Train Sim World 3 German Route And Train Wishes

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  1. Fassja

    Fassja New Member

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    Here are some wishes i have. Starting with routes. Its a really big list.

    1. Hamburg - Flensburg with junction to Kiel
    2. Hamburg - Westerland with branchlines Husum-St. Peter-Ording and Niebüll-Dagebüll
    3. Hamburg - Bremen
    4. S-Bahn Hamburg complete S3 (Pinneberg - Stade)
    5. Hamburg - Hanover
    6. Hanover - Kassel ( maybe as extension for KWG)
    7. Hanover - Berlin
    8. Hanover - Minden - Bielefeld
    9. Hanover - Hameln - Paderborn
    10. Bremen - Osnabrück - Münster
    11. Hamm (westf.) - Norddeich
    12. Flensburg - Kiel.
    13. Lübeck - Puttgarden with junction to Travemünde (maybe as extension for HBK)
    14. Berlin - Dresden
    15. Berlin - Leipzig
    16. Frankfurt (Oder) - Magdeburg
    17. Berlin - Hamburg
    18. Moseltalbahn Koblenz - Trier
    19. München - Nürnberg
    20. Frankfurt(Main) - Basel
    21. Fulda - Hanau - Frankfurt (Main)
    22. Complete AKN Routes Line A1, A2, and A3
    23. Nürnberg - Würzburg
    24. Nürnberg - Erfurt - Leipzig
    25. Lübeck - Bad Kleinen
    26. Rostock - Berlin
    27. Schwarzwaldbahn Offenburg - Konstanz
    28. Höllentalbahn Freiburg - Donaueschingen

    and some extensions:
    For DRA und DCZ: Extension to Decin
    For MSB: Extension to Frankfurt (Main) and Würzburg
    For RSN extension to Siegen
    For HRR extension to Düsseldorf

    Now the Trains and Wagons:

    1. BR 218
    2. BR 159 Eurodual
    3. BR 193 Vectron
    4. BR 151
    5. BR 152
    6. BR 648
    7. BR 643
    8. BR 642
    9. BR 440
    10. BR 445 Twindexx
    11. MaK DE 2700 with RDC Autozug ( for Hamburg - Westerland)
    12. VT2E and VTA (for AKN Routes, VT2E for line A1 and A3 and VTA for A1 and A2)
    13. IC 1 Cab Car
    14. ICE 2
    15. ICE 4
    16 ICE T
    17. BR 120
    18. BR 189
    19. BR 147
    20. BR 474.3
    21. BR 140
    22.Married Pair passenger Cars

    This are only wishes i have, and thats not all. The Complete List is 3 sites long. Maybe some wishes will come true.
     
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  2. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    The 218 is being made by tsg after his 232 releases. Said 3d modeling would start soon but it probably won't see a release for a few years
     
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  3. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like you got an extensive list here some of them are actually long-distance extensions of existing routes Main Spessart Bahn Kassel Wilhelmshöhe Würzburg Hbf Nahverkehr Dresden Hauptstrecke Hamburg Lübeck towards the Eisenbahnfahre Puttgarden Rødby. DB BR189 does belong on Hollandstrecke Duisburg Arnhem Utrecht 156km since some of the locomotives use a C-Akv couplers for Iron Ore and Coal trains.
    ICE-T fits on Nahverkehr Dresden because it is the actual train that runs there for ICE Wiesbaden Dresden Hbf via Frankfurt Flughafen. 147 can be made from a 187 remember it has the engine room working to access brake selector battery
     
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    He said dont expect it this year indacating it will come next year.
     
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    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Indicating that it will not come this year - nothing more. It might be 2 or 3 years, for example, before we see it.
     
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  7. Sparmi

    Sparmi Well-Known Member

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    DTG always sets a kind of timetable for the coming fiscal year: If the BR218 is planned as a DLC for next year, then of course the focus is on that. If it only appears as a locomotive DLC, i.e. without a route, because suitable routes and wagon material are already available, you can put even more focus on things like sound and driving physics. As always with Maik's care and quality standard we don't have to worry. ;)
     
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  8. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Don't 3rd parties have their own schedules on when to release. Like Maik could take as long as he wants?
     
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  9. Sparmi

    Sparmi Well-Known Member

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    Of course, as a 3rd party, you have more freedom and are not so tightly integrated into the DTG pipeline. Not being under time pressure is also a good thing, because you have more time for physics programming and to identify any bugs that may appear, i.e. it helps quality assurance. But you also don't want to wait too long before final release, because the customers are getting more and more impatient and you ultimately have to finance your livelihood with the finished product too.
    A good example of a long announced DLC for TSW is the BR420 S-Bahn for MAG. I think it was already announced 2 years ago, but it was postponed again and again. It may have been because other projects got in the way and/or because last spring DTG decided to switch to TSW3 from the summer. This led to a postponement again, because maybe it makes more sense to release the BR420 together with the MAG route upgraded to TOD4. So the tutorial can also be switched to the Training Center.
     
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  10. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on and for the BR420 it can then be modified to become Stuttgart and Rhein-Main versions the last one being seen as S6 AI at Bad Villbel S8 Mainz Hbf Linke Rheinstrecke
     
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  11. lux#4689

    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    In the future, a VT95 or VT98 would be nice.
     
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  12. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about their East German equivalents the DR BR171/172 otherwise VT98 VT95 does look out of place on RT DCZ and Riesa-Dresden if set in the GDR era.
     
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  13. Sparmi

    Sparmi Well-Known Member

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    I would also like to see a former DR route, preferably in the early 90's, shortly after reunification. There are already a lot of ex DR locos in TSW. Rivet's BR204 needs a physics upgrade anyway and Livery Designer capability, since it's currently on the track with a gear shift like in a car. It would be great to see it with 4-axle Reko wagons in passenger train service or in front of local freight trains. The BR143 and BR155 fit perfectly into the era, as does the upcoming BR232. If you do it cleverly, you make a route near the former inner-german border. So the BR218 or the BR363 can also stop by. This would also address former West German players. In any case, the nostlgia wave must continue for a while and the ICE4 can wait... ;)

    I also like the ex DR BR120 Taigatrommel. They were exported all over Eastern Europe back then and until recently they are still on tracks for private railways.
     
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    Was just thinking about this yesterday. A new DR route would be the perfect opportunity to bring the 204 physics in line. Apart from that it is quite the decent loco even though one of the oldest DLC. As the class 150 now has a gotten a proper phyisics update, I am convinced that Rivet is indeed capable of doing the same for the 204.
     
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    Glad to hear that. I think the more pressure is built up, or let's call it feedback in the forum, the greater the chance of being heard by the developers. ;)
    In my opinion, a second upgraded version of the BR204 would also make the most sense, be it in connection with a new route or in an expansion pack. Of course it was also the very first DLC by Rivet for TSW and they had a learning curve with it. I think they should be done with the patch for Edinburgh-Glasgow and just working on the steam expansion pack for WCL. After that, a new route will certainly be planned, hopefully there will be some time left for the BR204 too!
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    absolutely correct and back when it was still divided what happens in some border stations like Helmstedt Marienborn DB BR232 DR BR132 pulls in and waits for a 110.3 or 103 to stop there and take it over all the way to West Berlin Zoologischer Bahnhof. Picture here it's taken by a British Army soldier at Helmstedt Marienborn Border Station . The same Station also has a Yard perfectly suited for 363 owners for shunting N-wagen DR UIC Y-Wagen that also includes the Intercity which was called Städteexpress orange and cream paint. 204 engines needs to be the original VEB Kühlautomat Berlin Johannistal KVD type otherwise wrong sound
     
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  17. lux#4689

    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    I was more thinking about a new route with those, not a loco-DLC for an existing route.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    OK then since there are two German Railbus West Germany VT 95 & 98 East Germany DR BR171. For VT98/95 maybe Finnentrop Olpe/Kreuztal Gießen 1960s
     
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    If they did a route withh a VT95/98 I would be disapointed if they do not also do a 211, 212 or a 213.
     
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  20. tibomatthijs

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    I see some amazing stuff on the list! Hopefully some things will come! Not everything can come, atleast not soon :D
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    DB BR211 212 & 213 it's also known as the West German Deutsche Bundesbahn V100 since it's basically the same as the existing DB Baureihe 204 DR Deutschen Demokratischen Republik Baureihe 110-112 DR V100 locomotive. Pre October 1990 German reunification you would have duplicate locomotives of the same capability heavy freight electric BRD DB Baureihe 150 & 151 = DR Baureihe 250 DB BR and Shunters DR BR104-106 & DR Baureihe 110-112 = DB Baureihe 363 & 211-212. Long distance Intercity services DB BR 110 103 & 120 = DR Baureihe 211 242 243 & 250 Städteexpress DR Y-Wagen UIC Produktfarben Colours. If you have that then the Railtours will be comprised of your DR Städteexpress orange and cream paints being pulled by DR Baureihe 211 242 250 diesel DR Baureihe 132 rare occasions DB Baureihe 103 110 & 120. Diesel V200 DB BR220 & V160 DB BR218
     
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  22. seblay1608

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    Life hack: just suggest every german route and train and you have good chances that some of them may come ^^
     
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  23. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    How about International ones basically the one they should be prioritizing are two of them Wunderline Bremen Oldenburg Leer Ostfriesland Bad Nieuwschans Groningen 173km & 156km Duisburg Oberhausen Arnhem Utrecht Centraal. The last one will make Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr busy with trains at Duisburg Hbf & Mülheim an der Ruhr Styrum
     
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    Thats a good one! :D

    Good luck making that list though, by then the half of it will be already released!
     
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  25. Sparmi

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    I think it would take 5-10 years to work through and implement the whole list. On the other hand, it's only German content, if the UK and US list is so long too, we'll add another 5-10 years to it. ;)
     
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  26. Fassja

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    That's right, you could do that, for example, but I'm not interested in all routes, so I'm only interested in these few wishes. Luckily these are just suggestions. No one expects all routes to be made. And before hundreds of threads are opened, a list with several routes and trains makes much more sense. It is enough if only one of the routes mentioned would come. Even my complete list would not include all routes in Germany by far. These are just my favorites from the whole list. Cologne - Koblenz, Cologne - Frankfurt, Lübeck - Kiel, for example, are routes that don't interest me at all.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Good point and I am wondering if you are interested in international route extensions to existing routes. These are 129km Wunderline Oldenburg Groningen (Bremen Oldenburg) 156km Duisburg Utrecht HRR international and lastly 90km Dresden Hbf Aussig an der Elbe Riesa-Dresden international sections. If you own the international segments with existing routes you get the following on Bremen Oldenburg a DB BR646 PZB ATB version Riesa Dresden DB BR180 HRR DB BR189 & 408.
     
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