As TSW 2020 New York route was a an experimental route for the upcoming New York to Trenton route for TSW 3 I was wondering what old TSW routes would DTG would upgrade/improve? If I asked DTG to upgrade older route my example would be as follows: 1. East Coast Way (Brighton - Eastbound/Seaford and Hastings) 2. Great Western Express London Paddington - Redding/ Bristol) 3. Long Island railroad (New York - Hicksville/Far Rockaway Branch/Hempstead Branch/Long Beach Branch and Oyster Bay Branch 4. London commuter (London, Victoria - London bridge/ Sutton and Mole Valley line and Brighton) 5. Peninsula corridor (San Francisco - San Jose/Gilroy) Those are just my suggestion What older routes would you ask DTG to upgrade/improve what would they be and why? Time for the community to share their thoughts?
GWE needs to be upgraded with a extension and NTP needs timetable fixes and some glitches fixed also it needs a refresh if a calder valley line is added.
East Coastway expansion to Hastings and the Wivelsfield connector. Bahnstrecke Hanau Asschaffenburg Laufach Heigenbrücken Lohr Gemünden Main Spessart Bahn link to the Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg (Kassel Wilhelmshöhe Würzburg Hbf) via the Nantenbacherkurve and a tunnel between Laufach & Heigenbrücken. From Würzburg to Asschaffenburg via Nantenbacherkurve Lohr Bahnhof its 40 minutes both ways. Also allow 182 to run the 01:57 Asschaffenburg Hbf 02:37 Würzburg Hbf trip this is EN420/421 EN424/425 Amsterdam/Brussels Midi-Wien/Innsbruck Hbf.
GWE and LIRR. GWE is good, but too short, it could use an extension. LIRR needs either a whole overhaul (like NEC) or at least a signalling fix and busy timetable.
For GWE an extension to oxford via didcot, the many branches that branch off from this section for gwe so we can have some proper extensions. Fixes to DLOTGW as a result of a GWE extension so it can be changed to actually look like the 1970s rather than the 2010s and appropriate rolling stock for 1971 that aren't trains that had looks post 1971 like the class 47, 31 etc. For NTP just class 31 passenger services, more busier depots and yards plus some fixes to the mk2a not being sittable and the 12 ton van not being present as stationary stock in free roam.
so for LIRR me i think could be a upgrade for the route new timetable and new signalling and a expansion of the route and Rolling stock M9 and DE 30 AC + C3 pilot coach for GWR me i think that 2 expansion are possible one to oxford and the last to Bristol the rolling stock class 166,165,387,43,66,800/802 I think the line must happen in 2019 so another expansion i have twoo expansion for SKA line the first is from Koln to Wuppertal,Hagen and the second is to Dusseldorf and maybe to duisburg and bochum connection with the RE 1 and rolling stock Rolling stock including for this route to Duisburg BR 462,IC pilot coach,422, roling stock for this route BR 403,423,425,101,401,406 (AI only at koln),185.2,185.5,146.2,442,363, and to wuppertal,hagen rolling stock including BR 422,412. rolling stock timetable BR 403,401,101,422,185.2,185.5,146.2,G6 train.,363 and AI train 425,423,442,406
GWE needs the various freight and passenger branch lines between London Paddington and Reading as well as extending to either Didcot or Oxford. The branches should have been included to begin with as there is currently no other feasible way to add them without a route rebuild and it just seems wrong that they ate absent. Whilst rebuilding the route, the opportunity should be taken to add the Class 165/1 and 180 dmus to bring this busy section to life. ECW would be a good candidate also if rebuilt to include the Wivelsfield branch and perhaps even extend to Hastings and/or Ore. NTP is a fair distance at the permissible line speeds but could be upgraded to feature the Calder Valley Line and some new rolling stock, in particular the Class 123 and 124 Transpennine sets and possibly Class 128 DPUs and Class 141 Pacers.
My greatest expectations for the reconstruction of old routes: 1. Sand Patch Grade (the first-born deserves the most love): new sky, illumination, dynamic weather, improved vegetation and environment, new schedule, new layer of DLС GP40-2, new layer of DLС SD70М, new layer of DLС R42DС. 2. LIRR: new sky, lighting, improved vegetation and environment, new schedule, new layer of DLS DM30As, MP15, M9; it would be great to get any route extension. 3. Brighton Main Line: one of the best routes should get all the existing improvements. A new layer of DLS BR class 700 is mandatory. I would really like to connect with the southern coast and run from Victoria to Eastbourne. Any extension of the route would be very welcome. 4. Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr: this short section is part of one of the most congested lines in Germany, which cannot be felt in TSW. It requires improved like no other. In its current form, it should not exist. Expansion for it is mandatory, at least to the Dusseldorf-Duisburg-Bochum-Dortmund format, ideally to Cologne. New busy schedule, lighting, improved decorations. I'm really looking forward to it and I believe it will happen. After all, this is a section of an important high-speed highway. 5. Ruhr Sieg Nord: one of my favorite routes and I want it to get all the improvements for TSW3. I dream that it will be completed in the classic version and extended to Siegen. 6. Southeastern High Speed: I understand that this will not happen in the foreseeable future, but I really want a combined route from TSС London Victoria + St Pancras to Dover / Ramsgate (Via Faversham) to be implemented in TSW3 based on this route. This is amazing work, I want to drive full routes 375 and 465 on a route that looks like it's finished. work in the workshop - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1298545317
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, however some of us like the route and personally I have fond memories of this route dating back to the early 1990s. It is also a superb starter route with almost flat profile to easily learn high speed running.
The two mostly for me would be extend ECW to Hastings/Ore and the TVL to Bishop Auckland and put in the Boulby branch. A new timetable for NTP would be nice. I think personally if GWE is altered, it really needs starting from scratch maybe in a more up to date time period with working electrification or going back to an early time. Certainly it would be great to see something like Paddington to Oxford. I would love to see RSN extended to Seigen as in the original rail simulator route.
I agree with the northern trans-pennine upgrade. Needs an overhauled timetable, more locos/dmus and should be extended to York to get some good thrash to 100mph. (This will make ntp 25 miles longer) or from Huddersfield get the line that goes to Leeds via the Calder valley line to get better commuter services. Also GWE should have an extension to heathrow airport so we can get Heathrow Express services and get the Class 332s to do those services.
I'm voting for Sand Patch Grade! Remake the AC44CW into CSX rebuild AC44CWM/CM44AC/CM44AH, new timetable service, longer trains, and fixed braking physics (both dynamic and air).
GWE with an extension to Swindon or Oxford or Newbury definitely, set it in 2019 before hsts got taken off intercity runs to have a balance of older and newer trains, Or set it today and just make a 800/802 and include the class 387 and have it run to swindon or even bristol
iIt goes without saying that we would have preferred to upgrade all older routes at once and that everyone would prefer to have a route from their region or country upgraded first. For planning and time reasons, however, the routes that will be given an additional DLC will be the first to appear. After Boston Sprinter and Sherman Hill, West Cornwall Local will probably be next because it's getting a matching steam engine DLC. Then certainly Munich Augsburg, because the BR420 S-Bahn is coming. I think this order makes the most sense for DTG from an economic point of view.
For LIRR the way to overhaul it might be by making LIRR East Side Access and Port Washington Branch and the missing Hicksville to Ronkonkoma section of the Main Line. That section had electric M3 service since December 28th 1987 when the Hicksville Ronkonkoma electrification project was finished. East Side Access adds more traffic at the Harold interlocking. For NYC TSW related content tag me or golden ticket
I would love an TSW 3. Improvement/ upgrade to East Coast Way is my favorite route besides, London commuter. It would look so awesome in TSW 3 standards
Best value for RSN to Siegen Hbf is merging it with SKA via Bahnstrecke Köln Siegen if applicable. TSC Bahnstrecke Hagen Finnentrop Siegen has an Intercity DB Baureihe 101 with IC Steuerwagen Steam locomotive DB Baureihe 052 freight DB Baureihe 189 those should now be standard for RSN extended to Siegen. If a network was formed with RSN & SKA both extended to Siegen Hbf trains will be 406 442 DB Baureihe 120.2 Doppelstockwagen IC34 Norddeich Mole Finnentrop Siegen DB Baureihe 101 with IC Cab Car Freight 189 shunter 290
If the expansion is Long Island City to Jamaica via Fresh Pond Yard, that would give us an ability of bringing New York and Atlantic Railway into LIRR in TSW3.
would Love a modern day NTP with an extension to Manchester Piccadilly via Guide Bridge with the 185, 802, 158 and maybe the 68 in future (68 would be better off in a Leeds/York-Scarborough route though) or GWE with the 800, 387 (needs slight modification to become /1 for GWE and Heathrow Express) and 345 with the extension to Heathrow and Maybe Bristol Temple Meads with a 166 layer
Its not too great in TSW the one thing that ruins it for me is when the coaches go past it makes a horrible sound
I don't think an extension to York is the right way to go just because we will have 2 pretty much empty stations and not enough trains to run on that part its likely that we get the 185, 802 and 158 which means that we would be missing the 195, 220, 221, Nova 3, 170 where as Manchester-Leeds is a more closed network because Victoria only sees TPE and Northern.
