Train Sim World 3 More Class 375 Subclasses.

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  1. NotDavid

    NotDavid Active Member

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    At least one person has thought, Why is there only Class 375/9's where's the other subclasses?

    So....

    I was thinking if Dovetail this year or next, Could add the Class 375/3, Class 375/6 Class 375/7 And Class 375/8
    Class 375/3
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    Formed of 3 Coaches. First class is only at one side and the /3 operates medway and Small part servers formed with a /6 or whatever / is close.
    Class 375/6
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    Operates most of Southeastern's services.
    Has light changed and some units have a pantograph some dont.
    Class 375/7
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    Basically a class 375/6 just they all don't have a Pantograph.

    Class 375/8
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    The Class 375/8's have the same lights as the /9 Just the difference is that the First Class is in the middle of the units and the /8 has no AC.

    It would be nice to have more subclasses of the 375 into the route SEHS it would make it 10x more realistic.

    Whats your thought's is this a good idea for a up coming update or no?
     
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  2. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    it would be great and I have suggested something similar for the 377 but I don't think that anything like this will come anytime soon
     
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  3. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't want to pay for more Electrostars and I wouldn't expect DTG to give them away for free either.
     
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  4. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    yeah maybe they will release them in DLC in the distant future they always add just one subclass of a train and leave it at that
     
  5. NotDavid

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    No like i'm trying to prove a point like they could add it on into the Southeastern highspeed DLC its self.
     
  6. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    They aren't going to add them for free though and I am most certainly not paying for more Electrostars.
     
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  7. NotDavid

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    No like what they did with the class 465/9 turn that from DLC into apart of the whole DLC. just they could add on the other sub classes.
     
  8. west coastway trains

    west coastway trains Well-Known Member

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    Yes because the 465 was originally a paid dlc for the best part of a year and a half
     
  9. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Including the 465 DLC in the SEHS Add-on took literally no real work to modify the train. Adding new variants of the 375 would.

    That being said, I wouldn't mind this happening if we ever got a route like, say, the Chatham Mainline, for which we probably need more 375s. However, as far as SEHS is concerned, it's a bit pointless.
     
  10. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    I Would pay good money for the /6 to come and for a reasnoable price as well, for like £8.99
     
  11. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    £8.99 for a new variant is not a reasonable price. In fact, it's unreasonable for it to even be a DLC at all; albeit unlikely to appear in an update.
     
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  12. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    ok ok ok chill , can u take ur negative energy away b4 u tal to me pls
     
  13. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    I think the question is "what gameplay difference would this subclass bring?"
    And the answer (without further track mileage to utilise this subclass) is none
    The only playable line it runs on is between Rochester and Faversham and that already has 375s on it so this class would literally be to have a different light cluster in game
    There are so many other possibilities we don't have at all that I see this sort of suggestion as pretty frivolous
     
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  14. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Amen to that!
     
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  15. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    In English?
     
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  16. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    It's called an opinion mate.
     
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  17. AirbourneAlex

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    I would assume for most people less familiar with the route and operator in real life, it would appear as if DTG are selling the same train with subtle differences for little-to-no gameplay benefit, especially as they have identical driving experiences to the Class 375/9 we already have and they wouldn't add any additional traffic to the route.

    More subclasses would be better featured in another Southeastern route should that ever appear, the same applies to the Class 465.
     
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  18. ARuscoe

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    I think with the 465 it should only really be if they do a backdated route and the pre-refit subclass could be done, and of course a 466...
    The revisions of the electrostars are really very subtle and wouldn't bring too much new except to those who live on the route and can say "I travel on those..."
    As Ive said elsewhere (and many times), we have many more classes of trains we DON'T have in game of any subclass, so maybe look outside of the southeastern and southern networks for a while?
     
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  19. AirbourneAlex

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    Yes - especially now we have a Class 158 coming, many more routes outside the southeast can be populated with more stock. We still need some more of the common DMUs also, notably the Pacer and a Turbostar.

    The only route that I would approve of seeing an electrostar again would be a Class 387/1 on an ECML South, or having layers for the Class 377 on a South Western route featuring Desiros (still southern region - but with notably different traction and a different operator). Another Southern or Southeastern route can wait until we've had a few more 'different' routes in other areas of the country.
     
  20. ARuscoe

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    Yeah, something else I've asked for. Get the "common denominators" in game, so pacers, sprinters, 170s and these can then be used to flesh out some of the larger stations with the "star runners" like the pendo or voyager added in and Birmingham doesn't seem so empty any more. Same for Bristol (but with 80x), Cardiff etc

    Class 350/450 are completely different from 37x so yeah, and obviously needed for SWR/SWT and anything LNWR so yes. Need those too along with some of the cattle classes
     
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  21. NotDavid

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    no need to be negative. would like to see an extension on the southeastern highspeed to like London Victoria or down the coast to ramsgate or dover p that means there would have to be more subclasses as just the /9's would not fit all of it. meaning the class 465/9's doing most of the work.
     
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  22. matt#4801

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    Why not discover other areas of the country before going back to more modern southeastern routes?
     
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  23. NotDavid

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    I didn't really say Add this now or add that next. i just said i would like to see a extension somewhere further in the future. Not Now.

    And yes i would like to see more routes and extensions in the country yeah.

    Specially around The East Coast mainline to. really would like to see that in the game. With LNER or back in the old days. GNER or Virgin trains east coast or something.


    or like great northern with there 365's.
     
  24. matt#4801

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    I would like to see the ECML though preferably in the days of the Deltics. What I can almost guarantee is that it won't be in the VTEC days due to licensing.
     
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  25. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Christ on a bike that's two people who's said that now. Am I not allowed to disagree? Nine quid in this economy, for a new variant of a train is an unreasonable price.
     
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  26. matt#4801

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    Especially when that train is another Electrostar 'varient'!

    Sorry couldn't resist.
     
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  27. NotDavid

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    it would make the game more realistic know.
     
  28. ARuscoe

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    This would depend on where they were put and whether those subclasses run the route we have in game. We see a few different subs run through medway, but not all of them so would only be "realistic" if they're the right ones
     
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  29. NotDavid

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    If the route ever got BIG explanded to like london victoria or ramsgate or dover etc it would need them i guess
     
  30. ARuscoe

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    Which isn't now, so they're not needed now
     
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  31. NotDavid

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    Wait and see you never know what there plans are next. or if not this year or next year, Train Sim World 4 ig.
     
  32. Purno

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    This ^^

    I'd rather see a train that's actually notably different from our current collection.
     
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  33. ARuscoe

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    Hopefully for the next five years they won't touch the southern or southeastern networks in their current format. We've got them already and plenty of other times and places to be created
     
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  34. NotDavid

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    negative f£$^ people were saying that they want to see London Bridge in llondon to brighton so u cant really say no to that people want things.
     
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  35. ARuscoe

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    I don't remember saying what other people want...
    What I want is variety, complexity and more than just some electric trains on the south downs

    Why not south wales, the west country, Portsmouth, Leeds, Manchester, more of Birmingham?

    Why not some freight, some freight which gets held up by passengers service, some shunting, some engineering works moves?

    There's a lot more out there than some green boxes with 3rd rail shoes
     
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  36. trainsimplayer

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    They never tried to speak on other people's behalf, you brought that into... Giving a serious impression of "You must agree with me! (Or I'll change your point)

    Also, there is much more demand on the forums for other parts of the UK than the (imo) repetitive and boring Southeast.

    It won't. It would be a totally different route in that case.
     
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  37. twinboo

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    Adding on to that list of more UK routes would be the Scottish Highlands, more Yorkshire, Northern Ireland, Cumbria, North Wales & Anglia.
     
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  38. 43050

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    Even North London routes would be more interesting than another sub class of a 375/377, be thankful you have a load of them to drive in an era you enjoy with plenty of route choice, there are loads of us that haven’t got our faves in game in any era!
     
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  39. Projectoverseer

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    Good Idea, I am sick of the '/9's' Uncomfortable and Impractical Interior. Some new subclasses I would welcome quite nicely.. :)
     
  40. NotDavid

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    Yeah the /9 subclass is SO boring now. specially would love to see like the /3 or /6 or /8
     
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  41. saxon#1462

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    I want more electrostars
     
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    If a new 375 variant were to be, unless it operated where the 375/9 doesn't, I would expect it for free as it simply wouldn't be justified due to not providing a different gameplay experience.
     
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    It would be a change. Even if it is still the same like really a change from the /9s would be fantastic.
     
  44. Indege

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    And the 377!!!!! Seeing 377/4 and /1 on what should be Watford Junction trains instead of 377/ 2 or /7 drives me up the wall
     
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  45. Projectoverseer

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    I hate the class 375/9 subclass as it is my least favourite of the class 375 subclasses, I would personally love to see the 375/7 and /8 come into Train Sim World. And also I would like to see the more "Modern" class 377 design such as the /6 and /7 subclasses. :)
     
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    (Coming to give more information since my last post here) As the Electrostar is my favourite train I would love to see the 375/7 and /8 come into Train Sim World. And also I would like to see the more "Modern" class 377 design such as the /6 and /7 subclasses. :)
     
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  47. Ferrovipathe67

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    yes but maybe in a expansion pack for 7EUR for example
     
  48. steamenthusiast1

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    As a lot of them are quite similar DTG would probably put them instead in an expansion pack.
     
  49. saxon#1462

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    Just a pantograph unit and 3 car unit
     
  50. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Bugger off! After a quick conversion that is 6 quid! Like I say I wouldn't expect DTG to give them away for free, nor would I be willing to pay for more of these pests!
     
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