New German Loco - Speculation Thread

I'll be honest, I wouldn't mind if we got a Train that we can use for Passengers and Freight Services. Depending on the release Route, we don't even need new Dostos.

 

No god please no

 

Could be the BR 102? That's dual powered. Also does the Br 181 have a contact shoe? I can't tell in the photos.

 

So?

 

Because it’s inly a lococ we also have to take a look what is possible with the routes we have!
In my opinion it would be:
-Vectron (every route except Niddertalbahn and Left Rhine)
-ICE-T with an update for Riesa-Dresden
-ICE-4 for SKW

 

Railjets don't run there. They go via Kufstein and Rosenheim.

 

181 has electrical system for France and Luxembourg

 

Hey guys, as soon as something is in the roadmap, speculation starts. That's what makes the forum so interesting everytime. I think it will definitely be an electric locomotive, since a complete ICE-T or ICE4 would be too much of a good thing before the big summer release. I have therefore quickly listed all previous electric locomotives that Siemens has produced, because we already have enough TRAXX locomotives from Bombardier in TSW. From E7 or from 2011, only the BR193 Vectron would come into question, which again brings with it a lot of painting potential for the Livery Designer!

 

It only means that 2011+ is the state it’s depicted in, not that that is when it was built.

 

The question is also how do address the largest group of fans with it? Either a lesser-known BR102 from Škoda is used, or a Vectron that was made over 1700 times and distributed throughout Europe. It could by postponing the release of the BR420 from TSG, the E7 loco was pushed in between to keep the German fans happy, as everything in TSW is about UK content at the moment.

 

You are correct and in the case of DB BR102 it doesn't use the existing Doppelstockwagen 767.2 766.2 780 785 it has its own Doppelstockwagen as seen in this picture which is a Skoda type

This means it has to have its own native route to be introduced Schnellfahrstrecke Nürnberg München which has a unique feature Slab Tracks something that Schnellfahrstrecke Hannover Würzburg lacks.
On the earlier post Vectron DM has an alternate paint scheme white and red to actually run ICE L Talgo 230 Oberstdorf trips and Marschbahn
ARD MDR Talgo 230
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/wirtschaft/video-655364~amp.html

 

At least it goes between Munich and Augsburg to go in the direction of Frankfurt

 

But hey, we got the first information about it 2 days ago, and that was a code which may even be wrong.
Although it is supposed to release within 3 Months, so I’m exited to see what more information/leaks will appear and also which loco is agreeing will come before any new information

 

You are correct and if you want to know the exact time these are
20:40 München Hbf Augsburg Hauptbahnhof 21:10
08:40 Augsburg Hbf 09:10 München Hbf what happens to this service is that you actually overtake a regional service that had left earlier from Augsburg to München Hbf. At the same time you actually finish the mileage run True Taurus 1820 km since the game will treat ÖBB Baureihe 1116 as a DB MRCE Dispolok Baureihe 182. However you have a problem is that the Railjet 1116 is simply a reskinned and rebuilt DB Baureihe 182 Rapid Transit. If the development team wants that correct it should be the other way around ÖBB Baureihe 1016/1116 being cloned to make the 182 Traffic Red Black and Yellow versions

 

Yes exact is not a ICE for me ,for me it's a New freight locomotive

 

Please notice the code of the model indicates modern era.
So that one is not possible in this case

 

As I had mentioned above, I believe it is the Vectron, which it will be great!
The other fact, will be on which paint scheme?
Probably DB.
But this locomotive is used by MRCE, and Railpool too, which also have license for the game.
Probably DB will be the launch one, one of the others included on another existing route you may have, and the other one as part of a new future "Loco Add-on Bundle"
I am just guessing.

 

The code indicates the timeframe of the model they create, not when it was built

 

Yes it is just a locomotive.
Hopes the sound be the reight one from the beginning!
Not suffering again the bad issue with Skyhook's 187.
Despite it had a sound change, it is not the right one yet as promised some years - now -from DTG..

 

Sorry, but I believe the code is related to the real locomotive "lifetime".
Not related to TSW.

 

Here’s the code for the Br 204 for example:
1.DGG-L7 01

The DR V100 (which is the upper class of the BR 204) was was built until 1985, so the „7“ in the code definitely Isn’t for the time it was build, but in which timeframe the loco comes (in this case MSB, which is represented in the time period from 2011 onwards)

Here’s also the list for many more add ons for comparison: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...857.170201832.1679244589-233764897.1630923818

 

Maybe I’m wrong, because I’m also not sure, but thx for still being polite

 

Thinking in the last three DLCs for Germany: BRO, LRS, and NTB. For me the freight locomotive that is clearly missing (specially for LRS) is the DB140 (E-40), locomotive is still in use even today, so as well was in 2011, and should be easy to implement as like the DB110 (E-10), both were Einheits-Elektrolokomotive.

 

Here a few art impressions of the skoda "Wendezug Train":

 

It would need a new 3D model. I'm curious though if Simugraph is as powerful as they say it is - if so, the physics should only require a change in gearing and removal of the electric brake. The problem is, we generally don't get multiple paint schemes in one pack. A 2011+ 140 would either be in traffic red or privately owned. A 90s 140 for Left Rhine would need a different paint job: chrome oxide green, ocean blue beige, or orient red. What I wouldn't give for a 140 in TSW...

 

The question is: For which route is the timtable and the scenarios developed?

The most logical answers: Routes with TSW3 lighting.

And these are:
1. Kassel - Würzburg
2. Bremen - Oldenburg
3. Left rhine.

We can cross out both 2. and 3. as both routes are set before 2011. That leaves us as an opportunity: Kassel-Würzburg.

For KWG this routes is used by ICE's and freight trains.
The only multi-current ICEs are the BR 406 (which we already have. Also it doesn't run on KWG). And the BR 407 aka Velaro-D.
So the Velaro-D might be a candidate.
For freight, there are some more opportunities: Vectron (BR 193), BR 189 and even BR 152. And BR 186.
The code mentining "2011+" probably rather refers to the service pattern than the production. So although the 189 was produced between 2003-2005, it doesn't rule that loco out. All the locos mentioned above are candidates for a loco DLC.
Imo, i think the Vectron is the most logical. It is used basically everywhere in germany for freight and all over europe both for freight and passenger services. It's a great layer for future DLCs, can be substituted for nearly all other timetables and could be part of a main route for the next release. And even for cross border routes, maybe germany-austria, germany-switzerland, germany-BeNeLux and france as well as germany-poland and czech republic.

Now there is also another opportunity: a TSW2 route get's an TOD4 upgrade to have TSW3 lighting. This could be basically every route we have. But the two most logical are:

1. München - Augsburg and
2. Dresden-Riesa.

Both routes are 2011+. So let's see what's in for 1.:

München-Augsburg will get that upgrade for 100%. We know that as the BR 420 is also in development for it. So it must have the upgrade for the loco DLC. On that route all the locos mentioned above doing freight services can be possible a DLC for MAG. And me again saying, the vectron is the most logical and community pleasing loco.
For passenger services, as mentioned above, i think the ÖBB 1216 (BR 193 in germany) with a railjet or nightjet train is a candidate (though i don't know if it's really multi-current). The railjet is more likely as it has more services. Though a nightjet would be lovely.
I think the BR 102 is also a multi-current loco. But iirc the München-Nürnberg-Express doesn't run on HMA. So it makes no sense.

But: Matt said - and console players know the pain - that MAG needs a huge memory update. It doesn't even have standard layers for console. I think it's already a hard job to implement the 420. But putting both the 420 and another train into the tt might bring the old PS4 to it's end. So in general, i doubt that MAG will have the DLC.

That brings us to DRA: As DTG upgraded bBoston Sprinter to TOD4 and made a loco DLC (Acela), it makes me think that DRA also deserved both the TOD4 upgrade and a loco DLC.
Now the most logical loco DLC for DRA is actually an ICE-T. But it's not multi-current, so we can rule it out categorically.
That leaves us - again - the above mentioned freight locos.

I personally think it will be a Vectron, either for KWG or for DRA with an TOD4 upgrade.

 

They haven't upgraded both other rush hour routes to TOD4 lighting, only Boston was upgraded, and the class 700 is for sehs not bml, bml was rush hour route, sehs wasn't.

 

It was also confirmed bml will not be getting a tod4 upgrade due to optimization and memory limitation issues

 

I would guess that there will be a Vectron locomotive. This locomotive is found all over Europe, it has many color variations. In TSW we can use it on most German tracks. And it's my favorite locomotive.

 

CARGO

Passenger

 

My bad! Thanks for correcting.

 

The issue I see with TOD4 for DRA is similar to Brighton: already bursting at the processing seams so can't handle additional load.

 

The Vectron or Euro Dual would be a giant step for TSW, hope its one of them. The HVLE is gigantic (23m in lenght!)

 

（Maybe it's a rumour！）
Has anyone noticed this update log in steamdb? A development record appears for a depot (2259152) under development along with koln-aachen railway (1998967). Feel free to leave future updates on 2259152 in the future, maybe it will give us some surprises.

 

Ooooooooo

So does that mean that the loco could come within a month?

 

Could this be a DB 187 locomotive repair? There could be a bigger fix coming out.

 

Reference to previous loco dlc, unlikely to be released in June

 

Ah, ok. But I still think it will release before August

 

According to the May routemap description, BR187 is in 'red light' status and the depot for 187 is 1998942, which has not had a new update recorded for a long time

 

To be honest after nearly 2 years Skyhook can’t mix properly the sound nor fix everything else and now it’s in “red light” status, more like it’ll stay this way but giving us some false hope. I think as well that’s the new German locomotive but maybe it’ll come later this summer as the Class 700 is under development and activities are reduced during holidays, once again I’m speculating

 

I'm hoping for the long needed IC cab car but that not likely part of this add on.

 

Hey wait a minute…
The class 700 is supposed to release in summer, just like the German loco.

What are the chances that there will be a Loco add on bundle?

Maybe there also be an American locomotive add on coming?

WHAT IF THAT IS THE SUMMER RELEASE?!

(time to put the tinfoil hat back down)

 

I don't think DTG is going to do a loco bundle when they can sell each train separately. So far, the bundles were based on existing rolling stock with minor changes and repaints. Furthermore, there would be many people who would want to pick up only one or two trains out of the bundle.

But it is possible they are planning to double-dip and release a route the loco DLC can layer into (precedent for this assumption is the Acela and NY-Trenton). I can also imagine them doing a regular bundle (Rush Hour style pack with routes A,B,C) and a deluxe/premium bundle (routes A, B, C + train D, E)

This is of course only speculation, only time will tell what summer has in store for us. Hopefully, it will arrive with a boatload of fixes.

 

For me it's now a BR 186 or a vectron MS

 

Anyway another pantographer... where are german diesels?

 

Well the 232 is still coming, and we know that a 218 will also come, although it’s very far away

 

Well to wet our whistles

 

...a photo filter was placed over the (hopefully TSW) 3D model, but the locomotive proportions look better than the well-known TSC model. The front windows are also very well done, great job TSG!

 

A wild Mouthwatering Screenshot appears!