I bought TSW3 Deluxe two months ago, and bought DRA last week. I like DRA and SEHS. For adding ICE in DRA, I bought SKA yesterday. SKA is almost completely broken. I don't want to try again. It seem that ALL "compatible" have a lot of problems. I may understand why DTG don't repair it. It's IMPOSSIBLE to "repair" so many problems! Many new contents are shoddy. Many old contents are broken, or will be damaged. I'm confused what is working well in TSW3?
Welcome to tsw, its a broken mess. Has the capability to be a fantastic product. What it lacks is the higher ups to actually care about the product.
Some tutorial and scenario are broken in DRA and SKA. You can't finish it. Wrong track path is very annoying. Train detour like a snake in Koln, seem dispatcher be drunk. Serious lighting error, no train on the other side...
I'm confused people run into so many problems. Are we playing the same game? Sure, there's bugs, but rarely they prevent me from enjoying and completing a service or scenario.
I've been playing lots of legacy content. Sure, there may be some issues like with tutorials or whatever, but I've had more stuff that worked than not worked. But saying everything's completely broken sounds like an exaggeration b/c I've been successful playing the services I've played. It would be completely broken if none of the services could be completed. Even the newer content has issues so it's not like the game is bug free. What is the serious lighting error you are talking about? I don't have an issue with lighting. If you're talking about not having the new lighting, there's no plans to bring it across. The new lighting has some issues too. Are you setting up the train properly? I've had no issues with the ice.
It's sounds like exaggeration because it is exaggeration, and you know something, that's ok. You can use the term "completely broken" at times when something is in fact not completely broken. Much like how people can use the term literally in a sense which isn't literal. Exaggeration is a normal part of human speech, and I really get fed up with how often people feel the need to be grammar police over such things. Simple fact is something being completely broken shouldn't be your benchmark for if something is broken to a substantial degree. As a example a family member got into a car accident (before anyone gets worried they were complete uninjured from that incident) and it totaled the car. However it was far from completely broken, in fact it was still drivable, and they used it for a while until the got another car. The reason it was totaled was due to body damage, and it would've cost more than the initial asking price for the car to repair it, so it just made more sense to buy a new one. So sure I wouldn't call it literally "completely broken", but I wouldn't exactly be getting up in arms if someone were to describe it as such.
It's a question of being taken seriously, not one of "grammar police" (and this isn't a grammar issue anyway but one of rhetoric). This isn't a Whatsapp chat group, it's a public forum for discussing a product, where we hope our discussions will be noticed by the company (and they often are). If you've ever worked in a customer-facing job, you'll know that you never take the screamy, exaggerating ones seriously but smile and nod, maybe give them some cookies to make them happy but basically ignore what they say.
To the contrary; I would say that "compatible" routes from the TSW2020 era were of markedly superior quality (with a couple of exceptions) than anything released since. DTG have added "features," but basic execution has become ever more careless, slipshod and rushed. Drive Sand Patch Grade or Northern Trans-Pennine and you'll see what I mean: that's a quality standard today's DTG can't even imagine much less achieve.
Do you know? Many people can't finish first tutorial in DRA, if they don't search online. And it's impossible that finish first tutorial in SKA. Scenario Chemical Plant Zone in DRA also broken. I looked for a solution. Miraculously, there really is a way to finish it. But I'm sad because I did it, I'm like an idiot. It's like SM. I spent many hours "repairing" these. In other games, it has already been refunded. For my health, I shouldn't buy these "junk food" anymore.
DTG is famous for making high-quality games. TSW3 work well on my computer. No stutter. No broken. I recommend you to buy New York-Trenton and Heritage Livery, because they are very popular in forum. Am I very positive?
Are 'user errors' really to blame on the user, or should the game be more clear on explaining things?
Pretty sure there's no possible way for a "user error" to make the dispatcher send you down the wrong track, or for an AI train to cause a SPAD, or for locos and services to vanish from the menu selections. Or hell, for the train to launch into the stratosphere at the start of the service before you so much as touch the controller, one of two issues which has prevented me from starting any services on Dresden-Chemnitz so far (The other being that the signals on all services that don't have this physics bug remain red all the time).
Not saying there aren't bugs in TSW - there are plenty, but through the steam forums I've seen so many things listed as bugs, going back to the original TSW, many that were corrected pretty quickly by more experienced players. Everything from "my train won't move" bug which always was something the user was doing wrong, such as not closing the doors! Right through to "my freight loco went down the wrong siding bug" when all they had to do was press F9 and set the switches themselves. I guess it's easier to get attention id you shout "BUG" lol.
Well I've been playing for many years right back to the original TSW and I've never had to post a bug report that I can recall. If I met a problem I would generally go on YouTube for the solution. 9 times out of 10 it was my error not the game. But sure there are genuine bugs, but I think too many people cry "wolf" too quickly. Or should that be "bug".
I have seen many threads over the years where there is a rant, usually focused on how stupid, lazy or unethical DTG are, because the OP can't get something working or not working as they expected. It then turns out to be something the user has done or not done. This isn't restricted to TSW it goes back to TSC days. In fact if I recall even back to discussions about MSTS on UKTS.
I just made the decision to remove everything pre TSW3 from my wish list. Despite the sales, price would need to be £1 or less to make me acquire them. I think we just need to vote with our pockets and buy what we think is worth it and are prepared to accept. More than enough info on here to decide if the "issues" are too big for you or not. I won't buy anything new now and just wait until sale 2/3 and after probable patch 1/2.
That strikes me as precisely backwards- the pre-TS3 routes are the good ones. Everything released since last August has been somewhere between "disappointing" and "bad."
Yeah, but I've only added a couple of those to my list. As opposed to having almost everything in it before! I'm not a rivet counter, I play because I just like trains, so a lot of the issues reported I'm not that concerned about.
