Greetins fellow simmers, I've been looking to further enhance the TSC experience and RW Enhancer 2 came by as recommended. What are your experiences with this tool and is it worth getting? I also have lots of packs from Armstrong Powerhouse so I hope all these add-ons are not going to be interfering with each other. Thank you
Just get the AP Sky/Weather Pack 2. Takes care of most of the stuff that RW did and you get some superb lighting into the deal. I bought the first pack in the Xmas sale not realising that the 2nd was imminent, but I'll still get it.
Ah yes I have the AP Sky/weather pack 2. I guess there is no need for me to get RW then? I don't know if any of its other features would be worth considering.
Get RW Enhancer Pro. It can do far more than what APs Sky/Weather Pack 2 does. Check it out here. RW Enhancer Pro (rwcentral.com) BTW this is an improved version of RWE 2.
I would suggest that the AP weather pack v2 does the things it does better than RWE ever did whilst being entirely transformative for the game. Whilst you lose options like SSAO you don’t really miss them, and the way it renders glass reflections etc is way better than RWE.
I looked at RW Enhancer but I did not like the effect of light reflecting off some of the surfaces A demo shows the light reflecting of loco roofs - like the roof well of the Class 87 which normally would not reflect.
Sadly I disagree whilst the AP pack does enhance the sim if you don’t own RWE the weather pack still has a small list of features compared to what REW can do I still use RWE as it does certain things better than the AP pack does
Not really fussed about the graphically differences. I do prefer running with RWE2 on, but my PC, most routes are perfectly acceptable with or without. Main benefits for me; HUD - can maintain speed a lot more accurately with the outer circle coloured ring showing how fast you are accelerating or braking. Can also move the HUD around. Quick drive - being able to select stations to stop at. (With announcements). Consist editor and creator - easily swap out stock (great for swapping in AP items into existing consists). Real-time weather and live timing (I can drive real services following the info on Real-time Trains).
Those announcements are laughable. .... what? LOL. Well... not really. It's still a quick drive. It's not like it puts real AI into the sim to match the real time table. It just means that you can drive a train at the same time it's actually running. You can do that anyway. The consist editor is only for quick drive. What would be useful is if it worked like TSTools does, and allows the consists in scenarios to be edited using that interface... but it doesn't. Quick drives are boring, and so many routes don't even have AI on them, and those that do, often just put ridiculous examples in there, like something in BR blue going past when you're driving an Azuma. It's all trying to turn TSC into TSW, and that's a bad thing. This is all just my opinion of course, but seriously... why would anyone want those announcements? They are not real. If they were like the announcements you get with the ATS class 185, then sure, I'd love that, but they're not. Even if they were, they would have to be accurate to the train and train operating company, or they just break the illusion IMO. They're terrible... they couldn't be any less intrusive if it was Stephen Hawking's voice making the announcement... and what's with all that "train number eight hundred and sixty seven thousand" nonsense? As for the graphical improvements, if you want that, just get RWEPro, as they are identical to RWE2.
…and the fact still remains that the AP weather pack transforms the game for the better. Many of the features of RWEPro have been disabled by the developer because the AP pack does them better, and the ones that remain largely don’t play nicely with the AP pack even though it’s meant to be compatible. I’ve had RWEPro since the day it came out and was very happy with what it offered until the AP pack came out. It’s now uninstalled because I simply don’t need it any longer, it makes things worse, not better. I hope the RWE developer can adapt his product to work with the AP pack, bring different features to the party and carve out a new niche for it.
You know what's really laughable? People shitting all over a one man devs work because not everything is implemented and polished from day one.. This was posted last week, with more to be added like train operator name and such.. This is fully automated no additional input by the user needed.
Then they need to update the website, as that's much better, and the website is where most will get their information from. I take it all back. Still a tough sell if that's the only feature you are buying it for though.
Agreed, much better. Not sure about the ‘Ryedale High’ style bing-bongs before the announcements but to be fair, if that were a standalone product I’d consider buying it.
Maybe, that's a big improvement. I may actually give it a go, but even RWEPro was causing me issues with the AP weather pack, even with all the compatible settings, so we'll see. I'm reluctant to put it back on. There's no mention of this announcement update on the website yet though, so I'm assuming it's not available yet. I call it as a I see it. The announcements were LOVE. The end. It wouldn't matter if they were one man's work, or a team of 20. It says on the site that the entire thing is essentially an alpha product anyway, so I think it's fair to just say it's LOVE if it's LOVE. the update is much better, so now my opinion had changed somewhat. I'm not going to pretend something is good, just because it may, or may not get better with development. When it's good, that's when I will say it's good. TBH, I still don't think it's anywhere near as good as the announcements on the 185. Quality of the sound doesn't lead you to believe that it's an actual announcement coming from a speaker inside the train. The acoustics are all wrong. Listen to the 185s and you'll see what I mean.
Pookeyhead, your reply above to my post and subsequent posting trying to justify what you posted is why I have to take a break from this forum every so often. Lots thread just decends into this negative debating. The thread and orginial post is about the benefits RWE2 worth it, and I dont see how your posts help the person who has asked the question to make an informed decision. If you wanted to make a different thread saying why I dont like RWE then great, your posts would be spot on. But posting factually incorrect comments about a product your dont appear to use, does not help up those of us who are interested in finding out correct, factual and helpful information on this forum.
I found RWE graphical enchancements to be good, but the default "shinyness" was a bit too high and it made some of the metal surfaces on several older TS engine assets (Like BR class 08) end up looking FAR too shiny. But after adjusting the shine effect and toning it down it all looks great. That was the only change I had to make to the default settings. I do not use the announcements. The content viewer option... I actually use it as it works FAR faster and is FAR less buggy than the ingame consist editor. I have a lot of British content and 3rd party freight packs from CW and DT, so sorting it all out in RWE allows me to identify what I need to have plausible consists easily. If I would do that ingame, I would have to spend a heck of a lot of time watching the loading screen. And then I would still get crashes from time to time and have to load the whole thing again. RWE makes it far less of a pain.
Some very weird views on what can and can’t count as an opinion on this thread. I believe Pookeyhead has answered the OP’s question using his own opinion, which is exactly what the thread was asking for. Anyway, In my view it comes down to this; Do you have the AP Weather Pack v2? [ ] Yes [ ] No If the answer is yes then I believe you would be wasting your money on RWEPro. If the answer is no, and you have no intention of buying it, then RWEPro is a good product. It isn’t as good as the AP Weather Pack v2 though. RWE2 I can’t comment on as I don’t own it, but I genuinely don’t really see the need for it. I chose not to buy it because IMHO it’s very expensive for an Alpha product particularly when, like me, you’ve purchased RWE and RWEPro previously. RWE’s developer should be commended because he pushed the boundaries of what TS could do. If, and it is an if at the minute, RWE2 develops into a product to compliment the AP pack rather than work against it then I’d consider purchasing it. At the minute I don’t see it justifies the cost.
You have to leave because I have an opinion about a product? The fact that I should be made to feel like I need to defend having an opinion is utterly ridiculous. I think the announcements were truly awful. I'm not justifying anything. They were terrible. That's my opinion. Last time I checked, we live in a democracy that affords me to the right to free speech. If you disagree, that's fine, but don't try to guilt trip me. I feel no guilt about giving an opinion about a product. The thread asked whether people think it's worth it. I don't. I can just give that opinion, or I can give it and explain why. Which is more useful? People can form their own opinions if they disagree. It's already been settled that the information on the website is out of date, and I've already acknowledged that the updated ones are greatly improved. If you wanna leave, leave, but to try and play some kind of guilt card is just ridiculous. I'm not harming you, and if me thinking that it's rubbish IS harming you, then you need to go and talk to someone about that.
you missed the part out that says “in YOU4 opinion”. AP does not transform the sim like RWE does. Does the AP pack have ALL the same features as RWE ??? Answer = NO. So do enlighten us all how AP enhances the core sim more than RWE please do explain
As usual in these forums. Someone asks for an opinion about a product and the usual names appear and start taking a topic off topic and turning it into an argument. It’s about time admin started banning people in these forums and it is ALWAYS the same names.
If you bothered to do your research rather than actually just criticising something you would see there is an option which makes it compatible with the AP WEP 2.0 shame you didn’t do your research before going on your little trip to criticise and down-talk something you are wrong about.
This article contains useful information: General Forum Etiquette | Dovetail Games Forums Posting that RWE2 is LOVE could be seen as negative and a poor choice of language. Posting that announcements are laughable could be seen as negative and a poor choice of language. Posting that Consist editor is only for Quickdrive is not true (can be used for all consists). Quickdrives are boring could be seen as negative and a poor choice of language. (lots of us enjoy them!) Saying announcements “ they couldn't be any less intrusive if it was Stephen Hawking's voice making the announcement” could be seen as negative and a poor choice of language. The author of the thread asks for peoples experience of using RWE2. As you have stated you don’t use it, I’m struggling to see how your comments are positive and constructive and help others who would be interested to know. As for your last post, telling me to get help if I am being harmed, is wholly offensive to me. I should not be subject to unwanted psychiatric profiling from anyone on here. I wouldn’t do it to anyone on here and would not expect it to be done on me. At what point did I say you couldn’t post your opinion? At what point did I say I was playing a guilt card? At what point did I say you was causing me harm? Yet again on this forum, a thread has ended up turning negative. I try to enjoy reading this forum to understand how people are getting on with TSC, (new products / fixes etc) but thread after thread just turns into a negative posting and ruins it. This then leans to me to taking a break from reading and contributing to it, as there it gets difficult to find the useful constructive information, and ends up me just reading backward and forwards posting matches, just like this thread has now unintentionally become.
Oh, grow up. There are only two people in this thread that have dragged it off topic and made it negative. Every post here is very much on topic except for this one (because I’m not letting that nonsense slip by unchallenged) and the five preceding it. The OP asked for opinions about RWE, people have given opinions. Threatening to report posts and imploring admins to ban people because you don’t like those opinions is just beyond pathetic. I’ve said it before in another thread but just so there’s no confusion, you as a forum user do not get to decide who posts what in which thread and whether something is on or off topic. This forum thankfully allows decent debate, it always has. The moderators always step in where it’s necessary and if they feel it so here then I’m sure they’ll do just that. If you don’t agree with my opinion (about an add-on for a train sim for crying out loud), then put up a counter argument. Explain why RWE is an essential purchase. You choose not to though, instead playing the man and running off to teacher with your hand in the air. Freedom of speech is a beggar isn’t it? ps Just because the developer of a product says it’s compatible with another doesn’t make it so. Entirely disabling half the features does not make it compatible and even installing and opening RWEPro messes up the AP pack such that it needs reinstalling. There is no ‘research’ to be done on this one I’m afraid.
And you can get reported for this comment as well. As to your last comment you’re wrong as usual. If a product seller claims something is compatible and it is not then that is false advertising and selling. A developer would need to be pretty stupid to do missell a product wouldn’t they. Do yourself a favour and do some research next time before making false claims then proclaiming a developer is posting wrong information.
Yawn. Report away. The naivety on show in that post is mind-blowing. I hope a moderator comes along and removes all this borderline illiterate nonsense. This thread was doing just nicely until you two piped up with this rubbish.
You do realise, it's you who is escalating this, and derailing the thread, right? Any criticism can be seen as negative. By definition, it's negative. Do you really want a forum where people can only every say positive things? No criticisms of a product? No negative reviews? What kind of dystopian hell do you want to live in? You ever read 1984? No, it's not a poor choice of language. I found an announcement saying "welcome aboard train number seventy thousand three hundred and twelve" laughable. I actually laughed when I heard it. My choice of language was on point. Again, what is your aversion to anything negative? You do realise that if you stop people from saying anything negative, that would actually be harmful, right? That's not what it says on the website. "With this consist editor you can easily create your own consists to be used by the quickdrive mode." If that is not accurate, then again, not having up to date information on the website is not my problem. And lots don't and think they are boring. As to whether it's poor choice of language depends on whether you think they are boring or not. So? Who exactly is the arbitrator of all this? You? By letting them know that graphically, it's no different from RWEPro, which is useful, because if I'd have known that, I wouldn't have bought it! It's not obvious. As others have said, a great deal of of what it does is now done better by AP's SWEP 2.0. If you would leave the forums because I'm critical of a product... not you... a product... then I think you may be a little over-sensitive. Everything you are saying suggests that I can't, because you are having one hell of a problem with it. But only if they have positive things to say about it, right? Then just ignore me. I don't mind.
your the one who took it off it’s course and started the rubbish so yes I do hope a moderator comes and removes the rubbish.
Lol thanks for backing me up hopefully the admin will deal with him now constantly cussing arguments in threads and inaccurate information
This is literally insane. I have no idea what this guy is on about. Pookeyhead How am I derailing the thread? I made an entirely on-topic post then this guy comes out of nowhere and starts attacking me personally (which I couldn’t give a monkey’s about, but don’t expect it to go unchallenged) and demanding I be banned from the forum, much like has happened to you. I’ve simply responded in exactly the same way you have. You say I’m derailing the thread then immediately post a long riposte (the second such post) to the guy criticising you. Give me a clue, what am I missing?
Woah there tiger... I'm not backing anyone up about anything, I just said I found the thread hilarious. I don't take sides in other people's disagreements. I just sit there with popcorn.
Let’s just leave it there the op has enough information to make his/her own mind up and let the mods deal with the reported comments
In a post above I mentioned RWE Pro when I meant RWE 2. For some unknown reason, I get them confused. Anyway here is a screenshot showing the RWE 2 update for AP SWE 2.0 pack.
I believe that text is the same as was posted for the RWEPro update so it doesn’t particularly matter that they were confused.
That sky&weather pack compatibility patch, is basically just turning all the really useful stuff off.
I wasn't replying to you, apologies... I should have quoted the dude I was replying to before I typed that. I just assumed that the fact that I was quoting just one person for the entire post made that clear.
Just because I'm putting the idea forward (though I doubt I'm the first to bring it up) I've no ambition to do the role myself, been there, done that, bought the T-shirts (well they were given but they're cool all the same). Truth be told I haven't the time nor the motivation to deal with moderation issues.
Me neither. I'd be no faster, or efficient that it currently is, plus, as someone who's been banned previously, I doubt I'd be considered a suitable candidate. My card is marked in here. Let's just say that I lack a certain diplomacy LOL
Locking this thread, too many mutual reports are being thrown around and everyone needs to understand that purposefully writing argumentative messages isn't condoned. Further action will be taken if continued reports come through from the same users.
