Armstrong Powerhouse Wip Dlc News

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  1. Wivenswold

    Wivenswold Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Peter, I think you misunderstood me. I'm talking about when you're running on ambers and looking out for a faint hint of yellow or red in the distance.

    I'm well versed on working practice, I may have joined later in 1989 but the training was still very thorough. Like your good self, I've been lucky enough to be in the cab of many long-extinct classes of units and locos. I've driven under instruction, my career took me towards safety and investigating crashes though.
     
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    LOL joking aside it is nice to see some realistic signals in the sim will certainly add to the realism
     
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  3. Cuddy_Man

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    I'll wait to see what's in the released pack, but I have to say that a coloured light signal enhancement pack isn't at the top of my wish list.

    The ability to see them clearly at a distance would be desirable and RSSLO have shown that's doable, but will varying delay between lights switching add much to my gaming experience? I'm not convinced.
     
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  4. inversnecky

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    Looking forward to this, as some of the colour light renditions are a little unrealistic: shining like a bright beacon when you are further away, then dim as you get close.
     
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  5. inversnecky

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    Sorry, I’ve not had a chance to keep on top of things much this last year, but was there not a suggestion that AP might be working on a Class 47?
     
  6. Doomotron

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    Yes, there was, and also the suggestion they've been sending 'interesting' emails to others considering to make their own.
     
  7. 749006

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    I think it's because we tend to take a few more chances in the game than we would in real life.
    Running Yellows can keep you alert - Double Yellows are better to chase.:)
     
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  8. Cuddy_Man

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    Has anyone else noted that the DTG Class 47 seems to have got better recently? Sound occlusion in the cab is much better and the engine and horn now sound properly muffled compared with outside.

    Might this be a result of it's widespread use in the Huddersfield route. From what I'm now experiencing, I wouldn't feel the need to rush out and buy an AP 47; assuming they make one.
     
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  9. fakenham

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    Very nice looking EP, will really breathe some life into the routes that use those signals. Hopefully the LEDs will be enhanced as well? Would get me back into TSC a bit more.

    And I'm also really hoping that they've implemented approach control from red, not yellow as the current DTG TSC signals do. And also that the flashing yellows clear to green at the control signal if clear (DTGs stay on yellow whatever) - that would be the icing on the cake for us signalling fans.
     
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  10. Blazin

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    Here is some more information about Armstrong Powerhouse’s upcoming Signal Enhancement Pack.
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  11. inversnecky

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    Looking forward to this. Any release date mooted yet?
     
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    Nothing on AP site or facebok but it cant be far off giving the daily videos we are seeing.
     
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  13. fakenham

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    Looking really good, I'm hoping they save the best teaser video until last....(realistic app control).....
     
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    I'm wondering how this will be implemented
    Will it overwrite the UK Pro signals or provide a new set?
     
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  15. fakenham

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    I'm pretty sure it will just overwrite any DTG UK signals, but probably not the original kuju signals as they used different scripts....I think.
     
  16. fakenham

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    Just noticed more functionality on these signals in todays article - you can assign a signal to stay at red until passing a marker, with a random delay. Sounds interesting. Would be good if you could assign a marker for a signal to be a random red or green? That would give a lot more playability for scenarios which are currently a bit fixed in the outcome. Would be harder to implement though I think...

    Also noted are markers for call on signals which is a welcome addition.

    All looking very promising! More new things to come as well.
     
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    Some more details today.....

    SIGNAL ENHANCEMENT PACK - PROJECTED LIGHT
    At night and 30 minutes before sunrise/after sunset, signals will now emit light that illuminates objects in front of them.
    For the more realistic appearance of light during dawn/dusk, the brightness of the light is steadily reduced from night to 30 minutes before sunrise and vice versa at dusk. This is instead of it instantly turning on/off at a pre-described time.
    For performance reasons, the degree to which the light is faded out/in at dawn/dusk can not be calculated continually on all signals so as a compromise, the brightness is calculated upon scenario load on all signals and continually refreshed on signals that are in proximity to a moving train.
    Finally, LED signals emit more light than the dimmer incandescent variants.

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  18. martschuffing

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    Great news re their latest facebook page update - approach control. I've a feeling a lot of signalling tweaks will be done to various routes, although it's great to see that some signals will be automatically converted to a more realistic app control if DTG ticked the signal boxes in the editor.

    So I was thinking, what would be a good route to check out the functionality when AP releases their pack. South Wales I think, plenty of junction sigs there. So I thought I'd just check out the sigs in the editor to make sure that DTG have ticked the boxes for the appropriate junction signals (flashing yellows, app from yellow). 95% sure they must have done this? ....Nope.

    To be fair, I think they have done this for most of their other routes, but a bit surprised they haven't done this for SWW. However, I only checked this for Lanwern/Usk area, haven't checked other areas, but I'm assuming if they haven't done it there, they haven't done it for the rest of the route...

    Anyway, really looking forward to the pack, hopefully they'll be a scenario or 2 from them showcasing the new functionality.
     
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  20. Blazin

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    There has been a lot of posts by Armstrong Powerhouse recently, so here is some screenshots of their recent posts about details of the upcoming Signal Enhancement Pack. This is post 1 of 2 because there are more posts by Armstrong Powerhouse than I can fit in one post.

    SCENARIO TRACK MARKERS
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    PROJECTED LIGHT
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    APPROACH CONTROL
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    WHERRY LINES UPDATE FOR THE SIGNAL ENHANCEMENT PACK
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  21. Blazin

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    Post 2 of 2!

    MORE TRACK MARKERS
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    MANUAL
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    Because of the release of the manual, I think we are very close to the release of the Signal Enhancement Pack!
     
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  22. 390001

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    I think it is still a bit to go tbh watched the stream on Alan Thomson last night
     
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    lol it was only posted on facebook 5 minutes ago, were you refreshing the AP website or something?!
     
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    Friend told me it was released :P
     
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  26. inversnecky

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    I had a go on a few routes, and it looks great, especially the relay sequencing.

    Now AP must turn its attention to the ultimate endeavour in Train Sim improvements - a Pylon Enhancement Pack, that once and for all replaces the taut thread like transmission lines with suitably sagging graceful arcs. Then I will finally be able to sleep at night :)
     
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    AP Animal enhancement pack.
     
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  28. martschuffing

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    AP track audio enhencement pack.
     
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    Wooden post pack £14.99
     
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    Passengers that don't look like zombies pack!
     
  31. KTL_Rob Powell

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    Having had a play with it this weekend I must say I am thoroughly impressed with what the pack is capable of and can see it getting much use, not just because of the artistic changes but, the opportunities it opens up for both scenario authors AND route authors!
     
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    May I ask those who have the pack if the signals have realistic visibility?
    From my time on the railway I recall that from the intended angle, even incandescent signals were bright from a driver’s perspective thanks to the signal lens. Looking at the YouTube videos I’ve seen so far, the AP signals don’t seem to stand out much, making them harder to read than in reality.
     
  33. inversnecky

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    I’ve had a couple of hours on TSC since installing the EP, and haven’t noticed any visibility issues, and these were on scenarios with stormy rain.

    I presume it’s a fresnel lens on the incandescents, which focuses the light.

    At least the default views, where a very bright light at a distance becomes dimmer as you got close, seems more realistic now, as this doesn’t happen with the AP EP.
     
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    Sorry I worded that poorly, Peter. I meant that it’s more realistic now because that dimming change no longer happens. Have edited my post to clarify.
     
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    Armstrong Powerhouse has uploaded an image that is open for speculation. I think it is possibly teasing a new update or 2.0 version of the Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack, as there are other screenshots further down Armstrong Powerhouse's page that has new weather that I have not seen before with the Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack.
    Here's the post.
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    Here is another post made on the 28th of December 2022 when the Signal Enhancement Pack was first announced and it features detailed cloud patterns that I haven't seen before from the Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack which potentially hints at what I mentioned about a possible new update or version of the Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack.
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    Here is another post made this time on the 18th of November, 2022 which features new cloud patterns that I also haven't seen before.
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    I've checked the trailer and store page for the Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack and it does not show any cloud patterns like those.

    There are 2 other posts with different weather that may be new weather made by Armstrong Powerhouse but I am not sure so it would be good to get some confirmation on these if anyone can tell.

    This seems to be new overcast weather, but I can't tell if it's just the regular overcast weather used in the current Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack or not. I'm pretty sure it isn't.
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    I doubt this is Armstrong Powerhouse's weather but this is another weather pattern that isn't in the Sky & Weather Enhancement Pack. I assume it is the default sky for the Huddersfield Line: Manchester - Leeds Route but I don't own that route so I cannot confirm.
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    If so, it does look amazing and really adds to the realism of the scenes.
     
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    I think I saw speculation on Discord about some new Sky and Weather pack-related screenshots. I suspect it is indeed related, but we do not know yet if it will be an update or a separate pack.
     
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    Richard was on one of Alan Thomson’s Twitch streams recently discussing the Signal EP and confirmed this is in the works. In fact, IIRC he said the Signal EP came about because be needed a break from the skies which have been hard work.

    He said that the new skies in TSW3 had been a wake-up call and that he felt the need to get TSC on a par. These screenshots are definitely related to this product & I’m hoping the fact that we’re getting more means it’s not far from release.

    All I can say is thankyou AP. You make this game what it is for me.
     
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    This ^
     
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    I imagine it will be the same as the wherry lines update where if you own it you pay a small fee to update if not you buy the new version at full price.

    won’t be a new pack AP wouldn’t have 2 weather enhancement packs and the word “update” got mentioned in the stream

    Just my thought giving recent product updates
     
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    Speculate no more..

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    Shots 1, 3 & 4 particularly….wow.

    I suspect this is merely the tip of the iceberg.
     
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    That looks incredible day one buy for me for sure. However no doubt the usual complaint comments will appear shortly
     
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    I'm with you on that one 390001, deffo a Day1 purchase.
     
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  45. KTL_Rob Powell

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    yup day 1 from me as well
     
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    I also agree about a day one purchase! This pack looks absolutely amazing, I am definitely going to buy it. :love:
     
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    Can we expect some scenarios from yourself :)
     
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    Once I've finished what I'm currently working on you bet your bottom dollar.

    People were afraid that I might lose my passion for TSC after I got my job BUT if anything it reignited it :)
     
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    Great news, good to hear you have not lost the passion, looking forward to your latest ventures.
     
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    Excellent to hear mate have enjoyed your current offerings and I am sure your next ones will be incredible as well thank you.
     

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