Train Sim World 3 Ecml London-peterborough

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  1. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    The East Coast Mainline is an arterial mainline that runs parallel to the A1 Road. Located in the United Kingdom, this route has a distance of around 597 miles (The most northerly point served by the mainline).Originating at Kings Cross and ending at Inverness, it connects The South East and the capital with Yorkshire, Norfolk and Scotland. Electrification on the mainline occurred between 1974 and 1990 with the line being electrified at 25KV AC as far as Edinburgh and recently as far as Stirling, with plans to electrify through to Aberdeen. it also has branches through to Kings Lynn, Cambridge, Ely, Lincoln,Leeds, Skipton, Bradford, Harrogate,Hull, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Glasgow and Aberdeen. For Train Sim World 3, I am suggesting a route from London King’s Cross/Moorgate to Peterborough. Spanning about 80 miles this makes it the perfect route for train sim world 3 as it has a healthy balance of commuter trains that link Norfolk and Cambridgeshire with the Capital (Thameslink and Great Northern) and Intercity services that serve Yorkshire and beyond. Set in 2023, the route should be quite busy timetable wise.
    ROUTE MAP:
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    TRAINS to be used on the Mainline
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    Class 800/801
    The British Rail Class 800 Intercity Express Train or Azuma is a type of Bi-modal multiple unit train built by Hitachi for the Train Operating Company. The type uses electric motors powered from overhead electric wires for traction, but also has diesel generator to enable trains to operate on unelectrified track. It is a part of the AT300 product family. Operational differences between the 800 and 801 is that the 801 is purely EMU.
    Class 802 Hull Trains
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    Difference between 800s and 802s is an uprated diesel engine making for better rail performance
    Class 803
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    Similar to the 801 they are purely electric trains, with the operational difference being they contain battery power in case of OHLE failure
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  2. this route has been talked about for a long time its one of the must its already on Train Sim Classic and even has the full route to Scotland via ATS and to leeds i can see this route in the future for TSW but WCML must come 1st
     
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    Class 387 Great Northern
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    The British Rail Class 387 is a type of emu passenger train built by Bombadier as part of the Electrostar family. A total of 107 units were built. It is dual volage meaning it can operate on OHLE and 750v third rail.
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    The Class 700 is an electric multiple unit train built by Siemens and procured by the Department for transport under the thameslink programme. They are also dual voltage trains and serve on the ECML
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    The Siemens class 717 is a dual voltage train used by great northern to carry out stopping services between london and stevenage.
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    The British Rail Class 91 is a high-speed electric locomotive, which produces power of 4,830 kW (6,480 hp); it was ordered as a component of the ECML modernisation and electrification programme of the late 1980s. The Class 91s were given the auxiliary name of InterCity 225 to indicate their envisaged top speed of 225 km/h (140 mph); they were also referred to as Electras by British Rail during their development and throughout the electrification of the East Coast Main Line. The other end of the InterCity 225 train set is formed of a Mark 4 Driving Van Trailer, built with a similar body shell to the Class 91 locomotives but with only one driving cab. The locomotive body shells are of all-steel construction. Unusually, the motors are body mounted and drive bogie-mounted gearboxes via cardan shafts; this reduces the unsprung mass and hence track wear at high speeds. The locomotive also features an underslung transformer, therefore the body is relatively empty compared to contemporary electric locomotives. Much of the engineering specification for the locomotive was derived from the research and operational experience of the APT. Class 91s hold the uk speed record at a top speed of 162mph (261km/hr)

    STATIONS
    King’s cross
    Finsbury Park
    Harringey
    Hornsey
    Alexandra Palace
    New Southgate
    Oakleigh Park
    New Barnet
    Hadley Wood
    Potters Bar
    Brookmans Park
    Welham Green
    Hatfield
    Welwyn Garden City
    Welwyn North
    Knebworth
    Stevenage
    Hitchin
    Arlesley
    Biggleswade
    Sandy
    St Neots
    Huntington
    Peterborough
    SCENARIOS
    Class 800/801
    Flying Scotsman:
    Take the 05:40 LNER Flying Scotsman service from north of peterborough delayed at a signal, non stop into king’s cross

    The 801 at 8:01
    Take the Class 801 from bounds green to London King’s Cross and prepare the 8:01 service for leeds, taking it as far as stevenage

    Highland Chieftain
    Take this Class 800 bound for inverness as far as Peterborough, making a stop at Peterborough only.

    Northern Lights
    Drive this aberdeen service as far as peterborough, but be careful snow delays and engineering works means tight schedules and unpredictable signals

    Express to Edinburgh
    Drive this 10 car 801 bound for Edinburgh as far as peterborough making stops at stevenage and peterborough

    Introduction to the 800 Series
    Learn about operation and usage of the Class 800 Trains

    Class 91 Scenarios
    the 225 at 2:25
    Take this LNER Class 91 bound for York as far as peterborough making stops at Stevenage and Peterborough

    East Coat Electrics
    Climb aboard and take the special Class 91 in its iconic LNER Swallow livery as far as peterborough non stop

    Imperial Intercity
    Relive the Intercity days and take this special liveried intercity train to peterborough bound for newark north gate

    Class 387 Scenarios
    Ely Express
    Drive a non stop 387 as far as hitchin calling only at stevenage and hitchin ( would work with cambridge DLC mentioned below)

    Semi Fasts to Peterborough
    Take this train non stop as far as stevenage, making stops at all stations from stevenage

    Early Morning Delays
    Take the Cambridge bound train as far as Hitchin, but due to delays you will operate on the down slow throughout so lookout for delays

    Class 700 Scenarios
    Cambridge Commuter
    Drive a Class 700 stopper from King’s Cross making stops at finsbury park, potters bar, welwyn garden city, welwyn north, knebworth, stevenage and hitchin.

    700 at 7:00
    Take the Class 700 operating from horsham on a fast train to peterborough making stops at Stevenage, Hitchin, Huntingdon and peterborough

    Sevenoaks Semi Fast
    Drive a semi fast from Welwyn to Finsbury Park making stops at Hatfield, and potters bar

    Class 717 Scenarios
    Northern City at Night
    Drive the 20:58 stopper to welwyn garden city calling at all stations

    Cold Commuter
    Drive from Stevenage to Moorgate calling at all stations

    Rush Hour Hero’s
    Drive the Class 717 on a slow service to Welwyn Garden City on a delayed schedule with loads of trains and Loads of Delays

    Class 802 Scenario
    Paragon!
    Drive a hull trains express as far as peterborough north junction non stop

    Class 803
    Bimode Blues
    drive this train on a battery test run from bounds green to king’s cross

    DLC
    Cambridge Lines:
    a 24 mile extension of the Mainline through to cambridge with stations including Letchworth Garden City, Baldock, Ashwell and Morden,
    Royston, Meldreth, Shepreth, Foxton and Cambridge

    Hertford Loop
    Drive another one of Great Northerns Principle routes as you go through north london through the hertford line, drive a slow stopper service through these stations and explore the bustling area of greater london and hertford


    Legends of the East Coast
    Drive a plethora of Intercity Locos, Network South East MUs on the east coast and relive the glorious british rail days, set in the sectorisation era, expect to see a diverse collection of Liveries.
     
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    TRAINS to be included in the bundle
    Class 317 (Network South East)
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    Class 313 (NSE)
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    Class 365 (NSE)
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    Class 43 Valenta HST(BR Blue/Intercity Executive/Intercity Swallow)
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    Excellent idea and if you have this route end East Coast way what will happen is that the game will start spawning the newer version more than the ECW DLC 313/2 sort of like SEH displacing the older ECW and GWE Class 66 versions more. Let me guess you did the requested East Coast mainline South King's Cross Peterborough. Class 700 needs AP sounds as opposed to 395 AC 444 DC TSC
     
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    DLC 4
    Diesel Legends of the East Coast
    Set in the early 80s drive a plethora of iconic east coast trains loved by the older generation of railfans, master the tricky trackwork at king’s cross and drive dirty diesels down through the east
    TRAINS to be used
    Class 55 Deltics
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    Class 47
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    Class 08
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    Class 43 BR Blue (Valenta)
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    definitely, the 700 sounds on tsc are awful, and yes i did, i’m not really versatile with ECML freight but i wrote down everything i knew
     
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    No the ECML needs to come first for 2 reasons: 1. If done modern day all that is needed is the 80x class of trains and a 700 to make the southern section convincing. From this the 700 can layer back onto SEHS and LC and the 80x can be used on most modern mainline routes in the future. This wouldn’t happen with WCML as the 390 and 350 aren’t very widespread across the network.
    2. The ECML is just better in every way than the WC: faster, more modern, more scenic, plenty of variety and less curves and hills !
    Also people who live on the EC are the best and luckiest people in the country!;)
     
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    agreed
     
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    "Via" ats wouldnt be the best way of putting it: That merge was made by somebody outside of ATS (A dedicated TSC merger) The only routes built by ATS themselves I belive are as follows: ECML to Kings Llyn, Fen line and Chat moss. There SUB only routes I BELIVE are made by high quality route devs - If any part of the ECML needs to be built by ATS its south.
     
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    Well I personally think the MML is way more scenic yeah - ECML > WCML. WCML is only really wanted for that pendolino lets be honest - ECML is wanted not only for its 800/700's but also becuase its an actually interesting route.
     
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    as much as i love the ecml i would take the west coast anyday to be honest, the west coast has bigger stations, more depots, more freight and is scenic, the ecml is still amazing but the west coast tops it. Only reason i want a east coast before a west coast is because the trains can be used more, and higher speeds and it’s practical, bust west coast over east coast, still love both of them a lot
     
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    i’m currently in the making of a very in depth suggestion for this route too, will have it up later:):)
     
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    this is probably one of my most in depth suggestions , i’ve given scenarios, and extensions and DLC set in 2 eras (Sectorisation/BR Blue) this is basically a suggestion for every type of person
     
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    i struggle to think of names for scenarios so i haven’t included that, but i’ve done everything else too
     
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    i’m gonna make a peterborough to york suggestion later today, gonna tie it in with this suggestion, i just need help linking them together
     
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    me personally i’d prefer the london - peterborough section as there’s more variety in services with stuff like commuter runs and that
     
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    yeah, true but i wanna tie them in as one
     
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    To add to my thread above
    Depots:
    Hornsey Depot
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    Hornsey Sidings
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    Bounds Green
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    Peterborough NENE C.S.
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    thanks for the clarification
     
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    You can also include LMS Jubilee no. 45596 Bahamas on the route doing railtours between London Kings Cross and Peterborough, just like on Southeastern High Speed Extended.
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    yep as dlc
     
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    would that not just be a layer?
     
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    oh yeah, it can work as that
     
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    the ecml york to peterborough was rebuilt and updated by ats
     
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    We need this for tsw would definitely buy
     
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    and add the Flying Scotsman A3 Locomotive
     
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    that would tie in with DLC 4
     
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    Spot on and Allan will Feature that on his Twitch channel
     
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