PS4 Beheaded Mutant Trains Causing Red Light Issues

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  1. Pipe

    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    After a longer absence on german routes I suddenly felt in the mood to drive some services on HBL and RSN. Rushing through the landscape, I got suddenly a red light in Bad Oldeslohe. This would be a nice (and rare) touch everynowandthen, except this time the signal wouldn´t turn green. I´m a patient guy but on the 2D map I noticed a Dosto consist some 2km ahead of me which had a green light but wouldn´t move.
    So I went over there to have a look (see video). WTF is going on here???

    I had this on RSN as well and thought it was a one-off. Bot noooo ...
    So let´s document it here (not that I think DTG will do anything about it, they probably give a rat´s arse in usual fashion.) But maybe a fellow forumite has a solution for this mess. And no, I didn´t use the savegame feature and YES I did rebuild my database.
    • Issue Summary: Beheaded and awkward train consist causing a red light blocking issue
    • Platform: PS4 TSW2
    • Game Mode: Journey
    • Route Name: HBL
    • Loco Name: DB BR 112
    • Service/Scenario Name + Start Time: RE80 11462 Hamburg - Lübeck at ~10:20h
    • Step-by-Step Instructions: See description above. Basically leave Hamburg, drive the route always on the speed limits to be on time, until Bad Oldeslohe. There get p+++++d ...


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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    As serious as this issue is, "beheaded mutant trains" had me howling in laughter!
     
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    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, scary, isn´t it! ;)
     
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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Especially if the devs of Choo Choo Charlie decided to make a sequel based on that!

    Is it on all German routes or just the two that you stated?
     
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    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    For now I saw it happening only on HBL and RSN. Will try to catch more. It ain´t easy because when the .....beheaded .... ermm...loco-less train passes you, it´s already to late to record. Hopefully this is just sorta one off. And I haven´t the first clue about the root cause since it has been a while I´ve not driven on these routes. I´m suspecting the addons-manager since that thingy eliminated lots of layers and introduced other weird stuff. Though, that´s just a guess.
    But if it is the addons manager ..... you heard it here first! :cool:

    Below another mutant blocking the road, although looking at a green (RSN).

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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    It's not a one off, many people have reported this.
     
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    I've encountered something like this twice: a few dostos including a cab car, but no loco. It wouldn't move, causing a permanent red light.
    In both cases, restarting the service helped: the AI train spawned with a loco and it moved, and I was able to complete the service.
    I don't know what route(s) though.
     
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    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    I´ve tried to drive a specific RSN service TRICE at the same day always with the same result: First you encounter a beheaded freight train just sitting there on the mainline (5km before Plettenberg). Hmmm, it´s not on your mainline so you can continue, but it sure won´t ever move and continue blocking that line. Then, after Hohenlimburg you get a red light because of two of those either beheaded or Frankenstein Dosto compositions. One is on the contrary mainline (the picture above) and the other is ahead of you causing the red signal.

    Now, yesterday I´ve driven that very same service again (for documentation here) and this time without any trouble on my way. Just when I left the train in Hagen for roaming on foot, a headless coal train (Falns) passed me on the Hagen freight line into TSW Nirvana. However, the 2D map showed a moving loco there ...
    It seems for some reason, under certain circumstances the AI traffic isn´t loaded correctly, incomplete and/or with the wrong consist build.

    It´s the kind of bug I can live with, as long as it is the occasional one off.
    But when I went to HHL and found what´s described above, I started to worry about and decided to post it here.
     
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    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    Just another variation of deranged mutant and Frankenstein trains, this time on DRA in TSW2 on PS5:

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    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Upset to see the 423 bug spread to the Talent 2, but very pleased to see a single DoSto coach so heavy that two 143s are needed just to get it moving!
     
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    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it´s probably the money train from Großenhain to Coswig. :cool:
     
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    VIP TRAIN? Dovetail Game Staff being honored for all the top notch GERMAN Routes.Plus there's a very happy man wearing pink piggy headphones at the controllers.
     

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