Hey everyone, TrainGeek08 here, and today I am sharing an idea of mine on consists in Scenario Planner (this one's for you DTG Matt) BR Class 20: BR Class 20 x1 + Mark 1 Coaches x4 (WSR Mk1s) BR Class 20 x1 + Mark 1 Coaches x6 (WSR Mk1s) BR Class 20 x1 + Mark 1 Coaches x7 (WSR Mk1s) BR Class 20 x1 + Mark 1 Coaches x8 (WSR Mk1s) BR Class 20 x2 + Mark 1 Coaches x10 (WSR Mk1s) Same consists with Mk2 coaches too BR Class 31: Same as above BR Class 37: Same as above BR Class 37 RF x1 Light Engine BR Class 37 RF x2 Light Engine Same with the West Cornwall version Any more SP consists on the UK, US or German sides (French/Canadian/Swiss trains too), put them below so Matt can see what he can do for us
For the Germans 182 with IC Carriages from the DB Baureihe 101 Because in real life the existing 182s ES64U2 Carries out the overnight sleeper train services on the following routes Linke Rheinstrecke Koblenz Bingen Mainz Frankfurt am Main Süd Main Spessart Bahn Schnellfahrstrecke Köln Aachen 21:39 Aachen Hbf 22:10 Köln Hbf Kassel Würzburg 01:57 Asschaffenburg 02:17 Lohr Nantenbacherkurve 02:37 Würzburg northbound 02:41 Würzburg Hbf 03:01 Nantenbacherkurve Lohr Bahnhof 03:21 Asschaffenburg Hbf the same service becomes Linke Rheinstrecke 04:51 Mainz 05:40 Koblenz trip
Just off the top of my head in addition to existing available options... because I have been operating this one a lot lately. MP15DC *This unit is very limited to loco, loco/loco, loco/locos & the ballast cars from Pen Corr no matter the other route used. It has for more potential for activity in a realistic manner than as an MoW loco. Options that would be nice to have when being used in other routes... MP15DC x1 w Caboose (if the gamer has the correct route) MP15DC x2 w Caboose (if the gamer has the correct route) MP15DC x1 w other loco(s) MP15DC x2 w other loco(s) MP15DC x2 mixed freight x whatever length MP15DC x3 mixed freight x whatever length MP15DC x4 mixed freight x whatever length MP15DC x2 specific cars x whatever length empty MP15DC x3 specific cars x whatever length empty MP15DC x2 specific cars x whatever length loaded MP15DC x3 specific cars x whatever length loaded MP15DC x4 specific cars x whatever length loaded Arrangements = elephant, cab-cab, nose to nose. *selectable in planner as a button/switch vs a preset choice. F40PH2C -- Selectable as a loco without its passenger train cars. In any route. Note: this unit will not spawn as a chosen reskin in Oakville - only as CalTrain. It would also be very welcomed to be able to select specific locomotives when selecting an MU'd set or consist... ie: multiple different paint schemes, multiple different numbers, &c within the SP consist instead of repeated clones. examples : CN GP40 (game version) + CN GP40 (reskin style A) + CN GP40 (reskin style B), or CNGP40 (game version) + CN GP40 (reskin style A #101) + CN GP40 (reskin style A #105) This is to give more control over loco variety and numbers as all reskinned locos will spawn as clones which is unrealistic. In essence I guess the "ultimate" SP options would be that all gamer owned locos & rolling stock are listed and and made available to pick and choose at will - regardless of route - to create your scenario.. rather than being bound by certain developer decided options. But that's a whole other discussion me thinks ;-)
You know guys... if you are on PC then you can just download Unofficial Editor and then create those consists by yourself, you dont have to wait for Matt Just create new plugin in editor, create formations there and then cook the mod, pak it and you got your formations (in formation editor you need to tick option for scenarios too).
Well I have and am going to continue to presume that this thread is based on console limitations and frustrations and not PC game play. Though, I could be mistaken. I am Xbox 1S and for us consolers it is very frustrating to not have more control. Or at least as much control as PC does with their off developer add-ons. We don't have that option and so are relegated to asking politely through these forums. A lot of what we are presenting is stuff that just "should be" already available in our mind's eye. If I did play on PC I would definitely be using the mods to make my game play more enjoyable and customizable.
Close enough, the reason why I made this thread was that Matt mentioned in the charity stream that lots of forum users where pinging him regarding formations in Scenario Planner so I thought that the community can give Matt some ideas for future Scenario Planner formations
I don't know why DTG didn't implement a consist editor in the first place but I would love it in game
DTG Matt , collecting them Here in the thread instead of sending you a DM as said on the Stream. My Ideas for formations for Vanilla scenarioplanner are: 143/112/146/204 with n wagen (only with the Locos leading, so theres no issue with the missing cab car controls.) 110/112/182 with IC Coaches and 101 top and tail formations, as well as the 101s nightjet formation from Kassel Würzburg with IC Coaches and the car carriers at the Back, maybe with a 182 also 66/45/47/37 with Mk3 coaches: The 66 can couple to the buckeye couplers of the carriages directly, for a Class 47/45, you'd need a Mk1/2 coach between the loco and Mk3s, as it has both types of couplers and thus acts as an adapter from buckeye to normal couplers. Would be great to do Something like the night riviera or use the Mk3s outside the HST Some interesting ECS Formations. e.g. The TGVs Coaches, which have a normal coupler at the front and back of a set, put a habbins at each end, a 182 at the front, and you'd have an interesting ECS Move like this And in general more special formations used in the games scenarios, like the 66 infront of the HST from the Drag line scenario, BROs Museum train with the 363 and n Wagen, BROs PbZ, a single ICE Power Car etc.. They all already work in scenarioplanner with my ini mods, and work on console to, so they are tested and would just need embedding in scenarioplanner and a proper name instead of the noname formation (Screenshot of how my scenarioplanner looks)
Thanks And the formations i use arent even modded together or done with the unofficial editor, the special ones are always formations that didnt make it into the scenarioplanner, but are used in the game, so it knows them already (No Name Formations in the Screenshots above) Thats why they work via CC on consoles too
Ah, so if the formations are in game, why would DTG miss them out, a lot of scenario creators on console would be able to make wacky scenarios like the scenarios made on PC
My ideas: LMS Jubilee + 5 Mk1s + Class 47 LMS Jubilee + 7 Mk1s + Class 47 LMS Jubilee + 10 Mk1s + Class 47 2x Class 47 + 6 Mk2s 2x Class 47 + 7 Mk2s 2x Class 47 + 8 Mk2s 2x Class 47 + 9 Mk2s 2x Class 47 + 10 Mk2s 2x Class 47 + 12 Mk1s Class 43 HST + 5 Mk3s
A few more I'd like to add: BR Class 47: 47/4 x1 + 5 Mk2s 47/4 x1 + 5 Mk1s (NTP mail) 47/4 x2 Light Engine 47/4 x2 + 12 Mk2s 47/4 x2 + 12 Mk1s (NTP mail) 47/4 + 10 Mk2s + 47/4 47/4 + 8 Mk2s + 47/4 47 x2 Light Engine 47 x2 + 10 Mk1s (WSR passenger) 47 x2 + 12 Mk1s (WSR passenger) I would love the NTP 47/4's suggested formations be added to the 45 and maybe the 40 as well
DTG should throw Scenarioplanner in the bin and start again. It is by far the worst designed part of TSW, unfortunately. There is not any activity on this part. Hopefully there will be time once the addonmanager is working.
They announced Scenario Planner 2.0 in 2021 then removed it a few months after, we need an update on how that's going and if any progress has been achieved, but that's if it is being worked on, I thought Scenario Planner would be better than what it is, with features like placing trains down on any track like on TSC but seems not, we'll see what DTG will say about any future plans of SP going forward
And i think they know. If they talk about TSWs Creation Tools, its Always about Livery Editor, the Livery Designer gets updates, it appears in Streams and Creators Club ist for your awesome Liverys ) (and maybe some scenarios if you feel like it, idk) The scenarioplanner is desperate for overhauls.
Yep, agreed , it is well-known that LD is more preferable than SP at the moment, it's only scenario creators like you and I and many others that are keeping it afloat, it really needs this 2.0 update more than LD does
Since it's been removed from the roadmap, I would guess work on SP 2.0 has been stopped for the time being. Most likely the management saw low engagement with the existing Scenario Planner (because it's use is VERY limited) and decided to not follow up with 2.0
Yeah... it's a shame, tons of wasted potential. Something like the Activity editor in ye olde MSTS would be enough, but I can see two big hurdles for DTG. Making it work reasonably well with a console controller and with the internal dispatcher.
Ok Tom I'm hooked. Whats the scenario and locs skins for these pics please? That looks fantastic. Hentis
Unfortunately the Screenshots are from a Savegame scenario from TSW 2 Times, so it (the scenario) doesnt even work in PC anymore. But you could still recreate the formation in Training centre and it would work, you can uncouple the TGV Loco from the coaches by getting between them with the 2 camera
