Return Of Sw1000 With New York - Trenton?

If Sunnyside Yard is included in the new New York - Trenton route, do you think there is now a chance that we could get the long awaited return of the SW1000 from TSW2020? One of the screenshots on Steam seems to show what looks like Sunnyside Yard.

While I never played it myself, it was my understanding that it was a pretty decent little loco. It would be nice if this is how it made its return.

 

It would definitely be a welcome addition in the future.

 

And that's the new home of the LIRR!

 

Good/hopeful news

 

From what I’ve seen of the SW1000R, the only bits of gameplay it included were 4 timetable services and 2 scenarios (one of its 3 scenarios was used for the cab car). Sunny side Yard also has a 5 mph speed limit, so its 4 switching services didn’t exactly look all that fun. But still, it’s a very nice locomotive, and I’d gladly see it return!

 

Something similar to the CalTrain MP15 would be pretty cool. Empty stock moves, MOW operations, shunting, etc.

 

Damn, didn't know that. That's a bummer then.

Well... LIRR MP15AC it is then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) LIRR could really benefit something like that with all the freight yards and sidings on the route.

 

Ok, while I would like to see the SW1000R coming back, but why at this same spot as last time that, let's be frank, haven't even operated there in the first place. This is the one thing I don't get.

 

Oh yeah, aren’t these switchers more common in Washington DC?

 

Washington was where they did their reference trip.

 

If you guys do bring it back in the future, and for this new route, you should include some of Amtraks long distance stock that is used on the NEC, the Amfleet IIs and Viewliner Baggage, Diner and Sleepers.

 

More or less, but yes.

Of course, the more accurate loco for Sunnyside is the GP15D, but guess that depends if DTG can make it like they did with this Switcher.

 

Best value for the sw1000 is actually making it as a livery pack the Amtrak version having Viewliner II Sleeper Baggage and Diner Car and Cajon Pass getting them as the 3600s working inside Barstow Hump Yard with working retarders. The reason for this is that Barstow is actually the American equivalent to Nahverkehr Dresden Rbf Dresden Friedrichstadt RRO RSN HRR Hagen Vorhalle SKA Aachen West & Köln Gremberg Hump Yards.

 

For those on PC there will soon be a way to play the old SW1000R scenarios (Keystone Cutting and New York Nuisance).

The MP15DC is my own and is more than just a reskin. It's a completely separate unit. It just shares sounds, physics and collision with the SFJ MP15DC (which means you need to own it).

This is a project between Foobian and I to restore old NECNY scenarios. We were using LIRR as a base but now with NYT we can restore even more, including the. Amtrak Cab Car scenario Back To Front.

I'd love to see the original SW1000R return but hopefully this can hold some of you over until that time ever comes.

-Yuri (aka Lunamoon)
Your Local Pain-In-The-Ass Modder

 

You're not a pain lol

 

But with more flexibility when it comes to scenario planner consists. It needs to be able to do more than just move ballast cars.

 

Damn, you guys are wizards. Looking forward to try these ones out.

 

That seems minor and way more believable then for example the ability to put 1435mm(standard guage)trains on 1000mm(arosa/chur)track.

 

Perhaps a way to bring it back would be to also include a similar loco as well and have it as a double pack, which would ironically be the same way the SW1000R launched. Unless I misheard the new Acela has scenarios for both Boston and New York, so why not have the SW1000R and its scenarios for New York to Trenton and the other version have scenarios for another route which would make the pack seem more worth it because you get to play with it in more varied circumstances.

 

Well in their case it would be an official content, while putting standard gauge trains on Arosalinie on scenario planner is something that you can do for yourself just for fun. It makes sense that official content tries to be realistic, it's good that way.

 

You know if DTG had paired up the ACELA express with the SW1000R switcher both being Amtrak that would have made a great combo a even better deal and brought it back in a unique and more interesting way. A real win win and with way things have been we could all use a win.

 

The 'Fast And Slow' Double Pack. Actually, not a bad idea.

 

Again, Amtrak's SW1000s are retired; in fact, they are all retired except for two that Via operates in Montreal. And Amtrak never operateed them in Jersey anyway; they were at Washington's Ivy City yard.

 

It's still 2 separate locomotives that each require a lot of work to bring them up to tsw3 standard so selling as the price of 1 wouldn't really make sense.

 

I cant fully find the specs, but I wonder how hard it would be to hack the SW1000r/SW9 into a SW7? We really dont have a route or railroad that used any SW9's, but we do have 1 that had SW7's, The Clinchfield Railroad. And they had 6 of them.

A SW9


A CRR SW7

 

Or just any route in general that would have any SWs running, even if it means jury rigging the SW1000R into a different model of switcher at this point.

 

And to add further. Not much like the idea of these switchers with generic liveries on them, but since the modern times have them mostly owned and survived by shortlines and industrial companies, guess that leaves limited options for both yards and sidings if so.
But doesn't mean I do hope to see them in a historic route like CRR, would give good opportunities for some switching work from an actual switcher in the yards or sidings instead of a stand in from a road-switcher (not saying that's a bad thing, but you get my point).

 

Well, there are quite a few possibilities that come to mind with routes already in the game:

• Clinchfield Railroad SW7 add-on
• 70/80s Peninsula Corridor with Southern Pacific era trains (either full Southern Pacific, or transition era when the first CalTrain F40PHs were put in use), which could use a Southern Pacific SW9 as well
• 70/80s LIRR with M1, any other passenger train and LIRR SW9 switcher
• Chessie System retro pack for Sand Patch Grade (similarly to the Chessie System pack for Train Simulator)
• Santa Fe retro pack for Cajon Pass
• Union Pacific retro pack for Sherman Hill

 

By that time the SW9s were rebuilt into SW1200E's. Also I believe those units since they were originally owned by subsidiary TNO and SSW, they mainly stayed in Texas and Louisiana, and were not seen in the Bay Area, The MP15DC was more common out there (Caltrians 2 units are both Ex-SP)

-http://espee.railfan.net/tnosw09.html
-http://espee.railfan.net/spsw1200e.html

 

Ah, I didn't know that, thanks.

 

Model specifics and timelines aside, the SW series being as generic and similar as they were to each other could be placed almost anywhere in the North American game routes and be pretty much at home. Perhaps fitting it in somewhere is not the objective we should look at here and instead lean more towards it being a loco DLC that the user can place where they like and customize as they like for uses as they see fit?
Yes, in modern times most of these are far long out of service by the big railways but they do survive, particularly on smaller short lines and industrial railways some repainted, some not. They make sense in many ways if you can bend your mind past small differencing details, timeline errors, and/or being stuck in the present with blinders on.
This could also be an opportunity for DTG to try something a little bit different by way of creating services/scenarios of an industrial nature in which case these switchers could be implemented to operate in industrial liveries at places like the cement plant in CJP, or a tanker / auto facility in Oakville (Ford has/had their own SW), or a larger coal tipple in CRR, or may other examples that would suit other routes and their individual trackside industries of a larger nature. Even as smaller connecting lines shuffling trains in or out of a major rail route with minor running rights to & from a yard.
OR.... if really adventurous create a new route based on the Corinth & Counce Railroad that used almost entirely SW units for switching and line haul for its 16 miles of trackage....
From Wikipedia:
"The Corinth and Counce Railroad was a Class III railroad operating freight service between Mississippi and Tennessee. The line was built in 1959, expanded in 1974 and sold in 1991 to a new owner who changed the railroad's name. Today, some of the Corinth and Counce's trackage is operated by the Kansas City Southern Railway."

Just my random thoughts on the matter.
The SW is very versatile and amenable to many situations, no need to pigeon hole it to a specific route. It can and does survive playing many roles.

 

Not sure how many people would want just a plain black switcher to run with on any route.

 

Better than nothing and a kick in the teeth i suppose!!

 

Well, with Livery Designer it could be used on pretty much everywhere for fun, just like all the MP15 liveries already on Creators Club.

Though how would something like that be sold? No "home route" at all, just a sandbox switcher to use in Livery Designer and Scenario Planner?

 

I'd love a Clinchfield SW7 especially if the team used this as an opportunity to introduce TOD4 to CCR. Not that keen on an unbranded generic SW9 personally

 

Hypothetically speaking a Clinchfield GP7 high hood would be very tempting and hard to leave on the shelf.

 

That I think could be a good concept. While an unbranded switcher might not be appealing to most people all by itself, it could definitely add value to a bigger pack if it were part of it.

In any case, if the model already exsists and is reusable, then it would be a shame to "put it away".

 

Gotta say, I really like this idea, would bring a “vintage” American passenger route to the game, the only backdated American route we have so far is Clinchfield after all.

 

I'm not sure why people don't like the unbranded idea, especially with the creator's club meaning you can brand it as you like (on all platforms). If it could moonlight as several different things then why not sell it as a base model for painting, it happens in modelling.

What would be nice is to be able to make a route or scenario interact with the Creators Club to say only select the livery from those liveries tagged with the same route. Then you could subscribe to several liveries for a loco and the game will use the appropriate one depending on which route you are playing. If you have several tagged with that route then pick one at random. There could be a checkbox in scenario designer and settings to say only use route specific liveries.

This would be great for this shunter but also for things like the HST, which will have many liveries.

 

A GP7 or 9 would be an awesome little addition to CRR for yard work and short runs.
"A little unbranded switcher" wouldn't remain unbranded for long though. Many of us would be reskinning them in LD for use on our various routes and/or as freelanced railways for use in SD. It would definitely find itself to be a welcomed and adored loco by many.

 

The issue with an unbranded loco (any) and skinning it via creators club is the zero control over which version turns up on AI, for example say we get an unbranded switcher with layers on SPG, Clinchfield, Trenton & Boston, we couldn't download 4 suitable liveries from creators club without a rouge livery appear on the wrong route. Fix that in creators club and then yeah an unbranded switcher becomes more compelling purchase (and Creators Club more interesting to me atleast).