Let's Speculate What Will Be On June's Road Map

I was thinking the same thing, probably with recycled Gevo and SD40-2. It's one of my favorites from TSC.

 

I'd rather wait and see what we get, that ways my hopes and dreams wont be dashed by guessing completely wrong.
Yes I understand people want to speculate but when the speculation in some peoples minds are "ooh well they said it will be this, they said it will be that" then it turns out the speculation was way off the mark then that's where the LOVE comments from the community come in as certain persons interpreted speculation as a gospel release.
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Does that line even see anything else besides Coal traffic IRL? Cause AFAIK the main line is only to a coal mine and back, and not much else was modeled on the TSC version of the map (And given how some people complain about light timetables) I don't see that route coming to TSW.

 

For a passenger route, there are several options. There's njt, mbta, mta and amtrak. That's where the licenses are. They do have caltrain but the one in game is the only one i think.

 

I’m suspecting and placing a non existent bet that we will likely hear about the announced routes this month followed by the summer release (usually the 3 route bundle) next month.

as for the 232, it’s been planned that the 420 comes first, so any announcement from TSG on individual locos will be the 420 before the 232.

 

I could be wrong but I'd hedge my bets on Tehachapi Pass being the next us freight route.

 

Without the Industry side of things from Run 8, though... And then yet again with Cajon already existent, we end up with two routes in the same area, standalone with a gap in the middle (Mojave to Barstow).

 

id like to see a better scenario planner with more access to sidings and platforms.

 

I would Just like to see all track in a route to be accessible. Right now its like the ending to the old TV show Bullseye. "Lets have a look at what you could have had" .

 

I'm surprised the UE5 dreamers haven't popped in to say hello

 

Well some members have but in different threads lol. There's one forum member who's really vocal about ue5 coming to tsw which if you've been on forums for a bit, you would know who it is

 

We should hear about the summer bundle if only in passing. Yes we'll get a bundle such as Rush Hour, the ecomonics dictate it.

Personally I hope 2023 is the time we get route extensions, I suspect SHG are already planning an extension for MML, so it makes sense for DTG to help make it possible.

DTG wise I'd hope we'll get the following in summer:

Germany: An updated MSB extending on from SKW perhaps extending over to Frankfurt (although unlikely), either way it will be the modern version with the tunnel rather than the long climb.
USA: An extension for NEC Trenton probably Northwards towards New Haven, with the carrot dangled about Matt wanting to join up with Boston Sprinter but "nothing on the roadmap and not in development currently".
UK: A further extension to SEHS - albeit a paid expansion. Hopefully the rest of the line from Faversham to Ashford via Dover or perhaps Dartford to Victoria, if its the latter expect this to be the flagship extension.

 

No thanks. Plenty of new routes are still available before we go back to old ones.

 

I wonder what are some busy commuter routes in Germany?

I know GEML is rich with stations in the London area and has some branches.

Rumour is Sydney Australia might be getting looked at...they have good urban rail.

If Japan makes it then we will have some Rush Hour routes....

Berlin to Leipzig..... (the Wittenburg route which is real nice and finely detailed also airport branch)

I could live with a US freight route coming in November but it might be announced in July.

Possible US route for Rush hour

Chicago commuter


Freight US

Illinois single track

Florida

Other such as Texas or something we have no idea about.

Another route that might top the list is Norway. Oslo to Bergen is one of the most scenic routes. I guess it would be Bergen to somewhere 150km towards Oslo.

Another to consider is Sweden or even Netherlands. Rich passenger services.

Since New York has already 4 routes in TSW (TSW3 has 3) I don't think another will come but I cant rule out the NE Corridor to New Haven


Hamburg to Lubeck has been done but the S-Bahn is popular.

Also Garmisch Partinkirchen from Munich.

At this stage I think we can rule out steam routes for 6 months. I might be wrong and the popularity might drive more releases, but I think it isn't as popular as passenger routes.

I'd love Western Lines of Scotland and West Coast Main Line over Shap. They would be amazing in TSW3!!!

 

Most of these "rumours" or "top of the list" ones you have mentioned are probably only top of your list. Other than that, you've just thrown random names of places around.

 

I doubt any route extensions are on the cards for the next 6 months at least.

West Coast Main Line or ECML or GEML are sorely needing to be represented.

The Birmingham commuter route has been very well received and that just might steer the development of routes north of London that are main lines.

And then private developers are jumping on board fast now and it seems a Leicester route is in development. Just Trains is doing something.

I think the Chicago or Milwaukee area might have some possible commuter opportunities....

To be honest the passenger stream in the US has been absolutely thrashed.

With some more freight routes it will bring over the hood from TSC I guess.

Marias Pass, Stevens Pass, Donner Pass and Canadian Mountain Passes are all yet to come.

But I want to see an Illinois route like Chicago to Byron (106 miles) where commuter trains can run to Big Timber near Elgin. That would be suitable indeed!! Half the route would be big long freight trains and the other half a commuter route.

As Cajon Pass was just released I doubt we will see the Mojave to Flagstaff section just yet. But maybe 2025 or even earlier.

It is pure speculation at this stage.

 

Is the DB BR 420 still a thing? I'd love to see that.

 

SD40Australia, not sure where you heard a rumour, but a Sydney CityRail route would be absolutely amazing. Hornby via Sydney Central to Katoomba would be fantastic but any Sydney route I’d really love but cannot ever see it happening.

Perhaps some software company in Australia will produce a game built around Australian routes, there some awesome routes down under.

 

Especially if it was another extension to SEHS. I know I bang on about it but we do need some routes in the old Eastern Region of BR though give me an NTP extension and I would be hooked...

 

I think there's a fair few routes that could do with extensions - NTP, Tees Valley and West Cornwall come to mind - but I think it's better to explore new routes.

I don't see extensions, in the TSC sense, happening at all. DTG and Skyhook have both said it's incredibly hard to do them, and it's easier to just start from scratch - in other words, a separate DLC that doesn't connect.

Manchester - Liverpool in NTP's era, for example, would be good, but probably it's own route.

Anyway, where was I? Ah, yes. A lot of good candidates for extensions, a hell of a lot more for new routes.

(If I'm totally honest, I think the rising calls for extensions may be a way of Southeastern / Southern fans to not have their suggestions shot down as "yet another southeast 3rd rail route" - a bit into conspiracy theory territory there, but it makes total sense. They kept crying about it.)

 

Yes it is but it's still a long way off. It's in planning which is 3-9 months away according to the roadmap. Just a reminder that tsg also does second party content with dtg.

 

Issue with doing chicago is no license. I don't know what exactly runs in chicago but for example metra in tsc is unbranded and they don't want their license in game so it's very unlikely to come.

 

As much as I would love an Australian route, I can't see DTG investing all that time into doing the research and getting sounds etc. The only real hope is if an Aussie dev made it.

 

I would rather they spent time and effort on trains that fill out or complete current content rather than new routes if we are talking about new dlc.

If we’re not focusing on dlc then optimisation (though dull and not sexy) needs to be highest priority

 

Given the low level of Aussie content for TSC, seems unlikely. The majority of Australian train sim effort seems to be in Trainz and formerly for MSTS (Coals To Newcastle was a masterpiece).

 

That's because Auran/N3V games is Australian so they have access to the railways there.

 

It's in production TSG is also working on the 232 so it may take some time

 

But DTG made it without the license (so no logo, brand and name etc) in TSC.....

So as I said, passenger routes have been absolutely thrashed in Train Sim World.

If BNSF or CP allow use of their license to Byron from Chicago. then like the TSC iteration, it can be done.

I love the Hartford Springfield 1950s route in TSC...

But there is the New Jersey route too from Trenton.

Anything is possible.

 

What I want: GWE 125 livery editor

What we'll probably get: It's still in testing and try to get it out soon, rinse and repeat for next Roadmap.

I'd also like to see the DSD fixed for the 313, also the Passenger loading system on London Commuter fixed so you don't drive empty trains after leaving Gatwick Airport.

 

However, the Metra logo was quickly restored by modders in The Racetrack.
That would be difficult, though not impossible, in TSW.

 

i just want an GG1 to NYT lol it would be fun to drive and hear that boat sounding horn

 

Dovetail have said time and time again that they will not make debranded content in TSW.

 

I'd personally like to see some innovation this year. With the recent releases it just feels a bit stale watching post after post of negative feedback and awaiting patches.

Other than TOD4 and rush hour passengers that don't get used all the time what's new? Big hype builders rather than odds and sods.

Id like to see route extensions or modular routes now or using the most requested routes list to do ECML

 

I really would like to be looking forward to new content etc, but the only thing i care right now are the updates for all the rushed out content past few months.

Just before had a run from koblenz to mainz, and got annoyed by the all broken pzb paths showing green aspects an leading you with 100 into a 40kmh change over. This after release "fire extinguish communication" from the devs is just pathetic, get your work done in the first place.

Nothing more to add.

 

I’m for one very excited to hear about the NYT timetable. Once this is done the potential for the future US passenger route like redoing the LIRR route to include the new Grand Cental Madison Avenue. Or even the New Haven line. Imagine being able to build a route that would have mostly all required locos. No more empty stations or sidings…….would it that be something…..

 

While route updates are definitely important, they need to make a big dive into the core again. So many core issues, many of which have only been made worse by TSW3. And these issues plague all routes in the game - rigid dispatcher, performance, horrible lighting, braindead passengers, etc. Without serious work on your side, you can't escape the bleached look of the route, absolutely empty rush hour/heritage trains, stutters, and problems nobody seems to be working on (I haven't heard anyone acknowledging the lighting problems created by TSW3). It is important to fix route-specific bugs (which should not be so common in the first place), but the whole core needs a serious wake-up call, and it needs it now.

So yeah, on Tuesday, I would really love to hear that in summer, a big overhaul is coming, and it won't be locked behind another paywall.

 

NYT is a 85% sale buy from me, not gonna spend any money on that.

 

It's a 3rd party, not dtg. Unbranded content hasn't gone well in tsw. Well there's only one. Island line 2022 was met with lots of criticism for not using the swr livery. Rivet and dtg have been in talks since that time but still not success. Dtg will never make unbranded content.

 

I've learnt never to talk in definitives when it comes to DTG, but yeah highly unlikely we'll see an unbranded route from them in TSW.

 

I'm thinking they'll announce some fixes (e.g., MML) and a time frame. As to new content, well it's anyone's guess really, although DTG seem to be fixated on small segments of routes. So, new content will likely be a really short chunk of a route (2-15 miles), maybe some DLC rolling stock/locomotive(s). Oh, and likely announce TSW 3.9...

 

I think we have to be honest with ourselves with the fact TSW 4 will never be announced: it will be leaked, probably by JD!

 

I predict this is probably going to be a much more solid release as they have already been at work a few months ago I would say. A high potential introducing a new country perhaps Japan coming from the third-party developers union workshop. I just trains first route announcement as they get closer on the UK project .Definitely the release of the new New Jersey transit timetable Dovetail UK route releasing worth the class 700 and being a few months away from summer, higher possibility for the 4 br db 420 to finally be released for German Content and of course a route featuring the 420 would be my easy guess. New features I want to hope for may be a guard mode?
i'm definitely assuming with the purchase of dovetail by focus entertainment at some point a new French route, but don't know if that would be ready for his summer release so I would expect something next year for that.

 

Hopefully they will talk about the patches for MML, Bremen,niddertalbahn,linke rheinstrecke, and NYT. I know they are working on the timetable for NYT but not sure if they are working on all the other issues like,pantographs on AI trains,lights on the interior being off on all trains,no drivers shown on any AI trains,doors staying open on AI trains,no marker lights/headlights on AI trains,PIS,signaling and safety system not working as they should.There’re are other issues I failed to mentioned,would hope is something that is being looked at.

 

The 420 is a while off since it is in planning and tsg will work as second party which means the german loco and the summer German route if they go with the traditional big 3 release will likely use his expertise. That means the 420 would be pushed back. The next upcoming releases would be those in the in development section of the roadmap.

 

I would like to see a bit of the Glossop Line in this roadmap, and hopefully some form of confirmation as to what we'll be getting from Just Trains. It, if previous timings remain true, can't be far off the scenery's completion.

 

Certainly Glossop will be confirmed maybe just to soon for JTs route announcement.

 

Yes if I put my serious/realistic head on a further update on either the route or traction included in the JT dlc is what I would like, seeing as realese could be within the next couple of months.

 

the 420 is being worked on by Mike so that's a higher probability being that all other teams are working on the German content plus new hires, focusing on routes and locos

 

Oooh I can't wait to see why they are all delayed.