PC Class 37/7 Epx Has No Jurney Mode?

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  1. pterocles#7018

    pterocles#7018 Active Member

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    I bought the EPX and there is no journey mode, is that normal? I can only see it in timetable mode.
    I bought the Class 66 with the cleaning coaches at the same time and it does have journey mode.
    An ideas?
     
  2. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, no journey mode.

    That DLC pack fell inline with all the other recent releases, shoved out the door.
     
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  3. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Not every train has a "journey mode". Not sure why they choose to have one or not, but they're curated scenario and timetable runs anyway so you could just make one up
     
  4. Cael

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    So curated that at least 2 of the total 40 on DTG's last route (Linke Rheinstrecke) cannot be completed due to a red light bug.

    I don't know, is the Journey mode still relevant and necessary to be a part of every release?
     
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    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    What has "curating" got to do with bugs???

    Probably not, but some people use it as a means of getting introduced to a route without the repetitive nature of the timetable mode
     
  6. coursetim

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    This was one of the downfalls for me as well. A few did ask DTG about it but as far as I'm aware there was no official reply. It would've been nice for them to just pop the scenarios and services into one as I do enjoy completing them to gold etc.

    Are they difficult to do or was it decided not to do one as they aren't popular? Would be interesting to know the reasoning as thats something I feel like could be on the list for all dlc DTG Matt :)
     
  7. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Every pack should have a journey - i'll go find out why that was missed, as you say, they're pretty easy to make, and are a key way many users find and play the content.

    Matt.
     
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  8. redrev1917

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    This was a deciding factor for me on why this and the other packs released at the same time got left on the shelf.
     
  9. Cael

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    According to the Miriam-Webster dictionary:
    curated; curating; curates
    transitive verb
    1: to select (the best or most appropriate) especially for presentation, distribution, or publication

    So if a journey service starts with a permanent red light, it's ok because Journey mode is curated?
     
  10. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    I think you need to get off whatever horse you're on (probably a little high) and if you have bugs to report go report them. This post is about journey mode and why some assets don't have them so unless the red light it part of a scenario it has naff all to do with this
     
  11. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Cant speak of Koblenz Mainz (as I dont own it) but in TSW3 I've attempted 1,154 journey services of which only 14 couldn't be completed, that sounds a lot but that includes 7 on the RT BR182, so works out at about 1.4% including RT or 0.6% including.

    I've 686 services to attempt.

    Not saying that there isnt an issue (because IMO even 1 is a game breaking bug), but its greatly exaggerated.
     
  12. pterocles#7018

    pterocles#7018 Active Member

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    Would be nice to see the journey mode added at some point as an update. I understand that a lot of people don't use them though I nearly always play in journey mode and I believe I am not the only one.

    BTW why would that be not popular?
     
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  13. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    You're not the only one (I do that too when starting a new route) but some people don't actually like the curated nature with fixed times and weather etc, they like to set their own parameters
     
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    [Removed - Alex: Inappropriate]
     
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    White knighting? I don't think I'm trying to ride in, save the day and come away with the plaudits...
    In this case I don't think the comments above are anything to do with the topic.
    If you want a forum where every post turns into a "lets bash DTG because of the red light issue", fine. I don't
     
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    [Removed - Alex: Inappropriate]
     
  17. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Nah, if I was a mod it would be much more fun... you know the mod hammer is always a good thing
    Anyway, what does this charming conversation have to do with journey mode (you know, before the real mods come along and shut the post down for being off track)?
     
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  18. MYG92

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    You’re pathetic and ridiculous behind that alt account created recently bashing and ranting other members… there’s nicer ways of arguing instead of taking like a complete ignorant…
     
  19. redrev1917

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    Agree, hopefully the admin will run an IP address history and perma ban both accounts. Their mother must be so proud.
     
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    Yeah I hope so it’s becoming more and more common sadly that many threads are derailing ( no pun intended)
     
  21. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Let's not feed the troll. Just report the post and let a moderator handle it :)
     
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    I've found the 'journey' mode quite excellent at introducing a route. Can be quite fun and entertaining.
     
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  23. pterocles#7018

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    Also nice to collect the medals. Though one must have infinite time to complete a journey mode....unfortunately I don't have but this is my problem:) Anyway journey mode is fun!
     
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    I see no Class 33 journey.

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    I use journey mode a lot! Even years after joining the TSW community, I’d guess about 50-70% of services I do are the curated ones from journey mode. I especially like the smaller and themed chapters.
    All in all, it’s great to hear this is being looked into! I think there are some great possibilities for themed chapters here (seasons, weather, delivering and then returning the same train from modernization work etc.).
     
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  27. Purno

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    I recently started playing journeys too, they certainly have their fun sides.

    Biggest downside, IMO, is that they don't benefit any locos from other routes substituting in. Locos that are available in timetable mode, but journey mode only utilizes the locos that came with the route or associated loco DLC.
     
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    DTG Matt looks like the DB BR155 journey is also missing. Can't seem to find it.

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  29. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Locos that were already out before Journey was added have not had a journey added to them retrospectively, no, so that one doesn't surprise me.

    Matt.
     
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    Is this something the Special Project Team is going to add to our preserved collection?
     
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    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    Journeys are already done for all of the New Journeys 2 collection - just waiting release, which I think wont be long :)

    Matt.
     
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    Do the locos in timetable mode that substitute in from other routes appear as AI as well?
     
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    I believe they do. Journey mode only seems to dictate the loco for the player train. (And it dictates weather settings). Other than that, I believe it's just regular Timetable mode.
     
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  34. coursetim

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    Thats what I thought, definitely seen layers on BML.
     
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    Hi Matt, just watching the roadmap stream regarding the Loco Addons pack and was wondering if the journeys were included with the update or if its something that'll have to be done at a later date? :)
     
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    Before I make a fool of myself let me go check for 100% sure they are in the builds now ... I know they're done :)
     
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    Hello all, Hello DTG Matt,
    I noticed a problem with the Class 37/7 add-on, I don't see the Class 37/7 in AI on the SEHS route.
    I don't know if it's related to this week's update on SEHS schedules (?!).
    If I launch a Class 37/7 service directly from the time mode, no problem. But if I start on foot or a service with another locomotive, nothing.
    For example: I set off on foot from the Gillingham depot at 11:30 AM, there should be Class 37/7 on standby before its 11:32 AM service, but it's not there.
    Tried other Class 37/7 AI services but nothing. I'm on Steam (PC), without any mods.
    Thank.
     
  38. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    I think they only run in specific months of the year as AI, try adjusting the month.
     
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    Indeed, after your advice, I only see this service in March and April. I didn't know this subtlety for this DLC.
    Thank you very much DTG Matt for your quick response, even on Saturday. Have a nice week-end. ;)
     
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    Most novelty layers have a time of year set on them, partially because of how theuy might run in reality but also because it allows you to run without them being present by choosing a different time of year.
     
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    Realistic to the end, I appreciate the time mode, precisely for that. Awesome. :love:
     
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    FWIW, here is a list of seasonal services on SEHS that I believe is reasonably accurate:

    RHTT: Sep, Oct, Nov
    Class 37 ROG: Jan, Feb, Mar
    Class 47 rail tour: May, Jun, Jul, Aug
    Class 33 rail tour: Mar, Apr, May
    TGV: March, April.
    465: summer services Jun, Jul, Aug
    Steam Railtour: Jun- Dec
     
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    One Class 33 is in January.
     
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    I'll be honest I keep forgetting about the journey mode, as I'm so used to clicking on 'choose a route'. Need to start getting back into it, I enjoyed completing the GWE (original) journey mode, DTG Matt speaking of GWE is there any update on the derailment and redlight bugs for DLOGW?
     

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