from Bremen & Oldenburg Hauptbahnhof.
     
  31. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Where to even begin.....

    Cane Creek
    -Completely redo the AC44 and SD40-2 to improve their models and paint.
    -Remove the 2 bay hoppers, replace them with the actual Container cars that are used on the route.
    -Extend the mainline of the route from Green River to Cisco
    -Add mainline trains via subbing from Sherman Hill

    Peninsula Corridor
    -Add the SFBR yard at Pier 96 for proper UP transfers.
    -Add the port of Redwood Branch Line
    -Extend route to at least
    Tambien

    Clinchfield Railroad
    -Extend route to St Paul, like the TSC version
    -Add in a GP7 for local duties and make use of the coal loaders on the line
    -More vintage stock for the manifest trains (Flatcar, tanker, more liveries for the boxcar)

    Sherman Hill
    -Finish track 3 so its usable
    -Improve scenery at Granite

    -New UP mainline loco for variety
    -BNSF subbing from Cajon Pass on the Ex-C&S line in Cheyenne
    -Reskin the Covered Hopper cars to UP livery

    Cajon Pass
    -Add in missing landmarks (Hill 582 etc.)
    -Improve the scenery in the pass
    -Fix popping in mountains
    -Extend Palmdale cutoff to West Colton.
    -Extend Mainline to Daggett and Yermo
    -Add military flat cars for the marine bases between Barstow and Yermo
    -Services to Arden Mills and Mars Petcare in San Bernadino
    -Improve routing so not every BNSF mainline train that goes downhill uses track 3.
    -Passenger routing in Scenario Planner

    Horseshoe Curve
    -Junk the horrible TOFC car and train, replace with a trash train (Which does run on HSC IRL)
    -Improve spawn rate of the Gondola
    -Improve the ES44 with sounds from the Cajon Pass C4.
    -Improve yards for switching in Scenerio Planner
     
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  32. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    East Coastway
    1. Extend to Hastings and Ore upload_2022-12-17_17-56-10.png
    2. Update Class 377 for new PIS and sounds. upload_2022-12-17_17-58-5.png
    3. Add Class 171 upload_2022-12-17_17-57-6.png
    4. Give TSW3 Graphics and Lighting upload_2022-12-17_17-58-52.png
    5. Implement Rush Hour Passengers. upload_2022-12-17_17-59-27.png
     
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  33. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Cane creek and horseshoe curve are skyhook routes, so it is up to them to improvements.
     
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  34. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    I know, and they should.
     
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    NTP
    - Extend to Liverpool and add Stalybridge to Piccadilly
    - Add TSW3 lighting
    - Add class 25 & class 37/0
    - Add class 31 layers using TVL
     
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  36. NotDavid

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    with this extension i also would like the route with over head cables and the class 800 and 387/1 introduced to the route to.
     
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  37. NotDavid

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    nah i want the modern liver pool lime street line
     
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    The Class 380 isnt that important
     
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    some people might not want the 380.
     
  41. bdlhouston#8691

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    Cathcart circle, i personally would

    • extend to lanark, include the class 320 and wcml between glasgow central and newton, services could run from glasgow central high level to Lanark, or from central low level and terminate at motherwell

    • Add central low level, for a good few services between glasgow central LL and larkhall

    • add new lighting, and better passenger A.I, central is never that quiet.

    • give glasgow central a rehaul, allow us to walk into the concourse, add more A.I, especially around platforms 10-15.
     
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  42. darkwarrior#2896

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    Don't forget the class 455/171
     
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    darkwarrior#2896 Well-Known Member

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    The two rounds I could see improved is Great Western Express Paddington to Bristol with branch lines and Long Island railroad with improved graphics scenery rolling stock and branch lines
     
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  44. Lil jj

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    Is he not allowed to want it?
     
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    just wondering if we can count dlc as a part of how we would like a route to be improved? If so I think they should extend GWE dlc DLOTGW to oxford and fix the whole route up. As it doesn't look like the 70s, it has inaccurate rolling stock, no branchlines and lack of services. Like they need to add the 117 dmu to replace the 101 on the route and they need to add mk1s to the route as there were not a lot of mk2as during the time its set. Also we had other express power at Paddington at the time like class 50s etc.
     
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    Yea, sorry. That's what I ment. I'll change that. Thanks! :)
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    To me it is. :)
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    It could do services on the Paisley canal line and layer onto CCL alongside the Class 156. Whereas the Class 156 would only do services out of bounds or on the Paisley Canal line.
     
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    Why? I'm all ears. :)
     
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    This is an easy one... finish East Coastway! DTG releasing half the route when it came out was really disappointing, and I really hope they complete it. However, an alternative is to make Eastbourne - Ashford International and make full use of the class 170 and have 377s going between Eastbourne and Ore.
     
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