[resolved] Br442 Talent 2 Broken

The Köln- Aachen version of the talent 2 is broken have tried everything including releasing handbrake and opening and then closing the MCB

 

Is this happening on every service. What exactly is going on. Any photos? We need more detail so someone can reproduce it

 

no problem with this train on pc

 

Somethings causing the traction interlock to not release making it impossible to move happened on every service i tried

 

Have you tried raising panto and closing circuit breaker?

 

yes I have it didn’t solve the problem

 

I have a feeling it might be a playstation issue. I've not been able to reproduce it on pc.

 

Oh ok thanks for your help

 

Is there a way to report it to dovetail directly?

 

Open a ticket yes.
Or pray that an admin sees your thread

 

Thanks have Made one now

 

On ps5, if starting at Aachen it won't release the throttle lock. Seems to work when starting at Koln though

 

Indeed, this bug seems to effect only the services that start in Aachen. Problem is that the front train of the set does not have a pantograph. Switch to exterior camera, you’ll see that on the front train the panto is missing. The back train does have a panto. Inside this is confirmed on the left hand display. It sais zug 1 has 0kv current, zug 2 has 15kv current. When doing a service starting in Koln, you’ll see that both train have a panto and 15kv current, so those services work just fine.

TrainSim-Adam DTG JD can you have the team look into this please.

 

I gotta try this on the PC.

 

I see pressure in the Brake Cylinder (2.1).
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/attachments/67e7bfdf-9352-4742-b70e-d10f64620128-jpeg.100477/
Until it is zero, you will not get the traction motor to produce torque (throttle is in '8' and no torque).

 

The way the 442 works (the SKA version) is that the brakes won't release until a certain amount if kN are applied. That can't be done as the pantograph is lowered and can't be raised

 

Yes, that's true, a couple of notches of the power lever and you'll see the brake cylinder pressure bleed down. Then the trrain will start moving. I somehow missed the part about the pantograph being down and thus the power being unavailable.

 

have you tried cold starting the DB BR442? That might solve the issue. Otherwise you are hauling a dead weight

 

DTG JD If a video of this is helpfull: Hentis (antony.henley) encountered this bug in his stream tonight. Look up the nov 29 stream on his Youtube channel. It the first service he tries.

There does seem to be a work around: someone in the chat suggested he start on foot and take control of the service, and that worked fine.

 

Cheers only me.

Tony

 

Just adding to this thread, I'm on PC (Epic Games) and am seeing the same issue. Any BR442 service starting from Aachen will not move, the half of the train you are sitting in does not have a pantograph.

DW

 

Can't reproduce it on the Steam version either. From Aachen both units had the pantograph raised. I could still apply power although the pantographs were not in contact with the OHLE

 

Interesting, so it seems like it's not an issue on the Steam version.

I tried the same service you did sedevan, and while I have a pantograph on the back half of the train as you did :


There is no pantograph at either end of the front half of the train :



Like its incorrectly using two pantographless units on each end of that half?

Again I'm on the PC\Epic Games version, and it seems every BR442 service originating at Aachen has this problem. I don't see this issue starting from Koln.

DW

 

Was this issue fixed yet?

 

No pantograph? Sheesh, that's nuthin'

 

July 2023 and this issue still pending to be fixed, at least in PS4. Among all bugs I would say that one should be in the top ten ... all services Aachen - Koln are blocked !

 

DTG JD, DTG Matt Any update on this issue? Almost 9 months have passed since reporting this...

 

if h look on top of the first couples train u will see there is no pantagraph that’s y

 

The one from Rapid Transit wont move asweel...

 

try the parking break or circuit breaker

 

when you set the train up you need to reset the circuit breaker .

 

It was the parking brake.. thanks Bro.. Aldo didnt help that the screen saying 0 Power...

 

I see its still not been fixed

 

Yes it's still bugged. But on his charity stream weekend two weeks ago, I reminded DTG Matt about this and he had a look on the stream itself. So he definitely knows about it and I'm sure he has passed it on to the correct people within DTG

 

lol

 

If you start at Achen on foot, the 442 is drivable

 

This bug only applies to service starting in Aachen. Services startin in Koln are perfectly playable

 

I am doing the same RE9 service 8:18am to Koln and have this exact same problem.

I have PC/Steam.

No need to elaborate.

Missing a pantograph on lead set electric multiple units.

 

the way I found how to drive the services from Aachen not relay acceptable

 

lol tried the same

 

One year...
An easily reproducible issue, that makes half the services for a train on a route broken, is not fixed for a freaking year... How can your defect prioritization be so missmanaged?

 

a friend of mine suggested a great workaround, for now:
1. Select route Koln Aachen
2. When selecting trains, select "On foot", and select Aachen Hbf as starting station, and choose time
3. When you spawn, enter into the 442, it should be working fine

Until they truly fix this, this is a great way to play those services

 

DTG Matt / DTG Alex

15 months after first post + bug experienced by Matt himself during his charity stream last year... He said on the stream this would be an easy fix...

What's happening guys? When will this finally be fixed??

 

I can confirm the bug is still there, checked it and yeah, it is... what a shame

 

Still here after the winter core update. DTG Alex DTG Matt Any update please? Thank you

 

Top man!

 

now only if my older livery for 442 worked again

 

Thanks DTG Matt . Should this be in the Spring Core Update mentioned in the roadmap please?