Howdy everyone, TrainGeek08 again, today I am suggesting the New Haven Line and the M8 to merge onto Harlem Line (will it happen, probably not anytime soon but regardless ) to allow the dual-voltage M8 to be used on the route with a power changeover like on SEHS, LGV etc. Stock included in pack: The Bombardier M8 in Metro-North livery Training (In Training Center): M8 Introduction Training (On route): Power changeover (Pelham-New Rochelle) Scenarios: New Haven: (Difficulty - 1) Drive a M8 from New Haven to Grand Central Terminal on a fast service Broken Wires: (Difficulty - 3) Drive a M8 from New York to Mount Vernon East as the wires have come down between there and New Rochelle Deadhead Drag: (Difficulty - 4) Drive a M8 from New Rochelle to Stamford to pick up a dead M8, then drag it back to New Rochelle Timetable: Same as Harlem's timetable to enable layers on either route Stations on Pages 2-4...
Page 2: Stations: New Haven-State Street: New Haven State Street station is a commuter rail station located on State Street in downtown New Haven, Connecticut. The secondary railroad station in the city, it is located 0.8 miles (1.3 km) northeast of the much larger New Haven Union Station and is intended to offer easier access to New Haven's downtown business district. It is served by Shore Line East and Hartford Line commuter trains, Amtrak Hartford Line trains, Springfield-terminating Northeast Regional trains, and Valley Flyer trains, and a limited number of Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line trains. Originally proposed in 1996, State Street opened on June 7, 2002. A second platform opened on June 8, 2018, in time for the beginning of Hartford Line service. New Haven Union: Union Station, also known as New Haven Railroad Station (IATA: ZVE) or simply New Haven, is the main railroad passenger station in New Haven, Connecticut. It is the third such station in the city of New Haven, preceded by both an 1848 built station in a different location, and an 1879 built station near the current station's location. Designed by noted American architect Cass Gilbert, the present beaux-arts Union Station was completed and opened in 1920 after the previous Union Station (which was located at the foot of Meadow Street, near the site of the current Union Station parking garage) was destroyed by fire. It served the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad for the next five decades, but fell into decline following World War II along with the United States railroad industry as a whole. West Haven: West Haven station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in West Haven, Connecticut. The station was built on Sawmill Road between Hood Terrace and Railroad Avenue, in the Elm Street-Wagner Place neighborhood. West Haven has 660 parking spaces in on-site lots (with the possibility of 300–400 more in a parking garage in a refurbished industrial building north of the station if warranted by future demand) as well as bicycle facilities. The station is accessible. West Haven has full service on the New Haven Line, as well as from the handful of Shore Line East trains which run past New Haven to Stamford. Milford: Milford station is a commuter rail stop in Milford, Connecticut, on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line and CTrail's Shore Line East. Stratford: Stratford station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line and CTrail's Shore Line East, located in Stratford, Connecticut. Bridgeport: Bridgeport station is a shared Amtrak, Metro-North Railroad, and CTrail train station along the Northeast Corridor serving Bridgeport, Connecticut and nearby towns. On Metro-North, the station is the transfer point between the Waterbury Branch and the main New Haven Line. Amtrak's inter-city Northeast Regional and Vermonter service also stop at the station, as do some CTrail Shore Line East trains. In addition the transfer point for Greater Bridgeport Transit Authority buses, the departure point for the Bridgeport & Port Jefferson Ferry across Long Island Sound to Port Jefferson, New York, and both the Total Mortgage Arena and the Hartford Healthcare Amphitheater are located adjacent to the station. Fairfield Metro: Fairfield Metro station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line, located in the town of Fairfield, Connecticut. It opened as an infill station on December 5, 2011. Fairfield: Fairfield station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line, located in Fairfield, Connecticut. The former station buildings are listed on the National Register of Historic Places as Fairfield Railroad Stations. Southport: Southport station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line, located in Southport, Connecticut. It is one of three railroad stations in the town of Fairfield, the others being Fairfield and Fairfield Metro. Green's Farm: Green's Farms station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Westport, Connecticut. Westport-Greenwich on Page 3...
Page 3: Westport: Westport station (also informally known as Saugatuck station) is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Westport, Connecticut. It is located in the center of the Saugatuck section of town, a few miles south of downtown Westport, and is one of two stations serving Westport. The station was named Westport & Saugatuck in timetables of the New Haven Railroad and the early years of its corporate successor, Penn Central. East Norwalk: East Norwalk station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line, located in the East Norwalk neighborhood of Norwalk, Connecticut. The station building was constructed by Metro-North in the 1980s. South Norwalk: South Norwalk station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line and CTrail's Shore Line East located in Norwalk, Connecticut. It is owned and managed by the Norwalk Transit District. Nicknamed "SoNo" by riders and staff, the station is the point where the New Haven Line's Danbury Branch connects to the Northeast Corridor, as well as a peak-hour terminal for some express trains. It is the last stop for New Haven super-express trains before they run non-stop to Grand Central Terminal in New York. Just east of the station is the South Norwalk Railroad Bridge, and next to that is the SoNo Switch Tower Museum, a preserved switch tower which is open on summer weekend afternoons. Amtrak uses the inner tracks as it does not stop at South Norwalk. Rowayton: Rowayton station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line, located in the Rowayton neighborhood of Norwalk, Connecticut. Nineteenth-century artist and humanitarian Vincent Colyer helped to get the original station built. The station has two high-level side platforms, each six cars long, serving the outer tracks of the four-track Northeast Corridor. Darien: Darien station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Darien, Connecticut. A small station house is located on the north side of the tracks (New York City-bound side). The station is wheelchair accessible, with elevators at the east end, near the Boston Post Road. Noroton Heights: Noroton Heights station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line located in the Noroton Heights neighborhood of Darien, Connecticut. Stamford: Stamford station, officially known as the Stewart B. McKinney Transportation Center or the Stamford Transportation Center, is a major railroad station in the city of Stamford, Connecticut, serving passengers traveling on Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, Amtrak's Northeast Corridor, and CTrail's Shore Line East. In addition, it is also a major bus terminal for Greyhound, Peter Pan, and CTtransit buses. Annual ridership on Metro-North exceeded 8.4 million in 2016, making it the second busiest station in the entire system, after Grand Central Terminal. Old Greenwich: Old Greenwich station is a commuter rail station served by the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line, located in the Old Greenwich neighborhood of Greenwich, Connecticut. The station has two side platforms, each ten cars long, which serve the outer tracks of the four-track Northeast Corridor. Riverside: Riverside station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in the Riverside area of Greenwich, Connecticut. The Riverside Avenue Bridge crosses over the west end of the station platforms. Cos Cob: Cos Cob station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in the Cos Cob district of Greenwich, Connecticut. Greenwich: Greenwich station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line in Greenwich, Connecticut. It is also the first/last stop for some express trains that originate/terminate at South Norwalk, Bridgeport, New Haven–Union Station or New Haven–State Street. Port Chester-Grand Central on Page 4...
Page 4: Port Chester: Port Chester station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Port Chester, New York. The station is the northernmost station on the line in New York before crossing into Connecticut. Rye: Rye station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in the city of Rye, New York. Harrison: Harrison station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Harrison, New York, United States. During peak hours, some local trains (namely those not subsidized by the Connecticut Department of Transportation) originate or terminate here as opposed to locals from Stamford. Mamaroneck: Mamaroneck station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Mamaroneck, New York. Larchmont: Larchmont station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Larchmont, New York. New Rochelle: (you may recognize that name from somewhere) New Rochelle station is a Metro-North Railroad and Amtrak train station located in New Rochelle, New York. The station serves Metro-North's New Haven Line and Amtrak's Northeast Regional; Bee-Line Bus System buses serve a bus stop just outside the station. As of August 2006, weekday commuter ridership was 4,020, and there are 1,381 parking spots. It is the busiest New Haven Line station in Westchester County. Pelham: Pelham station is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's New Haven Line, located in Pelham, New York. The station is one mile west of the New Haven Line's junction of the Northeast Corridor, and is located just east of the end of third rail power and start of overhead catenary power. Mount Vernon East: Mount Vernon East station is a commuter rail station on the Metro-North Railroad New Haven Line, located in Mount Vernon, New York. The station is the first station north of the junction where the New Haven Line splits from the Harlem Line and is the northernmost station on the line before it changes from third rail power to overhead catenary power, which takes place between the Mount Vernon East and Pelham stations. Then the route joins the Harlem Line and passes through: Wakefield Woodlawn Williams Bridge Botancial Garden Fordham: (same station as on Harlem Line) Fordham station, also known as Fordham–East 190th Street station, is a commuter rail stop on the Metro-North Railroad's Harlem and New Haven Lines, serving Fordham Plaza in the Fordham neighborhood of the Bronx, New York City. The platforms are situated just below street level and feature two expanded side platforms that serve eight cars each, on the outer tracks. The station building sits above the tracks on the Fordham Road (East 190th Street) overpass, and still bears the name New York Central Railroad on its facade. The station is among the busiest rail stations in the Bronx. Then passes through: Tremont Melrose Harlem-125th Street: (as per Harlem Line) The Harlem–125th Street station is a commuter rail stop serving the Metro-North Railroad's Hudson, Harlem, and New Haven Lines. It is located at East 125th Street and Park Avenue in East Harlem, Manhattan, New York City. The station also serves as an important transfer point between the Metro-North trains and the New York City Subway's IRT Lexington Avenue Line (4, 5, 6, and <6> trains) for access to the Upper East Side of Manhattan. It is the only station besides Grand Central Terminal that serves all three lines east of the Hudson River. Trains leave for Grand Central Terminal, as well as to the Bronx and the northern suburbs, regularly. Grand Central Terminal: Grand Central Terminal (GCT; also referred to as Grand Central Station or simply as Grand Central) is a commuter rail terminal located at 42nd Street and Park Avenue in Midtown Manhattan, New York City. Grand Central is the southern terminus of the Metro-North Railroad's Harlem, Hudson and New Haven Lines, serving the northern parts of the New York metropolitan area. It also contains a connection to the New York City Subway at Grand Central–42nd Street station. The terminal is the second-busiest train station in North America, after New York Penn Station. I hope you enjoyed this one, especially the Americans of you, put your thoughts below as always and from TrainGeek08, he's out of here back to the UK for the next suggestion, see you next time, bye
It would be its own separate route with the m8 layering into this route given how dtg say mergers can't happen any time soon due to the complexities. But it would be a nice route
I understand your reasoning here, I did mention that it probably won't happen at the start but yeah probably better off as a seperate route
Layers you need to consider Boston-Providence for Amtrak services from New Rochelle to New Haven Union Station. If you want to make it even better you might as well make it as NYC Commuter Network Newark, NJ to New Haven CT and NYC Grand Central Terminal to New Haven,CT/White Plains, NY. For Matt he said Common Origin point is still in effect
Probably not sadly as they have already done Harlem and DTG might feel that its too soon for another Metro North route
Yep, I knew I forgot something in the suggestion, yeah the ACS-64 and the upcoming Acela can layer on this route for playable services from New Rochelle and New Haven
It's not the upcoming us route for sure since it's ac electric. The m8 has 2 separate modes so the route code would represent that. Maybe in a future route since dtg have a mta license so they can create this route.
Correct but for trains 65 66 & 67 the twilight shoreliner/Night owl service usually have a viewliner I or II sleeper car with a baggage car ACS-64. How ever the late night schedule needs to have diesel services because during the late nights power is cut off for OHLE Maintenance seen on this trains 65-67 video if an amtrak diesel route or Metro-North P32AC DM is made Video of Trains 65-67 with Diesel locomotive
Saw this in the morning but I couldn’t respond, this would be a dream. I recently just picked up Harlem line and haven’t stopped playing!! I need the m8 so I don’t have to keep using the m7a in the red livery lol amazing suggestion
Thanks, yeah Harlem is an amazing route, all it needs is firstly the dispatcher (red light) issues fixed up then secondly the Hudson Line and the New Haven Line to supplement it, albeit being three seperate routes, it will still cover the main three Metro North routes which go into/out of Grand Central Terminal
I would love to see the M8 in TSW3. If they ever had screenshots and did a gameplay. I would definitely buy this DLC
I would love for the M8 to make its way to TSW 3 as we got the M7 two times now. It be nice to have a new experience and chance to boost traffic on the Harlem Line between Grand Central & Woodlawn. Since the New Trenten route was pretty much a fail I think they can redeem themselves with the New Haven Line since we have both the ACS-64 and the Acela trains. They would just need to make the M8. They technically already part of the route done already.
I think at somepoint add the M2s as well now that I think about it since we have LIRR M7/M3 & Metro North M7A/M3A. The M8 & M2 will be the new duo. I would imagine the new lighting and skies will come to Harlem Line if they make this route
The Harlem Line is good. It has not been dissolved a bug yet. ・The timetable cannot operate all, too. ・Unnaturalness of the stop position The base is good, but wants you to enlarge it after bug completed such measures to remain now from release
Completely agree, this could be a great opportunity for DTG to redeem themselves for the failure that was NEC: New York-Trenton
Doesn't sound too bad of an idea actually, M8 & M2 for base trains, means more variety so it ticks my boxes
I'm sure I mentioned that this would happen after all the issues regarding Harlem Line are sorted out but I totally agree with you, no-one wants a buggy Harlem joined on with a fantastic New Haven, it just doesn't work
They could include oak point yard, hell gate bridge for the Amtrak runs that go to Penn station.It would be another route for the Acela, ACS-64, some freight, lots of layering opportunities. Not sure if it would be able to handle all the scenery. This would be a great route. Regardless of when,I do believe this route would be the next US passenger route.
Well, who knows, wouldn't all the ex NEC: NY route be better with a new NEC route though? I get where you are coming from however in relation of the route passing through New Rochelle I think this will get made in the future at some point
Seeing the M8 and M2 in one DLC would be a dream. The M2s should have a bar car and the DLC should have a conductors option if you want to play as a conductor. But for the Hudson line I would love to see all equipment on the line. Not only that they should have a MOW (maintenance of way) scenario
That depends on the mileage between GCT and New Haven as it is whether the New Canaan and Waterbury branches are added
GCT to NHV (new haven) Union Station is 72 miles. Furthermore you are better off remaking the TSC NYC New Haven route for TSW 3 with New Canaan Branch. Talmadge Hill stop is on top of the Merritt Parkway CT-15 Here's a gameplay of the New Canaan Branch from TSC
Then it could be included with what this route would be called (New Haven Line: GCT-New Haven/New Canaan)
As much as I would love you have the entire New Haven line I don’t see this happening given DTG history. LIRR from Hicksville, Harlem line from North White Plains, NEC Boston to providence, NEC New York to Trenton. So with that said ,I have this route in TSC and it takes 2 hours to do a service from New Haven to Penn station. I believe in my opinion if this route is made in TSW3 it will be from Stamford which is about 1 hour from here to Penn station. It would include the NEC tracks from New Rochelle to Penn Station for Amtrak services.
Yeah I saw this comment in the other New Haven thread already and fair enough, at least Stamford is still a good starting place for a New Haven Line route to start
