Tsc - Tokyo Commuter Out Now!

Already got it, such a great route! It's really nice to finally have a real japanese commuter route in Train Simulator.

 

Finger poised over the buy button - how is it in terms of performance? My lingering doubt is I don't want another Met Line or NZ Midland Line that fails to load half the time with dire warnings to run on 64 bit, which I'm already doing anyway!

 

I have already done a few runs and it's fine for me. Probably the best performing japanese route in the game by far, even despite the busy timetable and long trains. Sometimes you can have 3-4 consists of 10-15 car trains on one screen and it handles it just fine. A small drop in framerate when approaching Ueno, but that seems to be due to the station model or lighting itself, not the trains.

As for the route itself, there are a few bugs, but overall a great experience. Plenty of traffic, AI trains on the Yamanote Line and recorded in-train announcements. And the scenery is pretty good as well. I wish their previous Tohoku Main Line route was this quality as well. So I can just recommend this, go for it and buy it!

 

I have all the Japanese DLC from union workshop.
I'm going to take this one as well, a metro route with Yamanote trains!!!

I dream of the entire Yamanote on TSC or even on TSW3!

 

Definitely loving this route. waited a long time for UW to come up with this.

 

Well I've been umming and aghhing over this all day, but finally decided to take the plunge and buy. Reports are favourable and I do like to support UW.

 

While the Yamanote Line E231 currently is AI only and non-driveable, the manual says that they plan on extending the Yamanote Line section and making the E231 driveable.

 

Just purchased it. Feels good, very detailed and love the station announcements, all very immersive. Had to correct the cab camera a bit to the right (x = -0.8, the watch should be in the centre) and correct the FOV to use 100% but that's just my preference.

Recommended - well done UnionWorkshop

 

Utterly fantastic, although I'm currently losing XP hand over fist having departed Ueno 4' late - had to read the manual to discover you need to hold down the emergency brake release button to reset before you can take power.

But the route looks great, the train sounds and performs great and makes me reminiscent of Densha de Go all those years ago.

Now if only we had the full timetable of TSW...

 

I've turned the scoring off

There's a good amount of scenarios supplied, and honestly the TSW timetables are more or less the same services at different daytimes - which you can use QD for.

 

The only thing I have noticed and it might be my graphics settings, is that driving at dawn the lighting effects on the buildings especially high rise are a bit blurred and merge into each other over-riding the solid structure.

 

From the maps on the stream (I've not picked it up yet as I've spent too much on AirBnB this month including one in Okachimachi), it looks like the Yamanote line from Tokyo to Shibuya via Ueno, Ikebukero and Shinjuku has track, as well as the Chuo-Sobu local from Akihabara to Shinjuku and the Chou Rapid from Tokyo to Shibuya.

 

It would be great to see this expand into a network and, unlike TSW, it is not impossible to extend a route in TSC.

 

It would be magical!
I love all the trains no matter the country but the Japanese trains are my preference.
I have a small Japanese double track N scale train network at my place, I order everything in Japan.
If ever the Yamanote was released on TSC or TSW3 I would be the happiest man in the world!!

 

In confirmation that the extension will DEFINITELY be from the manual)
P. S. I hope that the expansion will extend the line to Yokohama

 

Definitely needs an extension, doing one of the fast runs it is literally over in a few minutes. Almost a teaser for something more to come. Another 25 or 30km and it would be perfect.

 

That will be a Ueno Tokyo Line.

 

The likely extensions, from the track that's been laid already, would be Yamanote/Keihin-Tohoku/Ueno-Tokyo south from Ueno to Tokyo, Yamanote counterclockwise from Tabata to Shinjuku, Chuo-Sobu west from Akihabara to Shinjuku, Chuo Rapid west from Tokyo to Shinjuku, and Saikyo south from Akabane to Shinjuku.

The Yamanote and the Chuo-Sobu parts are the most likely, in my opinion, since they both use(d) the E231-500 - the Chuo Rapid and Saikyo lines would only need small extensions to make playable after that, but they would require new E233 variants.

Here's a crudely edited version of the official JR East map showing all the lines that have track laid in the route:

 

Yeah, looking at the trackwork already laid in the current route, they could make half of the Yamanote Line (from Tokyo to Shinjuku) and even the middle section of the Chuo-Sobu Line (from Shinjuku to Akihabara) driveable with the E231. As a fan of both, I would love that.

But I assume ideally they could finish the second half of the Yamanote Line and release the whole loop as a standalone route.

And while I would have never thought it would be doable, but after seeing a working Tokyo commuter route like this, and inside it parts of the trackwork laid for the Chuo-Sobu Line, I would really, really like a full Chuo-Sobu Line in the game. It's one of my favorite lines in Tokyo.

 

My question though will they get it done? I've heard they also plan to finish the line for Tohoku as well with the E6 for that line, but I haven't seen any progress on that either.

It's odd how UWS developed both Tohoku and Tokyo, where both routes have trackage laid out for future expansion, but aren't done on release.

 

IIRC one of the UW devs mentioned on the TSC Discord they had issues with the E5's couplers.

Also there's an explicit mention of a planned extension in the Tokyo Commuter manual, which wasn't the case with Tohoku High Speed.

 

A picture quote from Steam, why Japan use Pound?

 

Er, it's a picture of the E233 on a UK route.

 

This screenshot is not taken on the original route. Japanese train on a british route.

 

I assume they always do more trackwork so they can decide on the exact scope later on, or just to make it easier to extend it in the future if wanted.

And as eldomtom2 said, for the Tohoku Main Line they said in the interview article that they would love to extend the route to the north, but I assume no promises were made there. As for this route, however, the manual specifically says they "will", so I guess we can take that as a promise?

Hopefully it really happens. It would be great to see more of this area.

 

yeah, especially the Chuo Line part to Shinjuku I would love to see and drive

 

JR Tokyo commuter train are on narrow gauge, why can run on standard gauge? Maybe TSC should make the difference between two gauge.

 

I wonder where would they extend this route like to Atami/ Ito or to Kuroiso, Shilbukawa and Hachioji There are so many ways to extend as it big nextwork

 

Because TSC is built on an almost 2 decades old game engine and does not check for gauge.

 

I would guess their current plan is to finish the scenery around the track that is already there in game. So extend from Ueno to Tokyo and maybe make the northern half of Yamanote Line driveable. If they already have the E231 and plan on making it driveable, then they could also repaint it into yellow and finish the scenery for the exsisting short section of Chuo-Sobu line from Akihabara to Shinjuku.

 

TSC doesn't check the track gauge matches the train, it just centres the train above the track with wheels at rail height and runs physics based on data entered about the train. That's why Mixed gauge track isn't possible, because the narrow gauge train can't be rendered off centre. It's a limitation of the older engine, and amongst other reasons is why they went for an all new simulation engine for TSW (with Unreal providing graphics)

Those going for realism probably won't try it, but if you are sticking an E233 on a UK route the track gauge mismatch is probably not a concern to you.

 

I had a think on this one, and I think the E231 would probably need a complete rebuild if it's going to feature more. Currently it's an E233 with the cab swapped, which is fair enough, it's AI and the shells are very similar. (and from about 2010 onwards car 10 *was* an E233 driving car with the cab removed - there is a reason for it being a cabless driving car rather than normal intermediate)

That's probably why they went for the E231 as the E235 has a very different bodyshell. When the E235s were built, Car 10 being only a few years old was taken from the E231s and inserted into the E235s - so you can compare the two designs on most E235 sets - there are a couple that have new build car 10s

 

When they do more of the Yamanote Line, Chou Line and Tokaido Mainline they need to make these trains
E235 series - Wikipedia
185 series - Wikipedia
E257 series - Wikipedia
E259 series - Wikipedia for Narita Express
E353 series - Wikipedia
E531 series - Wikipedia
E217 series - Wikipedia
E657 series - Wikipedia
251 series - Wikipedia

 

I doubt think what two guys will building all this EMUs)))

 

I would say it's quite unrealistic to expect them to make all that. A Yamanote Line and most surrounding traffic could already be made with the exsisting rolling stock with the E231 on the Yamanote Line (and maybe Chuo-Sobu) and E233 for the rest, like the already exsisting Keihin-Tohoku and Utsonomiya Lines, Chuo Rapid Line, etc.

 

I felt for a long time, UW was working up to this. And I feel with enough support for their products, especially this one. It will incentivize them to make more content of this nature. I'd also like to see them tackle routes with trains that cater to long-distance luxury trips. Some of the trains I've seen Via Youtube are absolutely, insanely gorgeous looking. I'll be sure to link them in this thread when I find them.

 

Why don’t make the Blue Trains?

 

The only slight bug I've found, is that departing from Ueno on a fast run, the "echo" sound of being under the station roof seemed to cling to the train and all the sound effects throughout the journey to Omiya. Has anyone else spotted this - specfically Scenario 18 1829 Ueno to Omiya.

If so, I'll file a bug report.

 

I wonder how they would make Shinjuku station is a very big station it would take a long time to model it

 

This route may not go to Shinjuku.

 

Maybe its just seems to me, but don't this like on teaser?) (Akita Shinkansen)
What you think about it, guys?

 

Hopefully the E6 will come at some point

So today I learnt that the Saikyo Line north of Ikebukero uses moving block signalling, so would need mods to the E233 displays if it were to be added

 

You mean placement marketing?

 

I mean, this is a possible hint for the future of DLC)

 

Before 2016, this line have Blue sleeper trains. Maybe this line make some add-on with them. The Dipper is famous.

 

The Cassiopeia? Didn't that run just one train per day? That said you could also use it on parts of the Sendai-Morioka line.

The Sleeper was withdrawn with the opening of the first part of the Hokkaido Shinkansen from Aomori to Hakodate bringing the travel time down between Tokyo and Sapporo from 16 hours to 8 hours (with a change of train at Hakodate) - work is underway to complete the Shinkansen to Sapporo which will bring the travel time down to 6 hours.