Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

Well this is good to here..Good to know someones putting in the effort to try and get the technical issues ironed out.Just take the time needed to do the best possible job.

Note:I was watching a youtuber play midland mainland and they where driving the br 158 while it was snowing and seeing the wiper having 0 effect on the snow,like it wasn't even touching the window,seems hard to believe that would get missed during testing.But i'm guessing it's somewhere on the list as well.

 

This was noted on day 1.
My theory is that when someone decided to put the reflection on that window they changed it from "wipeable" to some other form of texture and nobody noticed the change.
Likely the wipers had already been tested and checked as working given the second man's side works fine.
This was acknowledged by Jane a while back so hopefully this is in the list of fixes

 

Don't remember that one, but I do remember (and loved!) "Evening Star", based around Bath Green Park (I think).

 

I still don't have a date for fix release. To be clear, however, I am determined not to rush fixes and have them properly completed and tested.

 

Funny you bring up goat simulator unlike lawn mowing simulator at least the goats have made it into space.So who knows how long before they get "baaaa"ck.


In the mean time the rest of here are just standing by until we can get back to midland mainland and the adventures that await.Once the fine tuning taken care of.

 

I've never had the game, but we had a goat when I was younger (lived on a smallholding in the middle of Gloucestershire)
All I want to know is if in game you tie the goat to a tree, does it eat the bark, climb the tree and eat your hair if you try to coax it down...

 

Hopefully some news on that with the announcement on Tuesday...

 

Goat simulator is a very different animal all together,because you don't own goats you are the goat.

 

Call me a dog with a bone but is this skyhooks ambition for MML.........

I grew up near MArch, had whitemoor, one of the largest marshalling yards in Europe prior to prison being built. Over to Peterbororugh, lot of freight goes through here and the new underground werrington junction.

This might connect to DTGS KGX to PBO imminent release too :P

boom, you have your network.... Internet broke.

 

Stop it Chief. Stop it right now.

 

Imagine if come August........

 

Impressive to say the least but how much of this is in this midland mainland route?

Hopefully Skyhook has a nice list of trains planned to fill all that track someday.

 

Just the middle portion I believe. ECML is Peterborough south and North. Not familiar with WCML

 

Is the 10mph turnout speed restriction that is signposted in game as 15mph (which I noticed on the preview) on the reported problems list?

 

Oh you're really in la la land, Chief.

This is a tiny studio doing something that even DTG wouldn't dream of in this millennium.

I think you should return to terra firma before you reach escape velocity and have to play TSW from outer space!!!

 

So not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. Why not show vanilla TSC?

 

That is not necessarily so, at all. Two people can see the same thing from different angles and come away with very different and entirely honest impressions.

 

It's only a week in, FFS! You're complaining about "rushing," but also complaining they haven't done an album's worth of screenshots already?

 

I appreciate that, JD, but by his own admission Matt is not a techie, and when it comes to those matters can only relay what the engineers tell him as he understands it.

 

Actually, no. Matt has said, and Sam also, that DTG have elected not to do route extensions in TSW because "DLC for DLC" doesn't sell; TSC's route extensions were a financial bust.

Where there is a technical hurdle to overcome is in the making of modular routes, which are not the same thing as extensions and which are on Matt's "someday" list.

 

The fact of the matter is that you were and are being frightfully rude, and continue to be so with the rest of the referenced post.
A little tact never hurt.

 

Sorry for the delay in my update everyone. I have been super busy ahead of the bank holiday.

I wanted to confirm that we have addressed the number 1 feedback item, which is the thin timetable. The timetable has been completely revised to add many more services. (I haven't counted the exact number but is substantial), including some subs where the 158 and HST stand in for other rolling stock. (to confirm, we still have the ability to add extra traction down the road without this subbing breaking anything)

You are going to see more 158 and more HST services available to you.

Additionally, we have added some freight diagrams (I don't have the exact number yet) - This is in addition to reinstating some freight and RHTT services that had to be cut at the last minute.

Once I have the exact numbers from Tom of how many services I will share, but this is a significant rework of the timetable with the added inclusion of freight.

I will talk shortly on a new feature...

 

My wallet is flapping, looks like the card wants to come out to pay

 

Good news about the Timetable.
Thanks.
Mike.

 

Excellent!

 

I think we need to clone Jayne and DTG hire her

 

Well that's very good news.

But it does beg the question: if this massive update and substantial timetable augmentation arrives on players' machines within the next few weeks, wouldn't it have been wiser to delay the release of the route for a month and get it all done prior to launch? After all, SHG seemed to know the deficiencies when they released it.


I think they've left money on the table unnecessarily. And caused more angst than they really needed. And, of course, it would have saved Jane- Skyhook a few frantic days and sleepless nights she didn't need, poor thing.


Of course it may be that DTG " persuaded " them to launch the route before it was ready.

 

Stonking news, glad I bought this earlier.

 

I'm tempted myself. But I still think I'll wait for your and other's reviews before hitting the moola button.

 

About to fire it up now, I've even postponed my ongoing rampage around Far Harbor in FO4 to try this out. Obviously with the caveat that the improvements are still to arrive.

 

I should have said " your and other's reviews after the patch ".

 

Since jan DTG has been on a release everything we can ready or not asap we need to impressive are new owners FOCUS ENTERTAINMENT with are high volume rate of releases.Which is what i think got skyhook in this technical mess they got handed.The only thing that mattered to DTG was a big $$$ to impress the new owner and something like letting skyhook fully test there newest dlc was low priority.Does anyone really believe for 2sec skyhook would have released this route in such a horrible state knowing it wasn't ready for prime time.

 

Of course forgot I had to wait for Steam to decide it wanted to download, so slight apologies to waiting passengers getting the thing in the platform!

 

But it isn't even that. There would be no persuasion, because Skyhook didn't release the route at all – they developed it, that's all, and in the time scale, to the release schedule, set in stone by the publisher, DTG. DTG were the only ones in a position to delay the route's release.

And I agree, it would have been wise for DTG to delay it.

 

Well my first impressions are - better than I expected.
The 158 is very nice - minus the issues that have been flagged. Maybe the sounds could be tweaked a little as the horn lacks that distinctive shriek of the 158 and the engine sound maybe a little high pitched. At speed these things have a bit of a roar and rumble. However streets ahead of the Rivet 150 and it does drive and indeed sound more or less like a 158 should. Nice bit of flange squeal and track joint sound too.

Haven't scoped out the HST yet, maybe later this evening.

The route - well I've only done the slow line from Leicester to EMP and yes you can see where this definitely needed more time and attention. The erroneous (?) 20 MPH that briefly flashes up in the HUD in the Syston area. Missing speed boards where the HUD shows a change. AWS magnets with nothing associated - probably meant to be advance PSR warning boards which are missing. You couldn't really drive this at the moment without the HUD. Other AWS maybe a bit too far back from the associated signal. Couldn't really tell at speed but maybe some missing lineside fencing in the Sileby area too. However again I wouldn't say as dire as WCL and nothing that a thorough rework shouldn't capture. As others have attested, it looks like this was snatched from the hands of the builder(s) before it was really ready for prime time.

So there is potential here and I don't regret my purchase. Worth £30? Probably not in its current state but if the promised fixes are forthcoming then fair enough. The 158 will certainly be getting a workout on the other UK routes, even if not in the correct livery.

 

Lucky you! Never managed a single 46 haul, even when I went on routes where they regularly depped for dying 40s !

 

Oh FFS give them a chance at least before you start moaning!

 

Moaning huh? This has been a ongoing issue with dtg for years and worrying how it might affect there 3rd parties i considered a valid concern under the circumstances.


But Jane did address this concern in a early post.

 

This is great news. I have held from buying this DLC and it looks like the wait has paid off. I’m optimistic about it and I wish I could say the same for NYT. This is good news

 

I have seen this route getting alot of play in youtube videos and alot of reliverys in the games share a livery section.So to what degree is this route broken because it's clear it still playable?

 

Not intended, but I guess inevitable. I don't own this DLC (yet), but I'm genuinely really quite excited to see this one work out well so I can buy the route. Outside of the big fixes I thought the updates to Syston Station looked really good, and things like like that really make me want to buy the content

 

Buy BCC and give it a go with a 101 using this mod, Vern:

https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m.../c19-patches/i3298-cross-city-timetable-swaps

It's not quite a 116 in 1976, but it's still a really interesting and challenging drive and has a really nice historical feel to it, despite the modern scenery elements. BCC is a well made route, and using this mod is one of the best driving experiences in TSW at the moment, in my view.

 

I'm sure many will be aware, but there's a free Spectrum emulator for PCs (possibly more than one ) with the Southern Belle 'tape' available:
https://zxspectrum4.net/library_ini...wson_Consultants_Ltd_tape_for_the_ZX_Spectrum
(disclaimer: I haven't tried to get this working)

 

If you isolate the TPWS (there's a separate thread explaining how to do this) then it's playable. You have to overlook various issues, explained ad nauseum in this thread, but if you're prepared to do that then there are lots of good things about it. A lot of the issues (such as speed signs and AWS ramps in the wrong places) should be perfectly fixable, and the promised timetable improvements will help a lot too. I'm hopeful that with the upcoming patch it can become a really good route.

 

thank you for that, I see a plan for the weekend!!

 

Fantastic news about the timetable great work Skyhook and Jane can't wait to see what the update is like thank you

 

Don't need to isolate it, just be aware of where the one failure is and slow down for it, then drive as normal

 

The two trains on this route are genuinely fantastic. Hopefully with an update they can fix all of the things that need to be fixed and are easily fixed.

But they’ve absolutely knocked Rivet out of the water when it comes to the locomotives. I’m very impressed with them.

 

There’s definitely more than one which is set to an incorrect speed - and to be honest, one is enough in any case. Isolating the TPWS doesn’t really take anything away from the sim as it’s an unobtrusive system - i.e. in real life if you’re driving in a proper manner, you don’t interact with it in any way, so it makes no difference whether it’s isolated or not. On a sim you may as well isolate it to avoid unrealistic activations.

 

Just had a quick go with the HST (after trying to get a bit more bass out of my Realtek sound driver and Creative speakers) and wow, those sounds are lush. Top job on that especially as you can run with the cab doors open unlike the GWE variant. Again I can see that going on tour. Of course it amplifies the fact we need this route longer for more space to stretch its legs but yeah really impressed. I was overly sceptical and yes the route needs much work to bring it up to snuff (in hand, we hope) but SHG with help from their friends at AP and DTG have nailed the trains in terms of performance and sounds.