Hey all, TrainGeek08 here back with another suggestion, but it isn't a route... it isn't even a loco... it's a service suggestion which is different but I'll give it a go Why Banking services? I'm suggesting banking services to be added onto Birmingham Cross-City as it happens in real life still on a couple of services going up the Lickey Incline out of Bromsgrove What do I mean about banking services and their purpose in Train Sim World 3? All the freight services stop at Bromsgrove so it makes sense for the heavier trains going from Bromsgrove to King's Norton would have a banker (another 66) on the rear to assist it up the Lickey to Blackwell where there is a loop for the banker to be taken off the consist Main Spessart Bahn is a good example of this as a 185.2 couples to the rear of your train at Laufach, hauls you up the Spessartrampe to Heigenbrucken, then it detaches and heads light back to Laufach awaiting it's next duty , which leads me onto the next question... Would the MSB principle work on BCC? Yes, in BCC's terms, the 66 would go from Blackwell down the Lickey, run through Bromsgrove Platforms 3 or 4, reverse to a point where it can couple to the rear of the freight train, run to the rear of the freight, couple onto the waiting train on Platform 1 at Bromsgrove, bank it up to the loop at Blackwell, uncouple the banker, then the front 66 would drive normally to King's Norton where it will diverge onto the Camp Hill Line and the banker parks up in the middle siding awaiting it's next duty or it goes back to Saltley L.I.P (King's Norton) if it isn't required for too much diagrams This video gives you some real footage and evidence banking services still exist on the Lickey: Lickey Incline - 66150+66056 banker & 66846 21-22/03/2014 - YouTube Now I have a question to Dovetail about implementation: Dovetail, you have done it before on Main Spessart Bahn and Peak Forest and mostly all the American freight routes where required so what's stopping you adding this to BCC, all you are doing is adding some more 66 services as the Lickey Bankers are Class 66's anyway so I would love this to be implemented in game if possible please (DTG Matt, this is your time to shine, if you would to talk about the reasons why it wasn't included in the base timetable, then go ahead ) I hope you enjoyed this rather different suggestion from me today, put your thoughts on the Lickey bankers making an appearance on Birmingham Cross City as I feel it will add to the immersion a little bit as freight trains seem to struggle to get up the Lickey just now, going down is OK but going up isn't and heavily requires banking functionality, I've been TrainGeek08 as usual and I'll see you for another suggestion, CC release announcement or June's CC Roadmap announcement (which is due around now anyway), see you later everybody, goodbye
Bring it on to the game and remember some services that are heavy can climb up the Lickey Incline easily if they had a Class 60. In some cases a Class 60 Banker locomotive services. Class 60 unassisted Lickey Incline Provided a route with Class 60 is made and layer here and remember Class 60 trades Horsepower of Class 66 for tractive effort.
More often than not it is a 66 but the 60 us a viable alternative if DTG doesn't want to use the 66 all over again
Nice, I'd agree on the Lickey bankers that they are desperately needed in game and it is a good opportunity for a 60 to enter the TSW franchise with potential layers to MML to make Toton accessible
Fair enough, just thought the 66 would make more sense as it is already in game but a 60 would be nice
The weight limit for a Class 66 before a banker is required is 1050 tonnes. Not sure about a 60. There are also further limits according to coupler strengths which might require a loco on the rear to prevent breakage or pulling out a drawbar but I don’t think that information is in a publicly viewable document.
Thanks for the information Vern, I totally agree with that, I thought a 66 would make more sense as it's in game already, interested to hear about those weight and coupler information now
I will have to see if I can remember any of the other maximum loads but as it’s getting on for 5 years since I retired, the memory is a bit hazy. The load that can be hauled isn’t also just about horsepower either, the Class 67 was rated for much less than the 66 due to being geared for 125 MPH top speed.
Yeah fair enough, it would be cool to implement banking functionality in game, I think it's just how heavy the trains are in timetable mode, especially the ones going up the Incline as well Maybe a new timetable with longer trains to enable banking to become an option could work but we'll see
Yes it gets my vote I've been on quite a few passenger trains that have been banked up the Incline usually by a pair of Class 37's and on one occasion a class 47. So it would be nice to some how get it included if possible and it would make the route more interesting
Nice, I totally agree as it would increase the realism of heavier trains being banked up the Lickey as well
There are some multi engine 66 services on SEHS such as 6V92. Yet, when I run it only one engine seems to be responding to the lead with the others idling. Is there a Banking button for the 66? It made for a challenge getting going in the snow. Also, I notice that there are no snow or rain effects on the 66 wind screen. Is this true for all versions of the 66?
I know the SEHS 66 has banking comm for services that do require to be banked as I have tested it before on the Training Center and it works, not sure on the ECW or GWE versions of the 66 though, but I'd presume they would have banking comm as well
Thank you! I was wondering how to set it up, but it is explained in the ECW Cutting Closure scenario. Matt runs through all that here:
No problem, yeah it works like how Matt explains in the video, so it is a feature that can be used for banking on BCC
