Db612 - Is This Prototypical Behaviour?

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  1. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Hi all

    I'm just curious and wondering if our German friends can help with this. The 612, does it really squeal that much. It seems like the moment a wheel turns its squealing. It puts me off using what is a brilliant DMU.

    Can anyone provide any clarity and if it isn't prototypical make a little noise (not squealing please) so it's on DTG's radar?

    Could be perfectly normal but I don't have the first hand experience to know.

    Thank you.
     
  2. CowBoyWolf

    CowBoyWolf Well-Known Member

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    From what i heard its overdone
     
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    In short, it doesn’t. I’ve been watching some cabrides lately and not a single time has there been any wheel flange squeal noises. And also from personal experience when I was as a passenger on this train, on the exact same route, it did not make these noises. Maybe through the junctions at Dresden, but just going through a curve, absolutely not.
     
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  4. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    If you have any 612 cab rides from Dresden to
    Chemitz you are able to share I'd love to see. I was looking for on YouTube yesterday and maybe I was searching for the wrong thing but I couldn't find one
     
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    Cramnor Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately for Dresden Chemnitz I don’t find 612 cabrides either, only some with the 143 and Dosto.

    There are however 612 on other routes as well, for example here:
     
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    I think from day one that the squealing is overdone. Besides this I love the route and the DMU.

     
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    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    And just another one ...

     
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    Pipe Well-Known Member

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    And this one from a BR 612 arrival in Leipzig. If it doesn´t squeal THERE ....

     
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    And this one from a cabride ...

     
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    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Plenty to watch today. Thank you :cool:
     
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    I think that this is also true of another generally brilliant train, the Class 465. Some wheel screech is prototypical, but sounding like a scalded cat all the time is not.
     
  12. SHINO BAZ

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    I only hear it on curves not straights.It sounds like it's fighting it's damdest not to derail while taking curves a high speed that would derail almost any other train.
     
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    Have a look at this... ;)
     
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  14. Maik Goltz

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    On tight curves its quite loud. That is what i wanted to recreate with that. Problem in TSW yet is, that there are only 3 curve radii to grab and so the ability to control the audio is down to nearly on/off on that route. Normally i would control intensity and volume by curvature as i did in TSC quite often (nearly 100 DLC vehicles have that at a minimum), but in TSW that is not possible at the moment. So we have to live with what we have. Alternative is to get rid of it at all (or maybe making it lot quieter, but the intensity will stay).
     
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    Just to note it does this on ever curve tight or not.
     
  16. erg73

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    If I have to choose, I'd rather it be excessively loud than excessively quiet. There are enough trains in TSW without any track sound and I think it makes the ride too unimmersive.
    Maik Goltz i have to thank you that in all your creations you take a lot of care in this kind of sounds, DTG sometimes gives importance to it but sometimes not. I especially like the clack that is always heard when passing through crossings, even if it's only subtly, it's always there, even if you pass at high speed, and I always play with headphones and I really appreciate it. All the trains you have worked on have it, ICE 1, ICE 3, 110, 103, 101, G6, 612, 628.... Thank you very much :)
     
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    Definitely agree. There is just so much TSW can’t do compared to TSC, you really wonder why DTG bother. Coming after a lovely run with the Bossman Royal Scot yesterday evening and eyeing up the new Japanese route from Union Workshop.
     
  18. a.paice

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    Great video, thank you
     

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