Where Do The Instructors Sit On Newer Ice Trains As They Have Only One Seat In The Cabin?

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  1. denizmert

    denizmert Active Member

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    Or are the drivers sent directly to the job after simulator training? What about S-Bahn which also has only one seat?
     
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    brickmaster#7638 Well-Known Member

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    Don’t they have like a fold out seat on the back wall of the cab?
     
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    brickmaster#7638 Well-Known Member

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    I suppose if there really I no seat/no place to sit down, then they just stand there or lean back on the wall (maybe)
     
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    In the game they really don't. Is it accurately modeled?
     
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    Yes, the ICE3 and also the ICE-T are special in this regard, as there is no space for a fold out seat. I believe that what you see there is supposed to be the seating for the second driver…

    EDIT: I have to correct myself. According to this site:
    https://www.ice-fansite.com/index.p...der-fuehrerstand-und-zugbeeinflussungssysteme
    there is a foldout seat left behind the driver. I have personally never seen this and have only seen people sitting on the shroud. Maybe the cover can be opened or something similar…
     
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    SHINO BAZ Well-Known Member

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    If passengers can stand and walk about the train while zipping along why can't the instructor (stand).Beside if at speed it goes bad it doesn't matter weather sitting or standing it's gonna sting bad either way.
     
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    On the Doppelstockwagen 767.2 766.2 the 2nd seat is behind yours to which there's a Sifa switch on it. On the DB Baureihe 401 ICE1 it's the seat to your left. My question is this for the ICE3neo DB Baureihe 407/408 Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen Hollandstrecke Duisburg Oberhausen Zevenaar Arnhem Utrecht Amsterdam are they like ICE1 or the ICE3/ICE-T?
     
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    ICE1&2 are the only ICEs with driver position on the right, 2nd seat on the left. All other ICEs are driven from a middle position, leaving space only behind the driver for another seat.

    The ICE3neo does not have the lounge behind the driver, making it more comparable to the ICE4.
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    I can’t edit my post above as the forum filter somehow detect inappropriate language when I talk about ICEs…

    Anyway, wanted to add, the above picture is the ICE4 and the lower the ICE3neo. In my last paragraph I wanted to add that the neo does not have the lounge, as the ICE3 has
     
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    It's not really the ability to stand which is the problem, it's the length of time. You might have over 3 hours before getting a break which is a long time to stand whilst you are trying to instruct and concentrate.

    I'm not sure if you've stood on a train for a long period of time but it really does make your legs ache as you are constantly making little adjustments to stay upright, even on a smooth modern train.
     
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