Road Map Roadmap - January 2023

Have to say Edinburgh is looking class

 

Excited!!

 

Really nice start to the Year thanks DTG and 3rd Party Teams.
Losts to get Excited about.

 

Looks like the new feature on the Scottish route are the train announcements implemented to other routes this will be close to the real life version. Keep in mind the German routes will exactly sound the same if the feature were to be implemented from the Scottish route because they use Ingo Ruff

 

Edinburgh looks very recognisable not static City or anything

 

3.GDG-R7 = UK Diesel Electric and Diesel Hydraulic and set in 2011+

 

The code on the Skyhook Games route is interesting - both Diesel Electric and Diesel Hydraulic, but set in the modern day. Does anyone have any guesses about what that could be? I had no idea Diesel Hydraulics were still used in the UK, I'd assumed they'd gone the way of the dodo after the withdrawal of the old Western Region classes.

 

i would assume an heritage railway

 

Isn't the voith transmission on the sprinters/pacers hydraulic?

 

Good news about add on manager. Can finally once again get excited for new routes.

 

Wow, so much to unpack here, but I'll try my best here with some of the more key highlights

• The identities of all 4 of those add-ons teased before christmas have been revealed. I'll list them down below as well as quickly giving my thoughts on them.

1. ScotRail Express: Edinburgh - Glasgow (Despite Rivet not having the best of luck with TSW so far, I'm actually quitely looking forward to this one).
2. West Cornwall Local: Steam Railtour (I'm not against doing a railtour Jubilee, but was it really neccesary for WCL?).
3. Niddertalbahn: Bad Vilbel – Glauburg-Stockheim (Was inevitable ever since it was leaked back in August last year, but I never thought it would be TSG making this route (thought it might have been Just Trains' first route) but regardless, really curious to see how TSG get on at making a route.
   
4. Amtrak Acela Express (It was always a case of not if, but when. A hopefully this mean we will start seeing more loco add-ons again, after going through a drought of them last year).

• Also worth mentioning we have a new UK route from Skyhook. Which appears to be a modern Uk diesel route, going by the code. excited to see what this could be.
• Boston Sprinter confirmed to be getting the TSW3 updates (new lighting, skies, etc). Which makes sense for this route considering it's getting a loco add-on, along with addressing the big matter of this routes signalling.

 

Turns out that the Class 168/170/171 are all Diesel Hydraulics too, as well as the 185 (only used by Trans-Pennine Express).

 

It could be quite challenging and hopefully fun with all the gradients. Although I struggle to get more than 12 miles an hour out of a Jubilee climbling out of Lime Street.

 

Whats going on with the DB BR420? It's been on there since the very beginning

 

I forgot about the Turbostars, I didn't realise the class 185 used hydraulic transmission.

So I wonder if it is two new trains! Or it could possibly be using the class 166 or class 66 with a new one alongside. I doubt they would be using the WCL class 150.

 

I assume it is behind the new German route and associated train.

 

I believe TSG has been working on other projects (ICE1 and niddertalbahn I think) and therefore had to take time to do them.

 

It’s a skyhook thing, I won’t hold my breath for something great

 

Is there a key anywhere on the forums that detail how to read the codes for the in development routes on the roadmaps. I didn't realise they gave indications of what the route could contain.

 

It's coming after the route releases. Tsg also got pulled into various German dlc in tsw2 and tsw3 made by dtg on top of making the g6. So the 420 hasn't been actively worked on. Production of it got delayed even more cuz of their new German route. So once the route releases, they will resume work on the 420.

 

Yes there is. Look up route codes tsw on your web browser and there will be a link leading to it

 

Current plan says finishing it maybe to end of March. What does not imply that it will release in March or April. We will see. First priority at the Moment is the route and the 628 that comes with it. And there is still 2nd. party work to do at the moment too. I wish i could clone myself, but that's nothing i can achieve.

 

Rivet’s new route looks great, it might be a day one purchase for me. Also, very excited for the Acela Express and the improvements to Boston Sprinter! Hopefully, the sound team could have another pass on that route, too, to fix things like the brake application sound playing constantly when brakes are applied, even though they are self-lapping.

 

I am wondering what happens with testing quality. I still see a fair number of issues and some routes like Clinchfield really suffer in playability. Theough there is some progress with the Pecial Projects team it is going horribly slow and I still think they cannot even keep up with all new stuff, let alone the tremendous backlog with bugs and issues. Not even the gameplay issues are all addressed for some routes.

I recently noticed that even very simple but irritating issues like the catenary pole on a track in RSN is not fixed and likely will never be fixed. Even though it would be a five minutes job and not even require testing.

 

The main bottleneck would be waiting for testing or a release slot. Like the roadmap mentioned, preserved crew updates still waiting for an appropriate release build even though it's done. The special projects team is also quite small and given huge tasks such as the recent todv4 update to Boston sprinter and like you mentioned a backlog of many other issues.

 

And yet again no progress on TSW2 updates, manual firing, or anything else that isn't new DLC.

 

Tsw2 updates are done but stuck in the finding a release build/slot phase as mentioned in the roadmap. Probably cuz there are more important things releasing before it does. Manual firing is a complex task and probably not as high priority as the other issues.

 

That's a very revealing sentence. Dare I suggest that the priority list is biased towards churning out more DLC?

 

Moderately interesting roadmap. I'm half hoping that Glasgow to Edinburgh gets a classic diesel timetable in addition to the rather uninteresting 385's, so we can rag 37's, 40's and Duffs up Queen Street bank.

I saw diesel hydraulic for the Skyhook route and started wistfully thinking of Warships and Westerns over Dainton, down to Torbay or along the Cotswold line. It's a bit of a stretch to apply that to Voith transmission on a DMU, but hey ho. There is the possibility it could be something like the Severn Valley Railway and we get a new diesel electric, maybe a Type 2, and a Warship but that really is a stretch.

 

That’s the roadmap we like to see. I don’t know how many times the add on manager has been onto its final stage but I really hope this time we’ll stop playing Tetris and enjoy our entire collection. For the BR187 we’ve waited a year for an audio fix but it appears the sounds were badly mixed so do we have an estimation about the release or do we have to wait for another year ? I’m very concerned about Skyhook doing a UK route considered how bad was the BR187, an insult to us

 

It's time-coded 7, that is since 2011.

 

Skyhook also did Horseshoe Curve, which really isn't bad at all. Not without issues, but a good-looking and enjoyable route.

 

That doesn't rule out a heritage railway though.

 

Nice to see Boston Sprinter getting some much needed love and attention.

 

Hope it's not a heritage route. Not my cup of tea.


Looking forward to the Boston upgrade, Acela Express, and TSG's route.

When will they reveal the US Route??

 

Oh great! re the TSW 2 updates,

we've gone from shortly after the release of TSW3 six months ago, to being told "some" would be released before Xmas in roadmap / stream a couple of months ago. Well Xmas has been and gone. Seems nothing changes, if its not QA issues being given as an excuse it's release scheduling issues

 

Looking forward to the Boston Sprinter updates and the Acela, nice to see some pictures.

 

The Coradia 1000s as well! The Class 180 in particular was a bold attempt at a 'high speed' (125 mph) capable diesel-hydraulic, which unless I am mistaken is the fastest diesel-hydraulic train ever made, or at least put into regular service.

Cheers

 

I thought the US route would get revealed today. Hopefully sometime between now and the next roadmap. I think the Acela will be released before the US route

 

It's look like it may be an electric route another part of the NEC?

 

I have to say that the implementation of Edinburgh really blows my mind, the whole Rivet team did a really great job! Also a well structured roadmap, not too packed that you get too overwhelmed by details and at the same time loosened up with two interesting interviews. The most urgent thing is and remains the addon manager, which is finally on target. Because the next DLC release isn't until the end of January, PS5 players can still hope that everything will run smoothly by then and that the 64GB limit will be a thing of the past. I should also have my PS5 by then. So a great start into the new year!

 

Does anybody know what the explorable areas on IoW 2022 are? Didn't blindly give it a shot myself.

 

Very exciting roadmap!
Edinburgh to Glasgow looks even more promising, a new modern British route (and not an EMU) is on the way, Acela is incoming and Boston Sprinter is finally getting it's signalling fixed. It's like Christmas came late for TSW3!

 

Maik Goltz
Would it be possible to have the new class 628 from the Niddertalbahn also run on MSB. In order to equip the route from Aschaffenburg BF to Aschaffenburg Süd with layers.

 

id probably say the biggest is if you go to Ryde Esplande and leave via the passenger entrance and turn left towards the train pedestrian crossing bridge and go over it towards the hovercraft that area is large and open to walk around.

another area is the Ryde pier car park, that’s also accessible on the Older Isle of Wight route

there’s also a pond on the older route version (haven’t checked myself if it’s on the 2022 version)
It’s between 2 stations in the middle of the route (I forget which ones) that’s quite a bit of a walk from the track.