Not wanting to stoke a fire, but it's also not the most interesting or visually appealing. as others have said, it also would just be another GWE type dealio where you just power up, sit at full speed and then stop again. Not really riveting gameplay.
I really want to enjoy TVL and NTP, but I just do not like the 101, is it easier with a raildriver than it is with Keyboard and Mouse?
Fair enough, but some people do, me included. I do quite enjoy being able to have a chill run in the HST. But I appreciate that most people here enjoy the busyness of doing stoppers or the challenge of freight, as do I, but again, I do quite enjoy a nice chill run in the HST.
I’m fond of 86/87s and 90s even though in all truth they are the same locos with bodywork differences, but yea i would love a 86/87 on a proper intercity route, no fun in driving 50 miles
yea, i cherish the longer high speed intercity routes and even the stoppers, i feel like that’s where TSC takes it over TSW, i would like to do a london - edinburgh on TSW 3 or even a shorter london - sheffield because these are routes i grew up with, others might prefer shorter lines and that’s perfectly fine honestly, i don’t like KWG because it’s too one dimensional i think
i can understand the appeal about that, i feel like longer diesel routes are better backdated specifically to the sprinter/early voyager/HST era though
it can be done in 21 mins to be exact, 21 is short for a HST or even an IET, trains like those are for the hour - six seven hour services
London to Peterborough without any branches has the same amount of stations as BML while only being 26 miles longer , it’s when ppl start asking for the hertford loop, northern city line and fen line where issues occur because of the amount of stations
that’s subjective, and it depends, not everyone wants to drive in a 1970s built rustbucket, it depends on the person
people don’t enjoy HSTs on this game because there’s no where you can drive it to compared to TSC, we wouldn’t see that many people whining about fast trains being boring if we had more access to route length and timetables, i can guarantee that for sure
if these routes had more stations, i would appreciate them more, i’m more into that semi fast train, every now and then i do the fasts, and this is why i love BML and GWE they have a balance
Yeah, definitely! Which is why I am also so desperate to see the ECML or WCML come to TSW too for the same reason. It's also what SEHS does quite well, made even better by all the "branches" (if you want to call them that) it has. Although would love to see an actual branch for SEHS, *cough* Sheerness *cough* :p
that’s what i’m saying, an ECML south for instance (even though we all know it would sell like hot cakes) even though it’s pushing 80 miles to peterborough would be perfect, GN from moorgate to welwyn in 45 mins, Thameslink Semifasts to Cambridge and Fasts to peterborough, Great Northern Fasts to Cambridge (at least), LNER to Peterborough with 800/801s and 91s, and Lumo for stops to stevenage (Hull Trains and Grand Central for more northern DLCs) that’s more than enough for me, i travel on that line everyday and it’s so nice for TSW
I hope we never again see the likes of LGV or Kassel, they are just massive snooze-fests. I do however enjoy the 395 and ICE on SEHS, Munich, and Koln because the routes themselves are so much more interesting, have varied traffic, and many other activities are available. BR HSTs were detested by spotters when they were new, but they actually have more character than 90% of modern plastic units (which is saying something). So I am actually looking forward to Midland Mainline, even if they are “gelded” since the removal of the Paxman Valenta engines.
if they do put the ecml in then they should definitely add the cambridge branch just up to letchworth which is like a mile off the mainline as it would add more services and a somewhat more realistic stopping point for the 387s to cambridge/ely as their first stop is usually there, also there’s carriage sidings for 717/700 ecs moves
If it's done properly the 158 could be good, probably my favourite of the earlier Sprinter classes and of course at home on many non electrified routes outside the South and South East from the early 90's onwards.
I personally wouldn't count on it being great, particularly sounds as proven by the class 150 and also the newly released 37 ROG. There is no going above and beyond to make it spectacular anymore, like it was with the class 20 and class 31.. As these routes are released with a time scale now to meet business needs, what you get on day 1 is how it will stay I assume. I don't hold out much hope in all honesty.
There’s a freight loco available for TVL (Class 31) that can pull the 101 as part of the timetable, so you can do the passenger services with it. Might be worth the few bucks if it’s on discount in case you like the route, but not the 101. I personally love it a lot, switching gears feels very intuitive with the controller. I don’t use safety systems (yet), so this is one of the few trains that gives me more to do than accelerating and braking (which is nothing bad at all, I enjoy a relaxed train ride while listening to music).
Good point and they are like the Metro-North M8s OHLE Third Rail Positive Train control equipped. In Germany Class 700 = DB BR490 474.3 Hamburg S-bahn HVV Third Rail OHLE PZB EMU. You don't need a keyboard to play a class 700 since AWS TPWS doesn't use PZB Override release and acknowledge controls but the German equivalents 474.3 490 do need it if you are on console.
So excited for the Class 700! Just really hope to see this on London Commuter though. I remain optimistic it will not just be for SEHS considering the route just literally got an exclusive loco with the 37, plus an extra livery for the 375. Thus, I'd be very surprised if the route got another exclusive loco add-on in a very short space of time with the 700 - so fingers crossed for London Commuter.
yes, still not always used in the core however it’s being rolled out across the ecml south and should be complete by 2030
I mean, they did specifically say that the 37/7 is just a slight remodel and reskin. No audio changes were made or planned.
Absolutely agree, so then it comes down to whether a 76 mile route with over 20 stations is achievable by DTG and whether people want another London centric modern electric unit based route
I agree, they did announce without sounds being adjusted/amended. My point being, why would they not offer to give more detail about the future DLC (MML), you know to please a few people, by stating it does come with sounds (particularly AP sounds). I am sure they would want to give back to the community after so much doubt has been posed about the game/sim as of recent times.
Oh yeah, true, I am apprehensive about MML. I'm setting my expectations low, so I can't be disappointed
I suspect it wouldn’t go down with quite a lot of users especially old 80’s basher geezers like me. If anything London based I think the line out of Liverpool Street towards Colchester might be more interesting. However, regardless of era we are really due a decent cross country diesel route - p/o Norwich to Birmingham, Welsh Marches or even the Wherry Lines plus Sheringham. Basically something completely different to what we have now.
I think from a UK point of view a longish route or a larger network type route would be nice, even set in the modern period. Having recently driven the TSC MML from Leicester through to Sheffield it isn't really a long route and we are only getting the line to Derby so personally whilst it is nice to see a UK diesel route I don't feel that excited by it and even the class 158 services will only be a segment of their actual services, as they all seem to go to Matlock, Newark or Lincoln. Something like Bristol to Birmingham or Bristol to Swansea would be good, somewhere to stretch the legs of a HST more and offer shorter distance local services. Some of my favourite routes are the shorter ones as they feel complete, for example Cathcart and Cross City.
Cardiff to Cheltenham up the Lydney line... Used to be 158s, then 170s and now sprinters and 170s Include South Wales traffic, Gloucester to Birmingham traffic... possibly extend in future with a Bristol to Bromsgrove line which is also within the TSW line length scope All pie in the sky nonsense of course...
i feel like in general, a lot of people would buy an ECML south, but i can agree with adding these branches if the route becomes successful, like SEHS. Maybe then you can justify adding the hertford loop or the line to kings lynn
This is where I start mentioning (whisper it) TSW4, and the major advance here is automated timetable generation... That way they can put in portal junctions, allow much longer timetables to be put in and then IF the player has the relevant DLC the game will allow the longer runs. That way if they do adjacent routes, the timetables just extend without further dev input on those specific timetables. Now I'll just go round up my herd of flying pigs, tend to my mermaid's hair and saddle up the old unicorn to go for a ride
The undisputed route to stretch the legs of a Hst is between york and peterborough . 112 miles of full non stop running or even york to newcastle. Tbh you could argue that north of peterborough at least it would be much easier to add in the whole ECML than say the southern part of the west coast
Timetables are made manually... see Joe the Fish for examples... They can copy paste and adjust etc, but they don't go beyond the bounds of the route map that I can see... So trains may "portal in and out" of the map itself, but if you join another route onto this one, that portal wouldn't then disappear because the game knows about those other map tiles, and be able to extend the current timetable onto stations it now knows about (which it didn't before)
so if portal junctions get added to TSW, that basically means that routes can be merged? say they are in the same era and have a similar timetable
Newcastle to Edinburgh is much more scenic and a little more challenging than flat-out running, although it unfortunately has a lot less local traffic. A deltic would be the preferred motive power though lol.
My thought’s exactly lmao, the 700 is also a completely different train by a DIFFERENT manufacturer. Would be nice if they added the ‘siren’ noise when pulling away, assuming they will because they did the distinct sounds for the 465 and the 323
The sticking point as I understand it on merging routes right now IS the timetabling and awards structure real life example: We have Paddington to Reading, on that route you have train 1C94, an IET run from Paddington to Penzance, but in game only goes to Reading. The player completes the run and gets gold Then DTG decides to make Reading to Wesbury as a DLC (60 miles, 12 stations). Now that same train would need THREE timetables, one for those who have GWE, one for those who have RDG - WSB and one for those who have all three, and what happens to that gold medal? Do you now get three medals? Just one??? In my example the timetable portion of the game would essentially just get a high score (if that) so medals get left to scenarios The game then gets automated base timetables which determine (via the DLC loader just completed by DTG) which DLC the user has and adjusts accordingly. The ENTIRE RUN is inserted for each train when it's first put in game, so the game can "learn" which runs need to be timetabled when. Again, fantasy TSW at play here, but would be nice
