Train Sim World 3 Chase Line: Birmingham New Street-rugeley Trent Valley

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  1. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to another suggestion by TrainGeek08, today I am suggesting the Chase Line for Train Sim World 3 as it can add layers to Birmingham Cross-City and could also potentially merge with that route in the future too


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    The British Rail Class 350 'Desiro' EMU in the above three liveries: The top one is LNWR, the middle is LNWR Interim and the bottom is ex-London Midland with LNWR branding

    Training (In Training Center):
    Class 350 Introduction

    Scenarios:
    Hednesford Stopper: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive a 350 from Birmingham New Street to Hednesford on an all stopper service

    Rugeley Shuttle: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive a 350 from Rugeley Trent Valley to Rugeley Town and back

    Brummy Storm: (Difficulty - 4)
    A tree has fallen on the line at Bescot Stadium, drive a 350 from Bescot to Birmingham New Street on a stormy encounter

    Cannock Chase: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive a 350 from Rugeley Trent Valley to Birmingham New Street via Cannock, where another 350 is awaiting having arrived ECS from Soho LMD in Birmingham


    New Barr, Perry? (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive the first 350 service to stop at the new Perry Barr station whilst on your way to Walsall

    Timetable:
    Same as Birmingham Cross-City's to enable layers to happen at New Street on either route

    Potential DLC, Layers and Stations coming up on Pages 2 & 3...
     
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    Potential DLC:
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    The British Rail Class 730 'Aventra' EMU (not the 195 to the left of it :D:D:D)

    Training (In Training Center):
    Class 730 Introduction

    Scenarios:
    Walsall Wanderer: (Difficulty - 3)
    Start your 730 at Bescot Sidings and drive it to Walsall and back to Aston while following a late-running Rugeley-Birmingham service

    Adventura: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive a 730 from Birmingham New Street to Rugeley Trent Valley on an all stopper service

    Birmingham Swap: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive a 730 from Walsall to New Street before picking up a 350 and taking that back to Walsall

    Layers:
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    The British Rail Class 66 'Shed' AGAIN from ECW/GWE/SEHS/RHTT for freight to/from Bescot Yard (please note, the Stobart Rail livery won't come as standard for this route :D)

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    The British Rail Class 323 'Hyper Networker' EMU for a) layering on BCC services and b) layering on the 350 services on the Chase Line

    Stations:
    Birmingham New Street:
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    Birmingham New Street is the largest and busiest of the three main railway stations in Birmingham city centre, England, and a central hub of the British railway system. It is a major destination for Avanti West Coast services from London Euston, Glasgow Central and Edinburgh Waverley via the West Coast Main Line, the CrossCountry network, and for local and suburban services within the West Midlands; this includes those on the Cross-City Line between Lichfield Trent Valley, Redditch and Bromsgrove, and the Chase Line to Walsall and Rugeley Trent Valley. The three-letter station code is BHM.

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    Duddeston is an inner-city area of the Nechells ward of central Birmingham, England. It was part of the Birmingham Duddeston constituency until that ceased to exist in 1950.

    Aston:
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    Aston railway station serves the districts of Aston and Nechells in Birmingham, England. The passenger entrance is on Lichfield Road. The station is on the Cross-City Line and the Chase Line. It is one of two local stations for Aston Villa Football Club (the other being Witton) and near to the Aston Expressway and to Gravelly Hill Interchange (Spaghetti Junction).

    Witton:
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    Witton railway station serves the Witton area of the city of Birmingham, England. It is situated on the Birmingham-Walsall Line, part of the former Grand Junction Railway, opened in 1837. The line through the station was electrified in 1966 as part of the London Midland Region's electrification programme. The actual energization of the line from Coventry to Walsall through Aston took place on 15 August 1966. The station, and all trains serving it, are operated by West Midlands Trains.

    Perry Barr:
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    Perry Barr Railway Station is a railway station in Perry Barr, Birmingham, England, and is one of the oldest continuously operated railway station sites in the world, having first opened in 1837. The station has been rebuilt several times, including electrification of the line in the 1960s, and most recently in 2021-2022.

    Hamstead:
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    Hamstead railway station serves the Hamstead, Great Barr and Handsworth Wood areas of Birmingham, England. It is located at the junction of Rocky Lane and Old Walsall Road, Hamstead, at Birmingham's border with the borough of Sandwell. It is situated on the Birmingham-Walsall Line, part of the former Grand Junction Railway, opened in 1837. The station, and all trains serving it, are operated by West Midlands Trains.

    Tame Bridge Parkway:
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    Tame Bridge Parkway is a railway station in the north of the borough of Sandwell, in the West Midlands, England, close to the boundary with Walsall. The station is operated by West Midlands Railway. It is situated on the Walsall Line 9 miles (14 km) north of Birmingham New Street, part of the former Grand Junction Railway, opened in 1837.

    Bescot Stadium:
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    Bescot Stadium railway station serves the Bescot area of Walsall in the West Midlands of England. (The station is located in the borough of Sandwell, although it can only be reached from within the borough of Walsall.) The station, and most trains serving it are operated by West Midlands Railway with some services being operated by London Northwestern Railway.

    Walsall:
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    Walsall railway station is the principal railway station of Walsall, West Midlands, England and situated in the heart of the town. It is operated by West Midlands Trains, with services provided by West Midlands Railway and from 2019, London Northwestern Railway operate a service from Rugeley to London Euston that calls at the station. The main entrance is situated inside the Saddlers Shopping Centre.

    Bloxwich-Rugeley Trent Valley on Page 3...
     
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    Bloxwich:
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    Bloxwich railway station serves Bloxwich, in the Metropolitan Borough of Walsall, West Midlands, England. The station, and all trains serving it, are operated by West Midlands Railway.

    Bloxwich North:
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    Bloxwich North railway station serves the town of Bloxwich, in the Metropolitan Borough of Walsall, West Midlands, England. The station, and all trains serving it, are operated by West Midlands Trains.

    Landywood:
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    Landywood railway station is situated in the village of Landywood in Staffordshire, England. As well as Landywood, the station also serves the adjacent villages of Cheslyn Hay and Great Wyrley (The former Wyrley and Cheslyn Hay railway station closed in the 1960s). The LNWR also operated an earlier halt at Landywood which closed on 1 January 1916.

    Cannock:
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    Cannock railway station serves the town of Cannock in the Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, England. It is situated on the Chase Line. The station and all trains serving it are operated by West Midlands Trains. The station is located over half a mile from the centre of the town, close to the suburbs of Stoney Lea and Hawks Green.

    Hednesford:
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    Hednesford railway station serves the town of Hednesford in Staffordshire, England. The station, and all trains serving it, are operated by West Midlands Railway.

    Rugeley Town:
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    Rugeley Town railway station serves the town of Rugeley, Staffordshire, England. The station is operated by West Midlands Railway, with services operated by West Midlands Railway and London Northwestern Railway. The station is situated around half a mile from Rugeley town centre. The station is located in Wharf Road.

    Rugeley Trent Valley:
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    Rugeley Trent Valley is a railway station located on the outskirts of Rugeley in Staffordshire, England. It is one of two stations serving Rugeley, the other being Rugeley Town. It is on the eastern side of the town close to the Rugeley Trent Valley Trading Estate and located close to the River Trent. West Midlands Trains operate the station, and all trains serving it. It is a minor station on the Trent Valley section of the West Coast Main Line. It is also the junction with the Chase Line from Birmingham and Walsall.

    That's it for this suggestion, I hope you enjoyed it, I would surely buy this if it came out for sure, put your thoughts below as per usual, always nice to see discussions regarding the suggestions so keep it up, anyway from me, TrainGeek08, I shall see you next time for another route suggestion, until then, goodbye ;)
     
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  4. SteveRail

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    Would definitely get this one, all for populating New Street
     
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    Yeah, agreed, New Street is so bare at the moment, not as per reality where it is full is trains leaving every minute :(
     
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  6. matt#4801

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    No a bad suggestion mate and as said it will help to pad out New Street a bit more. Good suggestion!
     
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  7. driverwoods#1787

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    Excellent idea and remember what is the origin of this route because Matt had a quote about it on how mergers will work.
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    If you want to merge this route with Cross City make the common origin being Birmingham New Street.
    Otherwise you would have the same situation in train simulator classic where Köln Koblenz Koblenz Frankfurt Kehl Straßburg Offenburg cannot merge with each other due to the different point of origin. For US routes TSC merger it's NEC 30th St to NY Penn not being able to merge with Morris and Essex lines North Jersey coastline Hudson and Northeast Corridor New York New Haven for the same issue as the German route Cologne Koblenz Frankfurt Am Main Koblenz not having common origin point.
     
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    Thanks mate, the whole point of this one was to bolster up New Street ;)
     
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    Yep, Birmingham New Street would be the origin point for the potential merge anyway and the Chase Line and Cross City Line share the tracks between New Street and Aston so would be nice for the Chase Line to come to TSW as well ;)
     
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    This would be a good addition to the sim. I think most, if not all Walsall services run through to Wolverhampton via Smethwick Galton Bridge so potentially that stretch of line could be included too.

    I have fond memories of going to Witton in the 1980's on the class 304 EMU's to watch Aston Villa.
     
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    Loads of freight runs up to Walsal as well so would need a decent freight timetable
     
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    I was debating whether to include Smethwick Galton Bridge and Wolverhampton ;)
     
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    I mentioned Bescot so yeah, it would a new freight timetable too :)
     
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  14. tibomatthijs

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    Yep good suggestion! Lot of stock that can come with it & that can be layered on it! 323 can layer on that route and 350 can than layer on BCC to make it bussier! The route itself looks very interesting too! 350 is sort of train we do not have in TSW and would be really welcoming to see! :D
     
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    Thanks mate, yeah that's why I suggested this route :)
     
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  16. Woroszyl The NS 2000

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    The image, which shows a Class 153, gave me idea of making it as an DLC to this route. (Class 153 i mean, not the image)
     
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  17. andrewandjane66

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    This was my local route in the 90s when I was a student at Perry Barr.
    Modern route would be great, but I'd love a 90s route with Classes 310, 304 and Civil Link liveried Class 31.
     
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    That was in the diesel era whereas I'm suggesting it in the electric era sadly ;)
     
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    Nice to hear from a local of this line, thanks for the input :)
     
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    I agree because all routes are designed that way in order to get mergers happening at a future point. An example is the base game route Southeast high speed extended the origin points are London Victoria Brighton and St Pancras station that way it can merge with Brighton Main Line East Coast way and Midland main line when needed. Kassel Würzburg Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg Main Spessart Bahn both use Würzburg Hbf as origin point. To make the route even busy with electric Freight locomotives your route needs to be sharing the same common origin as the requested West Coast Mainline South. TSC has BCC WCML South merged in a workshop route and basically a network out of Birmingham can be formed from merging Chase Line Birmingham Cross City and WCML South
     
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    The Chase line is quite similar to the northern portion of the Cross City line, it wouldn't feel different enough IMO. Much rather we had Stafford to Rugby via Nuneaton or New Street, more going on including express services with the Class 390.
     
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    Well, that's an entirely different route and goes through Rugeley anyway, not a bad idea at all ;)
     
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    Personally think both would be good to form a Birmingham Network, ideally the route to Hereford too.
     
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    This is a dream route for me because it is my local route
     
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    I would agree
     
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    Is it for the same route Birmingham Cross City but in a different era
     
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    Good idea and for that to work Common Origin Point needs to be Birmingham New Street otherwise a TSC NEC Philly NY Penn NJCL US and German Frankfurt Am Main Koblenz and Cologne Koblenz merge Situation happens that these routes cannot be merged with each other due to different origin points.
     
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    The whole point of this DLC would be to supplement BCC in the modern day and to maybe merge with it in the future

    Maybe an Electric Legends of Birmingham DLC for either Birmingham route for your 304s, 308s etc. ;)
     
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    I'd buy this, just to get the extra traffic in and around New Street layering to and from BCC.
     
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    Yeah, the route would layer the 350 onto BCC and the 323 from BCC can layer onto this route :)
     
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    Same here. Lol agree big time
     
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    Would the line via Soho also be included as that's where the Birmingham International - Rugeley services head via, rather than Aston, plus it would also make Soho Depot available for the Class 323's use
     
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    Good question, yes the Soho Lines would be included as they branch off by Perry Barr and run through Soho to get to New Street the other way ;)
     
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    that would be great as i feel like having a depot for cross city would make it just that bit more interesting and fun
     
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    Yep, Soho not only stables the 323s, but they stable 350s from the Chase as well ;)
     
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    Now with the Class 390 and Class 350 coming in Place the Chase Line will be amazing! Would offer 390 Runs from Oxley Car depot and 350 runs from the sidings. 323 Depot runs at Soho! Be Incredible.
     
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    Yep, that would be great with the additional stock from WCML South coming into play on this route along with the 323 from BCC :).
     
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