The (1st) Just Trains Route: Preston - Blackpool And Omskirk

They are they use the Voith hydraulic transmission as with the other Sprinters and Pacers.

Class 101's would not have been seen on the WHEL nor any other DMU I don't think, except for one driving trailer which I believe was used as an observation car but unpowered, or was it one of the other Highland lines, I know it was painted in the green and cream livery.

 

I still think it is going to be Preston to Blackpool in some form, it fits in with two of the developers experience, in fact I think one of them is a Blackpool tram driver or has been. In the possible period set it could include a first generation DMU (no doubt the 101) and any of the classic diesels we have in the sim will fit in too. I just hope we get some mark 1 carriages as those mark 2's are getting like the 101 and getting everywhere!

 

It could be a class 120 as they were used in Scotland on that line specifically I think.

 

Thanks for clearing that one up mate.

 

The original Scottish allocated sets (allocated to Inverness) were used between Aberdeen and Inverness in the 1960's and 1970's. Then some sets were used around the Glasgow and Edinburgh areas often with class 101 centre cars and sometimes in other unusual hybrid sets ,on suburban services, many of the vehicles came from the western region and Chester and Derby I think. There were never used on the WHEL line. After steam type 2 diesels were used then the class 37's then the 156's.

 

I somehow have a feeling it could be the Durham coast line from Newcastle to Middlesbrough with the line being 39.5 miles long though I don't know what rolling stock would be present. It could be rolling stock that works with tees valley line set in 1989.

 

It’s relatively a local line to where I live;

LNER Azuma sometimes use it though I don’t think regular

then it’s Class 156 that replaced the 142 for local stopping services

Grand Central 43’s and 180’s I’ve also seen on it use it regularly and Class 66 freight services

running all the way into Newcastle central means you would pass the metro lines and also go onto them from Sunderland to Newcastle so class 994 also fit.

 

Newcastle towards York...Class 55 Deltic...wild guess.

 

rather lengthy for the first route in TSW by a third party

 

Of course, it's some 85 miles innit. That's why I said Newcastle towards York. I figure you have to have either two nowhere to nowhere points, or one. Newcastle to "blank"...

 

understand , couldn’t really see the route heading further than Darlington, but heading south out of Newcastle, pretty much just leaves Durham as the only other station on the route.

having quite an empty route like that may not be the best idea in my opinion. But I guess it won’t be too long now before we all find out what it is

 

Very true, whatever it is I'll hazard it will be an interesting addition. The JT devs tended to do a decent job and I never regretted getting one of their routes or locos for Railworks/TSC. Fingers crossed.

 

Preston to Blackpool South 17 Miles. Preston to Blackpool North 18.9 Miles total 35.9 miles so can't be Preston to Blackpool as it's short of 40 miles

 

I guess this is Cardiff to Bristol.This route is 45miles long.

 

Well they might not have been being exact. It could include the Burn Naze freight branch which was still open then I believe.

It might not be the Blackpool line but we know it is in development by someone or has been mooted at least. Also the JT developers to have experience and knowledge of the area. It might be the DTG route of course.

 

I guess it will be Birmingham More Street to Stratford-upon-Avon

 

Originally Pacers Class 142 have a TL 11 engine and Lorry Gear box recording is from 1988

Here's a Class 142 & 144 Pacers at Penistone

 

Thanks but I was referring to the 156s. Interesting videos though.

 

hope we find out more on this route on tuesday

 

By the look of it the route is still in development with no release date in sight or name announced yet so it may come out in a few months.

 

It seems to be 46 miles or so, so my prediction that it is Preston to Blackpool seems to be incorrect.

 

Someone on the TSC Discord did point out - after measuring on an OS Map or something - that, if the old Fleetwood lines and stuff remain in the route, it works out to pretty much bang on 46 Miles.

 

Edited the OP.

 

If it’s 1951-1990, I would definitely guess sometime in the 1980’s/ just say 1990

 

It could be any decade and any year in that time span. I am hoping for a 70s route where there are the blue diesels but with the head code boxes still there as that is probably my favourite look for any loco or unit.

 

Thought the comment about “at pace” must be a hint at it being a Pacer.

 

just a guess, we’ll see more in probably about two months.

 

Yes this is definitely the route I am most looking forward to this year.

 

i hope this route is much better than what we got from skyhook

 

being JT, i imagine it will be.

 

From what i've heard about just trains it will be a great route maybe better than ntp.

 

I think the JT route is Cardiff to Swansea the route is about 46 miles Cardiff to Swansea is 45 and a quarter miles it mentions a terminus Swansea is a terminus it also says there are many stations and if you go back to the sixties there are loads of stations. And you have Cardiff Canton depot and Landore and if you like freight you have Margam yard. I think if they did this route with a few decent engines this route could have huge potential.

 

But what stock I wonder then. Are JT making any stock in house? If not then presumably they are using what is already available.

Presumably the diesel mechanical element will be the good old class 101 of which there were some in South Wales at various times but not in large numbers. What would the loco be, the class 47 would be the best fit and maybe a remodelled HST? Presumably it wouldn't be set pre 1977 as surely they would use the Western.

 

I would hope JT would try and add a new loco and a few wagons and not totally recycle DTG current inventory.

 

They haven't made any trains for TSC for many years now from what I am aware. Of course they might have hired someone or paid a third party to build stock.

 

If they wanted to be realistic for the late 70s and 80s they would have a mix of blue and grey mk1s and mk2s which I think would be great and as you say the english electric would almost certainly be a 47 but I think they would also do a remodelled 37 and possibly HST also I think 45s would layer on to the route as they worked Newcastle - Swansea’s and the odd other train and of course the 101.

 

Could quote this post and swap out the place names for Preston - Blackpool (+ closed lines to Fleetwood and Blackpool Cent') and you'd be as close to the answer.

A fair number of candidates now.

I'll add yours to the OP.

 

Keep the guesses coming folks. Winner gets the grand prize of...

Well, they get the ability to say 'called it' and be very smug about it, I guess.

 

Its going to be the London - Reading Great Western Line in the late 1960's -1970's (35miles) plus Henley Branch (4 miles) 7 Marlow Branches (7 miles).

I mean it wont be, but it could be.

 

I don’t think if that can be Preston to Blackpool now that it has overhead commuters, and if it is diesel mechanical it at least has to be something like a BR HS4000

 

The time period is for 1950s-1990s, not modern day.

 

The JT route is set in the 1951-1990 period, so PresBlkpool is a good option.

 

How about Exeter to Plymouth...appr. 45 miles, very scenic, with 1970's electrification, and also featuring DMU's. That's my serious guess.

 

Would be a great route to have but it isn't electrified.

 

Another wild idea - Wherry Lines? Just trying to figure the total mileage of Norwich to Yarmouth via Acle and Berney Arms plus Lowestoft. That must be up in the mid 40's somewhere.

 

Argh, just goes to show you can't believe everything you read (or misread) on Wikipedia...even had nice little picci of Margaret Thatcher...


Kind regards,
Dave

 

The Steam Page for TSC says 44.1mi - although if there's any depots or little freight spurs they could end up ticking it over the line.

I'll add it to the OP.

 

Wherry lines would fit as we have the 101 in the sim and Norwich had many class 101's, a lot were power trailer sets though which we don't have. The class 31 and 47 would also fit in well on services from Liverpool Street to Yarmouth and engineers trains.

 

After the leak of information about the Preston-Blackpool route, there was no understanding of who is working on this route: DTG, JT or ATS. After the announcement of the new DTG route, and considering the lack of any information about the development of the ATS, I am inclined to think that Blackpool is being worked on by Just Trains. Especially after information about the route with possible branches, the total length of which is close to 46 miles, was presented on the forum. And as a new rolling stock, I expect the British Rail Class 142 Pacer from the guys.

 

I would understand if it was, but I really hope it isn't. I just can't get on with the 101...

I would be very excited for the Wherry lines, that was one of my favourite TSC routes.
But it wouldn't be the same without the 153 or 156s. And then you could get the 158 to layer in as AI and get a semi-populsted Norwich station.

I mean, they did say 26 done and around 20 to go. So I guess that could be a throw-off?